July 1st, 2017
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What did You Think of The Doctor Falls?
Now that the Final episode of series 10 has been aired what did you think? Was it everything you had hoped for or not what you expected.
The Mondasian Cybermen are on the rise. It’s time for the Doctor’s final battle…
The Doctor is played by Peter Capaldi, Bill by Pearl Mackie and Nardole by Matt Lucas. Michelle Gomez guest stars as Missy and John Simm stars as the Master.
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Peter Capaldi returns as Doctor Who for twelve thrilling adventures. He is joined by new companion, Bill (played by Pearl Mackie), along with returning loveable alien, Nardole (played by Matt Lucas).
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Spamella
July 1st, 2017 - 10:12pmI thought that this finale episode was excellent, there was so much going on, it was sad in one way to see that Bill had died but good in another way knowing that Heather will look after her in the next life. The Master and Missy was on top form in being very devious and only they will kill each other by their own way. I cannot wait until the christmas special to see how it will pan out and who the next doctor will be.
Run you clever boy
July 1st, 2017 - 10:05pmBRILLIANT EPISODE, THEY HAVE LEFT THE DOOR OPEN FOR BILL HEATHER CAN RESTORE HER AND BILL TOLD HER GET ME HOME IN TIME FOR TEA AND PEARL MACKIE HAS NOT CONFIRMED ANYTHING SO SHE COULD BE IN NEXT SERIES.
The Outcast
July 2nd, 2017 - 3:33amI don’t think she will. I reckon the BBC will leave Chibnall a fresh state.
Tim M
July 2nd, 2017 - 7:49amBill and Heather seeing the universe seemed like a rehash of ‘Me’ and Clara going around the universe in the series 9 finale. I was certainly feeling a bit of deja vu whilst watching Bill leave.
When The Doctor Was Me
July 1st, 2017 - 9:38pmI really loved this two parter. Bills end is sad but kind of a happy sad. Sad shes gone as she was brilliant. But happy that her soul has lived on.
The cybermen were good if a little underused but still a threat. Just wish they didn’t fly!!!
Missy and The Master were great together, it seems fitting that they ultimately end each others lives. In essense a weird and twisted suicide.
Capaldi just mastered this episode. I felt choked by his words and pain.
Nardole seems to have a fitting end to a harmless character.
Bradleys return was done brilliantly! Though i predicted a continuation of the scene last week as this. I was happy to see it actually happen!
One thing thats bugging me is people online keep saying when the doctor looked as his hand following a quick burst of regeneration energy it was a womans hand. I failed to see this? Did it actually happen?
Anonymous
July 2nd, 2017 - 10:40amNo, it didn’t. They’re just seeing what they want to see.
Mr. J
July 1st, 2017 - 9:20pmThat was an incredibly strong piece of television! Sure, not perfect, but very impressive!! I did find parts of it a bit…. quiet, but overall I was actually hooked and totally invested!! Would have liked a bit more of the city in chaos scenes at the beginning,as I feared the Master/Missy evil teamup ended fairly quickly but actually took a nice turn in the end!! Strong end to a strong series! And the ending… Ooooh!! Christmas!
Techruyc
July 1st, 2017 - 9:14pmThought it was ok, not brilliant. A typical finale to multi-part stories of recent years, flat. Best thing about it finally the end of the Moffat era, shudder! I’m surprised a dalek wasnt just written in for no other reason than to be blown up as a kind of ‘mof last request’ but I guess enough damage was done to the daleks in season 9 with the ‘exterminate me’ dalek and whatever the twist was when they say exterminate in that adventure I cant even be bothered to remember the name of because it was that terrible.
Tim M
July 1st, 2017 - 9:06pmSo here is my marks out of ten for each episode of series 10.
The Pilot: 7/10
Smile: 9/10
Thin Ice: 7/10
Knock Knock: 9/10
Oxygen: 10/10
Extremis: 9/10
The Pyramid at the End of the World: 7/10
The Lie of the Land: 6/10
Empress of Mars: 9/10
The Eaters of Light: 5/10
World Enough and Time: 10/10
The Doctor Falls: 8/10
Dr RevWho
July 1st, 2017 - 9:10pmNice rankings. Here’s mine:
‘The Pilot’ – 7/10
‘Smile’ – 8/10
‘Thin Ice’ – 8/10
‘Knock Knock’ – 7/10
‘Oxygen’ – 9/10
‘Extremis’ – 4/10
‘The Pyramid at the End of the World’ – 9/10
‘The Lie of the Land’ – 5/10
‘Empress of Mars’ – 7/10
‘The Eaters of Light’ – 6/10
‘World Enough and Time’/’The Doctor Falls’ – 10/10
Foam
July 1st, 2017 - 9:53pmThe Pilot 6/10.
Smile 8/10.
Thin Ice 8/10.
Knock Knock 4.5/10.
Oxygen 7.5/10.
Extremis 6/10.
The Pyramid at the End of the World 7/10.
The Lie of the Land 4/10.
Empress of Mars 8.5/10.
The Eaters of Light 5/10.
World Enough and Time 9.5/10.
The Doctor Falls 0/10.
DannyTheNerd
July 1st, 2017 - 9:02pmWell that was extremely disapointing. Never trust Moffat to make a great finale.
Tim M
July 1st, 2017 - 9:22pmWhy bother to bring back the Cybermen, if they are easily defeated or conveniently blown to bits! I was greatly impressed by the threat the Cybermen posed in ‘World Enough and Time’. Only to then be too easily wiped out in ‘The Doctor Falls’. Just when I thought they got the Cybermen right, they go back to being cannon fodder. What a waste.
anon
July 1st, 2017 - 9:49pmAgree completely
1994
July 1st, 2017 - 8:50pmParts of it were good but a lot of it…wasn’t.
Tim M
July 1st, 2017 - 9:31pmGreat pace and momentum in ‘World Enough and Time’. Uneven pace and momentum in ‘The Doctor Falls’. Makes for a game of two very different halves. I seriously couldn’t believe in that countryside being inside that spaceship. That created a big imbalance and different tone and feel set in ‘World Enough and Time’.
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:25pm1994 you are not wrong, well said.
Jordan Scott
July 1st, 2017 - 8:38pmI’m Truly speechless after tonight’s episode, so many amazing moments. Never felt so sad and ecstatic simultaneously before… Aaaahhhhh!
The Moffat Paradox
July 1st, 2017 - 8:35pmI personally right now am VERY ANGRY with the BBC as they ruined watching the last 3 minutes On Freeview HD if it wasn’t local to my transmitter and I have just watched and listened to what I should have heard on the transmission with the IPlayer instead of an incensing crackling and loss of programme sound.
Fanfaring an event TV episode and they CANT even transmit it without any technical incident! There is no problem with the other HD channels and we receive I have had my suspicions about those responsible for BBC One HD on Freeview if its not affecting all platforms at least a couple of occasions before lately.UNBELIEVABLE!!
getty29
July 1st, 2017 - 9:14pmIt wasn’t just you, we had it as well on Virgin up here just outside Glasgow. I thought it was my surround sound set up doing it as I have had some issues with it recently, but tested on TV speakers and got exactly the same. Was absolutely fuming.
Anonymous
July 1st, 2017 - 9:41pmAnd I see people have taken to Twitter about it but don’t know if it was confined to HD only or BBC One Scotland.generally or BBC One everywhere,Had a similar experience when watching Graham Norton in HD two weeks ago.NOW the’ve got the IRE of people watching Doctor Who.
Ollie
July 1st, 2017 - 8:34pmI see some of the Moffat whingers are out in full force again!
You know, to be perfectly honest, since Moffat has been show runner, I haven’t been 100% sold on his story ideas or direction. There are some stories that I haven’t enjoyed, but there are some that I’ve thought were absolutely brilliant. Sometimes Moffat has weaved pitch-perfect narratives; on other occasions, he’s gone for a bit of a ‘copout’ ending to keep the kids happy. Like I said, being honest, I’ve never been 100% sold.
But seriously… C’mon! That season finale was one of his best and there was very little that was wrong with it!
I’m reading silly comments about David Bradley doing poor Bill Hartnell impressions; Mondasian Cybermen can’t fly; the Master killed himself; Capaldi didn’t get the send-off he deserved… Etc. Etc. One person was moaning that the ending got spoilt months ago… Blame the Mirror for that one, pal; not Moffat!
WEAT and TDF was a superb finale. The narrative was straight forward; Capaldi was represented as the brave hero; the Cyberman fight sequences were very impressive visually; Mackie’s performance was stunning. For me, it was near perfect. I completely understand that you’re never going to please everybody; I admitted as much at the beginning of this post. But to consistently bombard every contribution that he makes to Doctor Who smacks of disrespect!
I believe he has made a phenomenal contribution to the legacy of our favourite TV show since he became show runner and he fully deserves our admiration and respect.
Anonymous
July 1st, 2017 - 8:46pmYes so agree! It was my fav moffet finale and fav 12th dr episode!
anon
July 1st, 2017 - 9:47pmOllie, your disrespectful by not letting others have their own opinions.
Ollie
July 1st, 2017 - 10:09pmThere’s a difference between having a subjective opinion that can be backed up by evidence and relentless whining! I feel my opinions are balanced and fair. There’s been enough good moments in Doctor Who in the last seven years to justify the show’s success. The good outweighs the bad massively. If Steven Moffat was so bad a show runner, you and the others would have switched off long ago during Matt Smith’s era! Instead, you carry on watching and criticise with a view to finding faults with everything he’s done. It’s completely unjustified.
Lorraine Sheridan
July 1st, 2017 - 10:20pmVery fair and concise response Ollie. I agree with the points you have made. In many ways Moffat has taken the show to a different more mature level. I sometimes wonder just what those who are complaining expect. However these forums are here so that all may contribute their views which is how it should be I suppose.
Ollie
July 1st, 2017 - 10:34pmCheers Lorraine. In no way am I saying that fans shouldn’t have their say on these forums; I’ve had mine. I just believe some comments posted are completely unjustified.
Sid Rat
July 2nd, 2017 - 10:04amI agree Ollie, when Moffat became show runner he lost his touch, however these were 2 great episodes and over Moffat’s whole DW career he has brought us some great storylines.
Sor Vad
July 2nd, 2017 - 5:54pmMoffat is really good at writing single or two parters such as Blink and The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. And the characters he created like Clara Oswald, River Song and Missy were great to watch and it was sad to see Bill leave, but thats what the show is about. Change.
Mick181
July 3rd, 2017 - 2:52amAll you need to do to get an idea of what hardcore fans think of this season is have a look at the polls above and they generally run at about 80/20 positive.
Nigel M
July 1st, 2017 - 8:23pmNot as good as last week but not as bad as I thought it might turn out. If I were to be picky I’d ask how both The Doctor and Bill were conveniently the only survivors when the entire level was blown to pieces. The Master has a habit of returning from certain death so I doubt we’ve seen the last of him/her.
Tim M
July 1st, 2017 - 8:14pmNot the great finale it could and should have been. Cybermen again largely wasted. Missy and the Master worked well together. Bill’s leaving scene I’m not sure I liked or not…still undecided on that one, plus I found most of the village folk back story dull and tedious. The biggest highlight was David Bradley as the 1st Doctor. Overall well acted and certainly watchable story. 8/10 But typical Moffat…First episode very good, second episode uneven. The trouble is ‘World Enough and Time’ was so good it couldn’t be improved on. Moffat puts too many good eggs in the basket too soon. He builds up momentum so much that whatever follows never fulfils it’s full potential. He was guilty of doing the same the end of series 9. Overall this finale gets a 9/10. But as usual the first part is the better of the two. Wrong way round Moffat.
r1ch1e
July 1st, 2017 - 8:14pmI wish it could be Christmas everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Living Shadow
July 1st, 2017 - 8:12pmWow! I enjoyed that. I thought I’d naturally be a little underwhelmed after how good last week’s episode was (and let’s face it, nearly all set-up episodes are better than their follow-up episodes..), but I still had a great time watching this one!
I felt that the townspeople, Nardole, and Cyberman Bill being isolated, as well as the Cyberman attacks I thought that was all well handled.
I also liked how the Master was used fairly sparingly, but he was used well: Quality, not Quantity. Missy killing the Master, who then ends up killing her, well himself, was quite fun to watch, in a weird kind of way… Oh and some stunning visual and soundtrack choices!
Wasn’t too keen on the Doctor refusing to change. It annoyed me when Ten didn’t want to go, it annoys me that Twelve doesn’t want to go. At least it’s going to be a plot-point though, and Twelve will perhaps be a little more prepared and dignified when he’s actually regenerating.
Although I liked Bill’s end relating to ‘The Pilot’, I’m a little skeptical that she’d leave the Doctor, and her whole life behind for someone she hardly knows… (even if she does have a crush on her). Perhaps it would’ve made more sense if Bill had no option to return to being alive.
Overall, my praises outweigh the problems in the case of ‘The Doctor Falls’, as I did enjoy it far more than I disliked of it.
A
July 1st, 2017 - 9:33pmDoctor 12 doesn’t want to regenerate… he wants to die. He’s not fighting it just because he doesn’t want to change. He’s had enough. Perhaps the final straws were Bill’s conversion & Missy’s apparent betrayal after her progress during her imprisonment. When he wakes he doesn’t know Missy tried to come back to help. He doesn’t know Heather found & saved the essence of Bill if not the human form(I know Heather said she could put Bill back together as human but I choose to ignore that because a) ‘reset buttons’ are annoying & b) I don’t think Bill would ever choose that).
Doctor 12 never expected to exist. The 11th thought he was the last. He had seen his grave on Trenzalore after all. The entirety of series 8 was, to my mind, the Doctor trying to recover from some kind of PTSD after a 900 year war, to find his reason to go on. In To Kill The Moon, for example, he says he might regenerate forever. While he says this in a kinda playful way, he looks to Clara & I think there’s a hint of reproach too.
Doctor 12 isn’t saying he doesn’t want to go, he’s saying he doesn’t want to go on in my opinion.
Lorraine Sheridan
July 1st, 2017 - 8:00pmObviously need to watch again before making an in depth appraisal but at the moment I thought the episode was truly brilliant. I have that sad feeling which happens at the end of a series. Not all episodes hit the spot as we know but found this one emotional. Peter is such a great actor and Pearl deserves credit. I hope this leads to other good roles for her
DOCTORDREDD67
July 1st, 2017 - 7:55pmThe best by far from Moffat in my opinion. Bills resurrection was the only, what ????? moment , though the rest was very well laid out and the brilliant scene where missy and the master back stab each other, just typical of that character. But He /she will be back sometime I’m sure. Hearing the first doctor uttering his first words in that final scene, I jumped out of my chair , I was really hoping for this to happen, and it has. Roll on Christmas. 🙂
Harold Saxon
July 1st, 2017 - 7:52pmMarvellous episode , lots of drama with the two masters, they were good together , I do think they left the door open for the master somehow ! Good ending too great fun episode
The Surgeon
July 1st, 2017 - 7:52pmI have to say although the ending wasn’t what I would have done it was executed much better than in Hell Bent. Fantastic episode, incredible job again with the direction with Bill/CyberBill and a characteristically brilliant script. Love Moffat gradually undoing the mess Neil Gaiman made of the Cybermen, and is making them so much better again. Christmas is obviously going to be wonderful too. Really satisfied and the best (new) series to date, no question. Well done all
Prof Horner
July 1st, 2017 - 7:52pmIt is the first time in long time that I can not wait to find out what happens next. Roll on xmas.
Simm was wasted though. Lets hope it is worth the wait. Better than the awful Matt Smith final.
Adam
July 1st, 2017 - 7:50pmAnd i thought pantomime season wasn’t until christmas?! This was pretty awful! Dear Peter capaldi deserved so much more,as did Pearl mackie,who as Bill potts was easily my favourite companion of ‘new who’. And to top it off we get David bradley doing an horrendous impersonation of the late great William hartnell….Shame on you Steven moffat,SHAME ON YOU!!
The Surgeon
July 1st, 2017 - 7:54pmSame about Bill. But why do you want Bradley doing an impression of Hartnell? No one wants that! It would be an insult to try and sound and be better than him but copying the voice fluctuations and maneurisms is not shameful at all!
r1ch1e
July 1st, 2017 - 8:13pmDon’t forget about the Five Doctors. Richard Hurndall didn’t play the 1st doctor anything like Hartnell did but it worked!
Adam
July 2nd, 2017 - 4:21pmIt didn’t work for me! Hurndall,just like Bradley was/is no 1st doctor,end of! If they want to make multi doctor stories then why not just go and get Tom,Peter,Colin or Sylvester? I’m sure they would jump at the chance to appear in a special. And there would be far more of an emotional impact which was proven by Tom’s short yet wonderful appearance in the 50th. And just for the record i loved Bradley’s performance in ‘An adventure in space and time’,but that’s where it should stay.
Sor Vad
July 2nd, 2017 - 5:59pmAdam, thank you for saying what some of us are thinking. Now the first Doctor has had three different actors. The late William Hartness being the original, then Richard Hurndall and now David Bradley. Its a bit of a poor thing to replace a great actor. Whats wrong with using the living actors like Baker, McCoy, Davison?
The moff
July 1st, 2017 - 7:48pmSuperb… bring on christmas…
The moff
July 1st, 2017 - 7:50pmOh and how creepy did the mondasian cybermen look walking through the woods!
Matt Parker
July 1st, 2017 - 7:43pmMight need to watch it again to rate it as i’m an emotional wreck……Rather too much had to happen and I think the Master being in it was a bit wasteful. Devastated that Bill has gone but that ending….wow….we must be somewhere in the last 5 minutes of Tenth Planet or something…..minds blown!!
Stop that TARDIS
July 2nd, 2017 - 10:27amSame, I’m so sad! Not sure if I can bring myself too! As Nardole said “I’m not sure for I’ll ever find the words” to describe this episode!
The Temporal Jelly Baby
July 1st, 2017 - 7:42pmI haven’t yet decided what I think of the episode. It’s going to take a while to process and perhaps a second watch. What I think I can say for sure is that episode 11 was, yet again, better.
Mark Belsom
July 1st, 2017 - 7:41pmAbsolutely loved the whole episode,did get a wee bit excited at some of it especially the ending. Can’t wait for the Xmas special.
Blackoclaret
July 1st, 2017 - 7:41pmMissy doesn’t regenerate. Master does regenerate, but not necessarily into Missy. Doctor has long hearts to hearts with original Doctor, decides wants to carry on after all. Regenerates into younger rejuvenated (wo)man.
Simon W
July 1st, 2017 - 7:43pmI do think the Master will return some how he always doe’s.
Koquillian
July 1st, 2017 - 7:38pmdespite a massive cop-out ending for Bill it was rather good. Some great moments, it’s rather fitting that it’s one of the most Moffatt-y episodes ever. Cannot wait for christmas to see my favourite doctor return!
anon
July 1st, 2017 - 7:36pmWaste of an episode
Simon W
July 1st, 2017 - 7:41pmit was brill all the line said by past doctor’s I was like walking down memory’s lane.
eluma narty
July 1st, 2017 - 7:58pmJust my own opinion. Can definitely tell it was yet another terrible moffat story. Tge Master basically commited suicide, poor Nardole had a really boring exit. And wasnt a surprise for the 1st Doctor appearing as that had already been spoilt.
Mondasian Cybermen are not supposed to fly. Heather’s return was inevitable as it was mentioned that “they could bump in to her”.
Just feel for Peter Capaldi, Jenna Coleman, Pearl Mackie and Matt Lucas as Steven Moffat has tarnished the show. His storys for past series such as The Empty Child 2 parter, Blink and the character of River Song were really good, but being a head writer just is not his strongest point.
I really feel that Chris Chibnall will give Doctor Who the reboot it really does need. And i do hope that all these rumours of actor Kris Marshall becoming the 13th Doctor are true as i feel that he will make a truly good Doctor.
Seeing as the Multi Doctor Christmas special is written by Moffat, i do not have high hopes at all. These are just my personal thoughts and opinions, so please dont moan at me. If you liked it, then thats good. I just thought it was rubbish. World Enough & Time was much better.
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:31pmeluma narty you have the right to want and expect better, I also feel the same way and have said so many times before, hopefully you are right about Chris Chibnall giving the show a right kick up the backside it desperately needs.
prototype dalek
July 1st, 2017 - 7:33pmCant wait for Christmas, quite a different ending to everything that I didn’t expect. Now, what will happen with what happened to missy?
DWCR
July 1st, 2017 - 7:32pmMULTI DOCTOR CHRISTMAS SPECIAL
therealwhovian63
July 1st, 2017 - 7:33pmSo
The master was killed by mossy and missy was killed by the master. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey