November 1st, 2014
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In the mysterious world of the Nethersphere, plans have been drawn up. Missy is about to come face to face with the Doctor, and an impossible choice is looming.
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Exterminator
October 28th, 2014 - 2:17amI think Missy is the grim reaper/death and the promised land is Mondas.
I’ve no idea why shes helping the cybermen though.
Can’t wait to find out.
stephen m
October 27th, 2014 - 8:22pmWhen she said she had chosen Clara, it reminded me of fenric and his manipulation of ace
Cyber10Dalek
October 27th, 2014 - 6:35pmThe new trailer shows some interesting things.At 0:14 we see a skeletal hand pressing a button,at 0:18 we see a figure rising behind the Doctor in a chamber and what is striking me the most is Clara is a LOT less villainous in this trailer.While this confirms she must get her evil influence a bit later on in the ep,or if she gets it at the start loses it until the end,there are now even more questions! I think that since we can see a figure in what looks to be one of those rooms with a chair and it is skeletal,those chairs are where the subjects sit to be upgraded.Also,the Doctor questions why someone would watch the tombs since the dead don’t come back,pretty much saying that i was right about people getting stored in those tombs when they go to the Nethersphere.All this is strengthening my beliefs that the Cybermen are using the Nethersphere to build up and army for the invasion we will see in this episode! Please reply and give your thoughts and theories
GallifreyanKnight
October 27th, 2014 - 4:39pmShe’s not the Master, the Rani, or any other old character in a new incarnation.
Drwho101
October 27th, 2014 - 7:14pmDo you know who she is?
DOCTOR WHO ONE
October 27th, 2014 - 4:14pmWell it’s not the Rani herself, as I recall reading once somewhere on the Internet that Steven Moffat himself will not be bringing back the Rani because he feels she did not have a big impact on Doctor Who.
Anonymous
October 27th, 2014 - 12:25pmThe doctors real daughter
Kieran winder
October 27th, 2014 - 1:14pmI think for this new year they should do a episode special where the doctors from the past are in it where the one thing more dangerous then anything is threatening the universe and all the monsters actors for previous doctor who are all in it and Billie piper
Drwho101
October 27th, 2014 - 2:41pmThey already did that with the cracks and the pandorica
CJ
October 27th, 2014 - 10:13amTo the people who think Missy is the Master, I’m betting you all its not
the astronaut of death
October 27th, 2014 - 12:17pmWeLl who do you think she is?
CJ
October 27th, 2014 - 1:27pmSomeone else but I don’t know
Finlay parker
October 27th, 2014 - 10:06amIt’s river song!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
October 27th, 2014 - 10:10amRiver’s Story is over
the astronaut of death
October 27th, 2014 - 12:17pmWe dont know that for 100%
DOCTOR WHO ONE
October 27th, 2014 - 4:13pmActually we do, cos when we last saw her, she asked to Doctor to say goodbye to her as if he was going to see her again, so River’s story is over now.
GallifreyanKnight
October 27th, 2014 - 4:39pmNo Finlay.
the
October 28th, 2014 - 10:35amyes but river and the doctor are always meeting in the wrong order
so whos to say river never had an adventure with the 12th doctor
antpodal bob
October 27th, 2014 - 9:48amgenius machina perhaps – the spirit of the machine, in this case the tardis. It / she has had a face lift after all
The Surgeon
October 27th, 2014 - 9:05amI still think she’s the Master.
1 Missy -> Mistress -> Master
2 Doctor = Boyfriend (It’s the kind of thing Simm would have said)
3 Master has met Cybermen before
4 In DB, the Nethersphere fountain looked like a TARDIS Time Rotor.
5 In TEoT, “Listen” was Simm’s catchphrase (so I think the Time Lord child in Listen was actually the Master not the Doctor, and in Utopia, Jacoby said he was an orphan)
6 Nether means hell-see Minecraft, etc :)-and the Master looks like that kind of guy.
7 (This one’s a bit vague)-Missy doesn’t know much about Earth as she’s surprised the trees save it
Peking Homunculus
October 27th, 2014 - 1:19amNo no no, she’s clearly Sarah Kingdom back from the dead, looking for revenge because the Doctor didn’the save her.
BooBoo fan
October 27th, 2014 - 5:44pmstop referencing Kingdom
Cyber10Dalek
October 26th, 2014 - 11:10pmI’ve come up with a new theory regarding the Cybermen’s presence in the finale and what the Nethersphere may be.Considering that we can see Cybermen flying, a whole bunch of them invading London, and a few of them can be seen in what looks to be the Nether sphere considering that we can see R.I.P above a set of doors next to them,this is my theory.I think that the Nethersphere might be some sort of storage chamber for the Cybermen where they cryogenically store anyone who dies and goes to the Nethersphere via some kind of teleport and after a while frozen,upgrade them.It would explain how they have new-found capabilities to fly and how there seem to be so many of them.However,I don’t know how Missy connects with their plan but i guess we’ll find out in the finale! Please respond and give your thoughts and theories.
lepter
October 26th, 2014 - 10:57pmmissy….=…miss C
Missy is a future clara.
wouldyoulikeajellybaby
October 27th, 2014 - 6:36amI agree.In the end of flatline clara looked like she was turning dark.”do i have your attention,you will never step in your tardis without this” that is the work of evil clara.I reckon missy was created when she jumped into the timeline.
Doctor Stu
October 26th, 2014 - 10:03pmI really hope this isn’t one of these things where it turns out that Clara was evil the whole time because just like the teselecta thing in the wedding of river song the emotions that Clara has expressed and the things that she’s said and her whole overall attitude the last two series’ just doesn’t fit with me with someone who’s been evil the whole time
CJ
October 27th, 2014 - 6:15amWell its either that or I think shes been brainwashed
wizard
October 26th, 2014 - 9:46pmjust watched in the forest.. seems better writing
(is he a new writer to the series)and more of a story.. capaldi seems to be growing into the role although still a bit stoic
thought missy might be a future river song cant see her being the master why would she save anyone who is connected with the doctor ? could even be the doctors mum …nah
CJ
October 27th, 2014 - 6:16amRiver’s Story is over
the astronaut of death
October 27th, 2014 - 12:18pmWe don’t know that 100%
The Doctor Wolf
October 28th, 2014 - 12:30pmYes we do – and good thing too, the characters reached her natural end
The Dark Doctor
October 26th, 2014 - 9:13pmPerhaps she is the Cybermen’s conscious?
Failing that, she may well have been the Doctor’s girlfriend back on Gallifray. We know he had kids so perhaps she knew the 1st Doctor…
wouldyoulikeajellybaby
October 27th, 2014 - 6:40amWhen she said that he will never step in your tardis again she seemed to be in a fiery earthplace so it is possible this is gallifrey!!!
Drwho101
October 26th, 2014 - 8:34pmWhat if she’s a new female timelord calked the mistress,she doesn’t have to be the master,I always thought we could have an evil new timelord calked the mistress,maybe this is it and maybe she’s twice as bad as the master
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 8:38pmThats what I’ve been thinking aswell! 😀
Drwho101
October 26th, 2014 - 9:54pmA timelord whose been helped by the Cybermen to do something like another timewar
Anonymous
October 26th, 2014 - 8:09pmI reckon Missy is “The Woman in the Shop”. Since the beginning of Season 7 there’s been a single, unseen throwaway character referred to as “The Woman in the Shop”. She was responsible for giving Clara The Doctor’s phone number and was also responsible for the ad placed in Victorian England which led them to the café run by the Clockwork Men…..a good as theory as any…
TheExtremeBlueTARDIS
October 26th, 2014 - 10:00pmWait… I was under the impression that one of the Clara’s from the Doctor’s timestream placed the ad in the newspaper, because I thought the Doctor could tell that and the reason Clara was annoyed with him calling her those names was because he knew it was her. But since us viewers knew it wasn’t her, I kind of thought it was one of the million of Clara’s…
Now I’m confused 😆
Anonymous
October 26th, 2014 - 11:23pmHe was mocking her because he thought that Clara in front of him placed the ad…hence his surprise and puzzlement when she told him she didn’t place it. Also if Clara was the woman in the shop, wouldn’t she recognise herself?
wouldyoulikeajellybaby
October 27th, 2014 - 6:42amI think that is now obvious isn’t it and should be official.
The Doctor
October 26th, 2014 - 7:46pmI personally think it’s the master because all the signs are staring every whovian in the face. In utopia, that was the ‘promised land’ where all the future humans dreamed of going. Then in deep breath, the clockwork droid went to his promise land. The master in the end of time went to gallifrey when fighting rassilon and in the day of the doctor, the eleventh doctor tells about his journey to get to where he wants to be the most, home being gallifrey, so I think the master needs the doctor to somehow die to get himself or herself back to the main universe, and like the tenth doctor said in the last of the time lords, series 3 finale (might have the name wrong) the master can’t resist not to die. That is my theory anyway and in fairness it makes sense in my head, cause thinking into it further, in the trailer, Clara says to the doctor he can’t use the TARDIS, and in the end of time, the tenth is reluctant to give intel on the location of the TARDIS so Clara may still be the good guy in this situation where she looks like the villain in the trailer. Comment below on any thoughts of this, literally just thought it up and I would love to know other information to back this theory up
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 8:37pmDon’t forget, Missy referred the Doctor as her “boyfriend” so why would the Master say that hes boyfriends with the Doctor?
Doctor Stu
October 26th, 2014 - 10:01pmMaybe he is because apparently time lords can be male and female and if the doctor was a female would she still like females or change to males. I’m going deep here but ya know
wouldyoulikeajellybaby
October 27th, 2014 - 6:50amBecause they used to be best friends at school the doctor and the master so friends and the master could of taken over a female body now saying the doctor is his boyfriend
The Doctor
October 28th, 2014 - 3:32pmMore on the theory though, missy is working with a team called 3W, and I think it stands for 3 worlds, earth, nether sphere and gallifrey, and if this is true then possibly the nether sphere is the between world of gallifrey and earth, limbo if you will, and if my theory is right, the master needs the doctor to make gallifrey return to the earths universe, and the only way to do that is if the doctor dies, and in the trailer he looks as if he is falling to his death. I’m not sure where the cybermen come in however the master has linked with them before and I think they could be there as a distraction possibly, I don’t know I could be right, I could be wrong, but it might be like the slitheen episode for the 9th doctor, the pig being just a distraction so that the real plan doesn’t get derailed.
The Doctor
November 2nd, 2014 - 1:19amYEASSSSSSSSSS I GOT IT RIGHT, maybe not the background but it’s the master
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 6:34pmOkay, I very much doubt Missy is the Doctor, it be weird if she was Clara, Missy turning out to be the Rani is a theory but I doubt she will be, Why would the Master say that hes boyfriends with the Doctor??? And the Mad Monk, I don’t think so! So really, I believe Missy is someone new…
Dalek Supreme
October 26th, 2014 - 6:15pmI don’t want it to be, but I have a *really* bad feeling it’s gonna be River Song…
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 6:18pm…But Moffat said that River’s Story is over!
Anonymous
October 26th, 2014 - 7:02pmMoffat lies
Doyouhearthem?
October 26th, 2014 - 6:10pmcouldn’t Missy just be…
Missy?
wouldyoulikeajellybaby
October 27th, 2014 - 6:53amClara is called miss and is a nanny so who acts like a nanny?missy so who else could it be and what is 3w
Harold Saxon
October 26th, 2014 - 5:23pmFirst i will go for her being The Master second,The Rani i hope one of those,nicer if it is a returning villain.
the astronaut of death
October 26th, 2014 - 2:41pmI think she is 100% a time lady
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 6:13pmYou never know…
the astronaut of death
October 26th, 2014 - 2:40pmI wonder why it is called dark water
Floppy_Who
October 26th, 2014 - 8:51pmOne theory I’ve seen: Dark Water = Evil River. Is Missy the River Song’s Valeyard..?
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 8:54pmRiver’s Story is over
the astronaut of death
October 26th, 2014 - 2:39pmTo be honest I hope it is not someone else
I hope it is someone we have met before as it will be more exiting
Brendan
October 26th, 2014 - 6:11pmIn Nightmare in Silver a character called Missy hid from the Cybermen, last we saw of her, she had a cyber hand over her face, which had unattached itself from the Cyberman. Any connection?
Cyber10Dalek
October 26th, 2014 - 12:49pmI have no idea who Missy could possibly be! I personally don’t think she is a female Master because Moffat ruled out the possibility of him returning(although Moffat has lied to us before),I also don’t think she’s the Rani since it wouldn’t really fit in considering she referred to the Doctor as her `boyfriend`.I highly doubt she’s the Doctor and the Monk,and while I believe she definitely has some form of connection with Clara,I don’t think she IS Clara.I believe she is someone new to us but familiar to the Doctor due to their hinted history with each other.
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 1:21pmExactly, I agree!
the astronaut of death
October 26th, 2014 - 2:41pmYeah I think she is a female master
Dalekparadigm2
October 26th, 2014 - 11:29amI JUST DON’T KNOW ANY MORE!!!!!
My theory was that she was a parallel Doctor
or Clara
or The Rani
maybe even the Dream Lord…
I DON’T KNOW!!!!
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 11:37amI just think shes someone new…
the astronaut of death
October 26th, 2014 - 2:40pmAt first I thought she was the rani
But now I think she is the master
CJ
October 26th, 2014 - 11:14amShe is obviously somebody new.
the astronaut of death
October 26th, 2014 - 2:40pmObviously ?
the astronaut of death
October 26th, 2014 - 9:52amI just don’t know
At first I thought she was the rani. But then I began to think she was just someone new then I thought she could be the master but now she could be Clara
I WANT TO KNOW NOW ITS DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!!
MonsieurHaloQui
October 26th, 2014 - 10:29amonly 6 days left
MaîtreAuréoleQui
October 26th, 2014 - 10:33amDark Water comes on Saturday.
Chances of rain on Saturday.
Heavy rain?