September 13th, 2014
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Oncoming Storm 2
September 14th, 2014 - 2:03amThe Doctor asked her to be his,”carer”. Clara seems
to be more like his caregiver. It was Clara under
the bed. Using the Tardis to manipulate the Doctor
and Danny Pink through their pasts really seems
out of bounds. Who is the Time Lord Clara or the
Doctor?
DOCTOR WHO ONE
September 14th, 2014 - 7:39amThe Doctor.
sweetie
September 14th, 2014 - 8:43pmWe don’t know Clara is so mixed up in all the doctors timelines perhaps things are swopping
Jordan Gifford
September 14th, 2014 - 1:29amI thought it was a really good episode and showed a lot of Peter Capaldi’s potential as the doctor.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 3:23pmI agree
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
September 14th, 2014 - 12:50amMeh. Overral dissapointed
It started well the storyline was good, it did not escalate or develop in any way, and went off into the tangent of the barn.
Some good moments with the Doctor and Clara, but when it got climactic it dropped again, and because there was no conclusion in the slightest at all, it was a waste of an episode.
Still better than last week though, and I did like the Doc and Clara in this. The whole Orson thing could’ve been interesting, if we had a definitive answer.
No beginning middle end in terms of the plot, with Midnight and the God Complex (as some are comparing this to) there was.
Series so far is a mixed bag, one of the first that hasn’t been two amazing eps in a row, unlike series 5
DB: 7/10
ITD: 9/10
ROS: 0/10
L: 5/10
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 3:40pmI liked it
sweetie
September 14th, 2014 - 8:46pmIt was very telling the doctor has fears that’s unheard ofas for dDan and Clara in one reality they obviously get together and have kids but as we know the future can change.
Doctor Stu
September 14th, 2014 - 12:46amHaven’t seen the episode yet but was it just a flash back to the war doctor or was it a new scene with the war doctor ?
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 6:43amJust a flashback from a scene in Day of the Doctor
wizard
September 13th, 2014 - 11:01pmive been watching dr who since it started in 1963
peter capaldi is good ..a dark tom baker ..but the stories arnt that good i lost the plot on listen.. ..plenty drama but short on action..when has the doctor needed to look for problems .. he usually sorts them after being dropped into the middle of a situation.. bring russell t davies back..
i dont like the opening credits/graphics either maybe their trying to bring it up to date but it doesnt work for me id rather have the old ones
Sid Rat
September 13th, 2014 - 11:21pmI agree with you wizard (except for the fact that I don’t think Peter Capaldi is good). Everything else is spot on. Would love to see Russell T back. S Moffat can write great stories, we know that…’Blink’, ‘Silence In The Library’, etc, but hasn’t done since ‘The Snowmen’ in 2012. Spread too thinly now, too many irons. If somebody else was the showrunner, Moff could, I’m sure write one or two great episodes per series.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 10:00amRTD turned DW into a soap opera….he did well bringing the show back but he wrote some of the worst stories in the shows history. Capadi is proving to be great but too early to judge….it took me until half way through series 3 to accept David Tennant….who is still my least favourite Doctor since the show restarted.
Andrew
September 13th, 2014 - 10:32pmI have been derogatory about the series so far, but ‘Listen’ was very good. Good rapport between The Doctor and Clara, but more importantly it used the steely, somewhat unfriendly-like attitude the new Doctor has to good effect.
Very pleased, I was getting worried
Sid Rat
September 13th, 2014 - 10:14pmDidn’t like that I’m afraid. Looking forward to a regeneration (a better one than last time!!)
sweetie
September 14th, 2014 - 8:50pmTechnically there shouldn’t be anymore unless they useriver song giving him all hers so that he will be able to a few more times
WFK DVD Collector 14
September 13th, 2014 - 10:13pmOk. That was one of the biggest dissapointments of series 8 yet. It started so well, and just seemed to fall apart with the whole ‘Orson Pink’ sub plot. Also, why was Orson wearing the Doctor’s Santry Base 6 space suit? He wouldn’t have gotten it unless he was a member of the crew on SB6. (Which is very unlikely). He’s even wearing it in the scenes that take place before he meets the Doctor. (On the TARDIS scanner). And finally, I didn’t like the scenes with the Doctor as a child. Yes, I know it’s ment to link in with some of the events in “Day of the Doctor”, but I wish that Moffat would stop showing us so much of the Doctor’s past. It’s almost becoming a joke.
So in conclusion, once again an episode that I thought would be an instant classic, is dissapointed due to Steven Moffat’s annoying (and in my eyes stupid) way of telling a Doctor Who story.
Radburn
September 13th, 2014 - 11:22pmTotally agree! Started out really creepy & then slid slowly down the pan again as it ran out of steam. More gobblydegook from Moffat…
the astronaut of death
September 14th, 2014 - 11:18amI think you mean
more good stories from moffat
Big D
September 14th, 2014 - 11:28amYep. Agreed. I know its only four episodes in but I am starting to get a little worried.
I really like the potential of Capaldis Doctor but he really does need better stories and better scripts. (Perhaps though he could slow down his speech a little as sometimes its a little difficult to get what hes saying – maybe a comment on me rather than him?).
Im tending to think that SM is spreading himself too thin and cant now deliver the goods to the standard that we know he is capable of.
100,000BC
September 14th, 2014 - 12:10pmThe SB6 costume could be another MOFFAT THING – remember that if Orson is a descendent of Clara then she may have kept the spacesuit and passed it down the family like the toy soldier.
WFK DVD Collector 14
September 14th, 2014 - 2:37pmIt sounds silly, but the SB6 Space suit thing is really bothering me… It just feels so pointless and forced. I’m starting to think that Moffat has used up all of his good ideas, and is now just scrapping the bottom of the barel… Hoping that the space suit thing is going to be explained at the end of the series!
Also, I think it’s worth mentioning, there were no mentions to the whole “promised land” sub plot in this episode…
100,000BC
September 13th, 2014 - 10:03pmTwo things:
The Doctor was LYING about the TARDIS recharge so that he could look at the whatever-it-was.
The mysterious hidden enemy is ONE OF THOSE MOFFAT THINGS that will PROBABLY BE EXPLAINED IN A SERIES FINALE AT SOME POINT.
The Moffat Paradox
September 13th, 2014 - 9:46pmThouqht it was better than Robot Of Sherwood so for that reason will watch again.
And now if you’ll excuse me I wont be conmmenting here again until after the Scottish Independence Referendum and resolution of the REAL crisis for us Scottish viewers it presents:potential break up of the BBC and risk of LOSING DOCTOR WHO!!!
The Dark Doctor (Formally Eternal Dalek)
September 13th, 2014 - 10:12pmInstead of ‘Save the Daleks!’ it will be ‘Save Doctor Who!’
booboo
September 13th, 2014 - 10:14pmi’m sure you will still get it – but with an add break every 10 minuets
Andrew
September 13th, 2014 - 10:38pmBBC Scotland will still ‘buy’ Dr Who. The only difference will be administrative.
Presently it’s likely to be ‘sold’ by BBC England and Wales using internal transfer pricing (ie no real money changes hands). If Scotland splits then it’ll simply be bought by BBC Scotland, invoices will be raised and cash will change hands.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 10:03amThere won’t be a BBC Scotland….IF the vote goes that way.
cyberman2
September 14th, 2014 - 3:11pmThere is a bbc america and that aint in the uk
booboo
September 14th, 2014 - 3:23pmdont they have adverts?
Exterminator
September 13th, 2014 - 9:38pmGreat episode, I loved seeing the war doctor again and now we know why he went to that barn with the moment device.
I didn’t like the way the Dr shouted at Clara to get into the Tardis even if he was trying to protect her, I think Capaldi will scare more children than the monsters and aliens in the show.
To work out what was under the blanket and outside the spaceship banging on the door, you have to think like Moffat. He absolutely loves writing story arcs and when all is eventually revealed it all ties in. My guess is it’ll turn out to be Missy.
Exterminator
September 13th, 2014 - 9:42pmClara said the toy soldier with no gun was the boss then she left it with the child in the barn. Maybe that’s why the Dr doesn’t like guns.
Jamie
September 13th, 2014 - 9:30pmStunning! What an amazing episode.
mat518
September 13th, 2014 - 9:26pmClearly social commentary on fear, soldiers and war, and how we handle fear. Fear is a weapon more powerful than war as fear incapacitates and stops “thinking” Fear is also used by power brokers that want control. Good advice on how not to let fear dominate our reactions.
Good episode as it shows Clara’s process throughout his time line, could it be that clara is also a forgotten timelord? If not from Galifrey then she qualifies simply by being the impossible girl. (impossible human maybe?).
No other companion has such an impact on moulding the doctor.
Interesting to see where it leads and how it fits her exit from the show at the xmas special.
mat518
September 13th, 2014 - 9:40pmAlso, it was interesting to see that the tardis is part machine part organic, part celestrial light.
sweetie
September 14th, 2014 - 8:55pmPerhaps Clara is Missy from the future as she can time travel and is always on the doctors time line even in death
The Surgeon
September 13th, 2014 - 9:10pmIt should say enough that my favourite episode of the series is still Deep Breath.
This series is infuriating me! Deep Breath was OK, Into the Dalek was slightly worse, Robot of Sherwood was terrible and this was just … irritating Moffat!
This is clearly going to be an accompaniment to Dark Water, as Let’s Kill Hitler was to The Wedding of River Song. It was another episode where Clara was far to important, having the speech at the end, and just … annoying.
The Surgeon
September 13th, 2014 - 9:13pmHowever, my theory about Missy being the Master was just given a huge boost.
I don’t think it was the Doctor under the cover at the end. I think it was the Master. Does anyone remember in Utopia and The End of Time, the Master’s catchphrase was pretty much “Listen” to the Doctor, because only the Master could hear the Drums?
Anonymous
September 13th, 2014 - 9:20pmOk, if the Master was Missy, why would he call the Doctor his boyfriend??? :S Come on! You cannot seriously think like that, anyway, shes a new character who I think could be a Time Lady and also help the Doctor find Gallifrey! 😀
Anonymous
September 13th, 2014 - 10:07pmIt’s possible y’know… In Scream of the Shalka, the Doctor creates an android Master. In the Time of the Doctor, he comments about inventing an android boyfriend…
Big D
September 14th, 2014 - 11:39amAgree surgeon. Trouble is I wasnt that keen on Deep Breath either. I like Capaldi. I dont like the stories and scripts he is being given.
Interesting your take on the Master. I too wondered that. Particularly after being given ‘the Boss’ soldier.
Also Anonymous I wouldnt have a problem thinking that he would call the Doctor his boyfriend. If the Master did infact regenerate into a woman (or if the Masters essence had found its way into female form – remember it was a womans hand who picked up his ring) then it would be just his/her sense of humour to do just that.
The Surgeon
September 14th, 2014 - 12:06pmWell, Simm was insane. It seems logical.
Handles
September 14th, 2014 - 4:32pmI was wondering if anyone else thinks that Missy might be the “I want to Kill the Doctor side of River Song” that she somehow separated from herself and it became its own entity? She refers to the Doctor as her Boyfriend and can manipulate his timeline. They basically made 2 River Songs when they kidnapped her as a baby and mentally trained her to be an assassin that can be triggered. Maybe she was able to cut that part of herself out and it became corporeal.
DoctorArkham
September 13th, 2014 - 9:10pmSuch good build up to have it fall apart. Too many plotholes, too much Clara x Danny, and just another failure by the king of confusion, Steven Moffat.
Anonymous
September 13th, 2014 - 10:00pmAt least I’m not the only person who was dissapointed by this episode!
THEMANINBLACK72
September 14th, 2014 - 10:17pmI too think it was the master under the cover
And don’t think literally, regarding boyfriend as as young boys the master and the doctor were childhood friends but one was turned to the darker side
It could still fit
THEMANINBLACK72
September 14th, 2014 - 11:18pmBut thinking back it’s lungbarrow , in the barn where he stayed to hide his crying
So scratch that it’s the doctor
KORSAIR
September 13th, 2014 - 9:04pmI’ve tried to comment 3 times but none have appeared.
booboo
September 13th, 2014 - 9:06pm?
cant see anything not getting through
KORSAIR
September 13th, 2014 - 10:19pmFault must be at my end, anyway this episode was brilliant.
KORSAIR
September 13th, 2014 - 10:24pmFault must be at my end but anyway tonight’s episode was brilliant.
Rusty The Dalek
September 13th, 2014 - 8:57pmOne thing I noticed, Clara is now even more important in The Doctors’ life!
She has now:
Saved him across his lives
Got him his new Regenerations
Told him what TARDIS to take
Helped him save Gallifrey
AND
Calmed him as a child, and told him not to be afraid of being afraid
So she’s basically nearly as equal in importance to The Doctor as The TARDIS!
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
September 14th, 2014 - 12:45amexactly what i said last week! It’s very true
Dalek Supreme
September 13th, 2014 - 8:57pm!! SPOILER WARNIN’ !! (I guess?)
Damn, that was a pretty great episode!
I has hoping ‘The God Complex’ but better, and I was not disappointed. Turned out more like ‘The God Complex’ and ‘Midnight’ had a baby, and 1 kinda alright, and 1 quite good and unique, I think is the best episode of series 8 so far.
The best aspects of ‘Midnight’ have been preserved: the Mystery, the atmosphere. The opening scene was really cool, and the scene in the Children’s home was brilliant, one of the best scenes in modern Who.
Unfortunately, it kind of falls apart after 15~20 minutes. Clara’s and Danny’s date (dates?) felt really crowbarred in, and so did Orson’s.
Oh, and the bit when he said ‘it needs to recharge’, my brain SCREAMED out ‘*VWOOP* IT’S A PLOT DEVICE! *VWOOP*’. The generally good pace plummeted after then, and just couldn’t bring it back afterwards.
I just wish they had preserved ‘Midnight’s mystery through the whole thing, because the ending was just trying to nicey-fy Capaldi, which is pointless because we were promised a darker doctor.
But hey, the first half was pretty damn great, but slips up on itself for the second half. A great 20 minutes, but not a great episode. 8/10
Btw, next week looks kind of stupid, but fun! Looking forward to that one.
Doctor 13th
September 13th, 2014 - 9:07pmYES! It was like Midnight and The God Complex!
Doctor 13th
September 13th, 2014 - 8:55pmWhat did everyone think was outside and under the duvet?
booboo
September 13th, 2014 - 8:56pmthey thing the Doctor failed to find – if it exists that is
Doctor 13th
September 13th, 2014 - 9:05pmUnless outside was Gallifrey?
Jammy2305
September 13th, 2014 - 9:40pm^^ That comment!!
sweetie
September 14th, 2014 - 9:03pmI think it was the doctors fear
the astronaut of death
September 13th, 2014 - 8:54pmI think the only reason they were able to get to gallifrey
was because they used the telepathic thing
Doctor 13th
September 13th, 2014 - 8:56pmBut Gallifrey is in a pocket universe where no one can to. I think that was the controversial part.
Anonymous
September 13th, 2014 - 9:04pmBut Gallifrey is in the “future” in a pocket universe so how is that the controversial part?
Noel Dandes
September 14th, 2014 - 3:39pmOkay… Setting aside the fact that Gallifrey is missing and time locked, how could Clara go back to the childhood of 1 when 10 told Sarah Jane that he, as 4, was called back home and humans weren’t allowed?
Rusty The Dalek
September 13th, 2014 - 8:51pmGreat ep!
Very interesting change in format!
A thought, if there were creatures, could they be a relative of the Midnight creature?
A few things were rather similar!
And some nice hints at The Doctors’ past…
Imlookingforthedoctor
September 13th, 2014 - 8:47pmWell I didn’t really feel much for the story, not as interesting as previous episodes very bland, same with the date with Danny pink and Clara very pointless and should of left when Clara went home. But apart form that Capaldi’s, Jenna’s and Anderson’s performance was brilliant As always. But I loved it for the creep factor and the Barn scene! Oh my god the barn scene was phenomenal! Really unexpected but brilliant without a doubt, the flashback with the War Doctor was just spectacular it really gave a classic vibe to the scene!
Well done Moffat!
Imlookingforthedoctor
September 13th, 2014 - 8:59pmAdd..
In my opinion I recon they should have got to Gallifrey in a different format because I found the plot confusing, boring and not even that creepy and what was the Creature? Alien? child? under the duvet? Yes maybe we may see in a up coming episode, Who knows?
AlphaOmega
September 13th, 2014 - 8:46pmI loved it! Very psychological! Kinda gives you the sense of the Doctor’s paranoia…
And the thing under the covers…..
– A ‘Hiding alien’?
– Another Kid?
At the moment, I really don’t care. Let the mystery stay there….
KORSAIR
September 13th, 2014 - 8:45pmI think I’ll be watching that again before bedtime.
the astronaut of death
September 13th, 2014 - 8:45pmvashna Nerada perhaps?
Anonymous
September 13th, 2014 - 8:44pmWould you say the Child who was the Doctor in the barn the younger version of The First Doctor?
the astronaut of death
September 13th, 2014 - 8:46pmyes
DuckandGrouse
September 14th, 2014 - 7:50amOr another of Steven Moffat’s “new” Doctor’s 😉
The Temporal Jelly Baby
September 13th, 2014 - 8:42pmThe answer to lots of questions about the thing under the bed: you’re supposed to decide! It’s either simply fear or some sort of species which is exceptionally good at hiding. There isn’t a definite answer – why are so many people not getting this? 😀
the astronaut of death
September 13th, 2014 - 8:42pmI have a question ?
so was the doctor a orphan?
Unlimited Rice Pudding!
September 13th, 2014 - 9:00pmNo but he would of gone to the Acadamy to become a Time Lord 😀
Jammy2305
September 13th, 2014 - 9:45pmI place it as him being at x location after the age of 8, when he saw the untempered schizm (“The Sound of Drums”)because he ran after seeing it. He’s there crying and afraid from what he witnessed. At a point after this he returns to the academy to continue (possibly willed on by Clara’s speech)
Doctor 13th
September 13th, 2014 - 8:42pmNot a lot actually happened but with a couple of questions, it was good. 7/10. But, how did they get to Gallifrey? What did the Doctor find outside? And who was under the bed? Me thinks a child to that one as it look human when he (it?) removed the duvet.
The Temporal Jelly Baby
September 13th, 2014 - 8:51pmFirst question:
Well…good question. Maybe it’s proof that Gallifrey falls no more!
Second and third questions:
That’s for you to decide. 😀
the astronaut of death
September 13th, 2014 - 8:41pmwhat if under the sheet
was the
vashna Nerada