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What Did You Think of The Angels Take Manhattan?

What Did You Think of The Angels Take Manhattan?

The final episode of series 7a has aired so what did you think?, was it the best episode ever or just average.

The Doctor’s heart-breaking farewell to Amy and Rory – a race against time through the streets of Manhattan, as New York’s statues come to life around them…

With Rory’s life in danger, the Doctor and Amy must locate him before it’s too late! Luckily, an old friend helps them and guides the way.









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232 comments

  • jedi jim

    September 30th, 2012 - 5:20pm

    When exactly did the angel zap them back to? Why can’t the Doctor see them in a later year (1945 perhaps?). Amy’s gravestone says she lives to the age of 87. If the angel sends her back to 1938, and I guess she’s about 25 years old already, her date of death would be in 2000!

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  • kevin

    September 30th, 2012 - 4:51pm

    what bugs me that amy and rory shouldnt have died because of the episode the hungry earth the doctor sees amy and rory in 2020.

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    • crazy guy

      September 30th, 2012 - 5:29pm

      time can be rewritten like after Rory died Amy just saw herself

    • Trenzalore 64

      October 1st, 2012 - 5:48pm

      …………………….PLOT HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Esterath

    September 30th, 2012 - 4:23pm

    What was the throwaway line from TIA?

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  • Anonymous

    September 30th, 2012 - 3:23pm

    Have you seen, BBC Books are releasing the Melody Malone book.
    Unfortunately it is only an e-book.

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    • Whovian

      October 1st, 2012 - 5:04pm

      Hahaha! I have a kindle!

    • KORSAIR

      October 1st, 2012 - 5:20pm

      Me too.

    • Anonymous

      October 3rd, 2012 - 11:12am

      When?

    • Anonymous

      October 3rd, 2012 - 11:18am

      Nvm I just preordered it on iTunes

  • DD97

    September 30th, 2012 - 3:10pm

    When I first saw the ending I instantly made a link between this episode and the final episode of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. Both the doctor and the main protoganist(Simon) lose the people that they love ( with the Ponds sent back in time and Nia fading from existence) and then t both the doctor and Simon travel alone with just 1 other person(the doctor with river and simon with boota). If you have seen TTGL you’ll know what I’m talking about.

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  • Stan Stanmanson

    September 30th, 2012 - 2:47pm

    I SAID THEY WORLD DIE! WOULD ANYONE LISTEN? NO!

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    • Blink

      October 1st, 2012 - 1:43am

      It has been known that they would die in this episode since March I think.

  • Whovian

    September 30th, 2012 - 1:02pm

    Am I the only one who jumped when the angel in the graveyard touched rory?

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    • Mr Evil Fez

      September 30th, 2012 - 2:06pm

      I jumped too!

    • KORSAIR

      October 1st, 2012 - 5:22pm

      I jumped and said some words me granny wouldn’t like.

    • Trenzalore 64

      October 1st, 2012 - 5:49pm

      very good plot twist.

  • Kirst

    September 30th, 2012 - 11:44am

    I really enjoyed this episode but was left thoroughly confused. As far as I understand the quay building was destroyed so Amy and Rory weren’t held captive in that room. I think they were just transported back to New York and lived a normal life together. But the Doctor and River talked as if they would never see them again by why couldnt Amy and Rory just leave New York and find the Doctor again? Also River can get in contact with Amy to get the book published which doesn’t make any sense either. It didn’t feel like a definitive ending to me like when any of the other companions left. It sounds like I hated this episode but I really did like it! It was just the plotholes left me confused.

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    • terka

      September 30th, 2012 - 1:04pm

      Ecactly! I absolutely agree with you. It was a very good episode, and I really was crying when she said “good bye” and disappeared, but i honestly wasnt sure why it was such a drama. Okay, the doctor cant land the tardis in new york in that year ever again again, but he can just wait one year, so new york doesnt get ripped apart, and go there to pick them up. or, obviously, they can use rivers vortex manipulator (hope i got the spelling right) to go there, river will, definitely, cause she has to give the book to amy to publish it. so, yes, didnt make much sense to me. sounds like mister moffat thinks that dr who fans are stupid or will just buy anything he gives to them…quite disappointing.

    • terka

      September 30th, 2012 - 1:13pm

      and one more thing, why would he go back in time to tell little amy whats going to happen to her, then all the episodes with amy woudl be different! she would already know! maybe her whole life before he come back for her twelve years later would be different if she knew that he would come back, she wouldnt be a kissagram, maybe she wouldnt be dating rory at all, if he actually went there to tell her all that stuff, he could ruin everything they experienced together…i think…:)

  • Blank

    September 30th, 2012 - 11:39am

    This episode happened a bit to quickly for me. The gang were happy, Rory got send back, they chased Rory, the ponds created a paradox and then the ponds got killed.

    They shouldn’t have done it so quickly.

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  • The TARDIS

    September 30th, 2012 - 11:02am

    It’s just struck me – the Angels weren’t defeated! Rory was sent back and what was meant to happen happened! So the Angels took Manhattan, but the Doctor never took it back.

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    • booboo

      September 30th, 2012 - 11:05am

      no the angels had been defeated and the building gone, it was lone survivor that sent him back in time that’s why he and Amy were able to to leave a normal life.

    • The TARDIS

      September 30th, 2012 - 11:24am

      Oh good. I shouldn’t have thought Steven Moffat would have left an end untied.

    • Anonymous

      October 11th, 2012 - 11:12am

      But the doctor didn’t deal with the angel that sent back Amy and Rory, there’s still an angel on the loose

  • the astronaut of death

    September 30th, 2012 - 10:55am

    as much as i like the weeping angels if they ever return i hope they are destroyed

    but i do love the weeping angels

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  • crazy guy

    September 30th, 2012 - 10:52am

    dose anyone find it sad that amy and rory died waiting but at least they were waiting together

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    • crazy guy

      September 30th, 2012 - 10:53am

      the girl and boy who waited

    • videogamemad00

      October 2nd, 2012 - 8:43pm

      But Amy died alone. (She lived 5 years longer than Rory)

    • Anonymous

      October 11th, 2012 - 11:14am

      She didn’t nessicerily live longer, she just died older. They wernt the same age were they?

  • Tomuuu

    September 30th, 2012 - 9:31am

    River song will die in this years final!! Noooooo

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    • Professor When

      September 30th, 2012 - 10:31am

      Umm… River died in ‘Forest of the Dead’…

    • Mr Evil Fez

      September 30th, 2012 - 11:28am

      And anyway, where did you get this information Tomuuu?

  • The TARDIS

    September 30th, 2012 - 9:19am

    I absolutely loved it! Steven Moffat played some brilliant tricks on us in this episode. When it comes to a companions departure, we always know it’s going to happen but they don’t. But here, they knew right from the start that they were going to die which created some brilliant dramatic irony as the story continued. Also, the trick of having them survive the fall made it all the more emotional when the inevitable happened.
    Murray Gold’s score was, as always, fantastic and the scenes in the Big Apple where everything was perfect just showcased the whole era of the Ponds.
    Unfortunately, the Angels just didn’t scare me in this episode. Even with the Time of Angels, there was the terrifying sequence of the Angel coming out of the screen, whereas here there just wasn’t anything particularly creepy about them.
    My only real moan about this episode is one that’s plagued the whole series: it needed another episode. Yeah, that’d ruin the whole “movie” aspect, but the plot just felt far too hurried as with every other episode. The filmic feel of this series just dpoesn’t float my boat, whilst I bet that for some people it will be better than ever.
    Oh well – of this series, this was the episode that felt the most like Doctor Who to me, and the best one of this series in my opinion.
    10/10

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    • The TARDIS

      September 30th, 2012 - 9:24am

      Oh yeah – the Statue of Liberty aspect was a brilliant idea, but it was brushed over too quickly. It wasn’t fully utilised by the episode. And I think that if they had put “Amy Williams” in the closing titles instead of “Amy Pond” then that would have made it for me and completely set me off crying. Still, I won’t be alone in saying that the (two) goodbye scenes made me cry.
      “Together, or not at all.” is, I think, the motto for the whole of Doctor Who.

    • Professor When

      September 30th, 2012 - 9:30am

      I agree! Well, mostly agree, but the angels did scare me just a couple of times. The baby’s footsteps (tapa-tapa-tapa), the smiling angel, and the SHOCK when rory was zapped back in time. πŸ™‚

    • Dalek Prime Minister

      September 30th, 2012 - 10:38am

      It was so sad seeing the ponds falling off the building, and her saying goodbye, especially reading the last bit saying this is how her story ended!
      One thing, the statue of liberty looked too close to the building and surely someone would notice it has move sand changed!

  • Fields of Trenzalore fall of the elevent silence will fall the question dr who

    September 30th, 2012 - 9:10am

    Good could have been better,could have been longer could have Amy and Rory zapped
    back in time to find young melody pond could have had more statue of liberty,then
    Amy and Rory in leadworth.i did not think it was as good as it could beAmy and Rory should
    have been

    zapped and raise melody instead of the silence,then die in leadworth,also explain Rory ‘s I’d badge.i like it but it needed to be better exit.but Amy still needs more revenge in the silence for causing the crack,using her and

    river and killing the doctor.still good

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  • kevindoctorwhoun

    September 30th, 2012 - 8:49am

    Well tbqh its not what I expected amy and rory sent back in time could of made it a bit more dramatic something like an angel in the tardis or a 2 parter like somebody else said I wonder about series 7b hope its good the xmas one looks okay not the best didn’t really give us any information about the episode itself but bye amy and rory hope u show your faces some time in the future ???? πŸ™‚

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    • Anonymous

      September 30th, 2012 - 8:54am

      Im glad amy and rory are dead but this episode me me feel like thats it it was not scary

  • Give me a Dalek anyday!

    September 30th, 2012 - 8:43am

    Angels Take Manhattan is all I want for a Saturday night – perfecto (10/10)

    First time I was emotionaly touched since David Tennant’s regeneration!

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  • Fields of Trenzalore fall of the elevent silence will fall the question dr who

    September 30th, 2012 - 7:36am

    I think he should have said goodbye to young Amelia,he did but we did not see it.when the doctor next meets the angels he will be angry.i hope the angels return the doctor will be angry with them

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  • Jason doctorwhoone

    September 30th, 2012 - 7:29am

    This is now my favorite episode of series 6 [previously it was A Town Called Mercy].

    Such a great story to end the Pond’s travels with the Doctor, and sheer proof that if you don’t want to spend the rest of your life without the one you love, then you don’t have too, just die with them and you’ll both never be alone πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

    Never would have guessed the novel had any real significance to the story, I thought it was just some book the Doctor was reading while enjoying the picnic with Amy and Rory.

    Loved the reuse of footage of young Amelia Pond played by Karen’s cousin Katlin, I bet Katlin is really pleased they ended the story with her version of the character, which is only fair, since she played her first before Karen did.

    Goodbye Amy and Rory – HELLO CLARA OSWIN !!!! πŸ˜€

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    • Jason doctorwhoone

      September 30th, 2012 - 7:29am

      Series 7, not 6, sorry all.

  • doctorwhocrazyfreak

    September 30th, 2012 - 7:06am

    i didnt like the fact that rory died three times and amy died twice. why cant they just die once. i would have really liked it if they were just dropped off at home

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  • Dalek Strategist

    September 30th, 2012 - 4:06am

    *Wipes away a tear* That… was such a great episode…. This was terrifying and sad, and a beautiful episode. The one thing I didn’t like about it was how they never explained how Angels could turn other statues into Weeping Angels. Then again, Doctor Who is full of continuity errors(Yeah, I mean YOU, Davros!). The departure of the Ponds was so sad… RIP: Amy and Rory Pond πŸ˜₯

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  • JNelson

    September 30th, 2012 - 3:50am

    At the end-Seems to me that the doctor came back to see young Amy the morning he had originally promised to return, so that he has added yet a third timeline to tied to their relationship. Time Lords may have rules about these things, but he has never followed rules to the letter.

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  • paul

    September 30th, 2012 - 1:51am

    A great way for Rory & Amy to leave the show together, was on the edge of my seat (nearly fell of a few times!). probably one of the best episodes so far…
    Just waiting now for the trolls to go into full bitchy mode! :))

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  • Will

    September 30th, 2012 - 1:42am

    Meh. I got sick of Amy and Rory after a while. Amy seemed to get bitchier every series and Rory seemed to become just a comic fool. The Doctor acts like a childish prat too. The episode was overall fairly dull and the departure of the Ponds didn’t have much emotional effect at all especially when you consider the fact that they were the longest running Doctor who companions of the new era. It all seemed too quick. I was also hoping River would go with them as she’s outstayed her welcome. I will say, Matt’s performance in this is fantastic though I am not a fan of his Doctor. Overall series 7a gets a 7/10.

    Series 1: 8/10
    Series 2: 9/10
    Series 3: 8/10
    Series 4: 8/10
    Specials: 7/10
    Series 5: 7/10
    Series 6a: 6/10
    Series 6b: 3/10

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    • John Smith

      September 30th, 2012 - 8:36am

      Matt Smith is a great Doctor. Leave him be! I reckon that your one of those people who think that ONLY David Tennant can play the Doctor and ONLY Russel T Davies can write the show. Things change and the Pond’s were great characters, don’t diss them! Also River isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

    • The 14th Doctor

      September 30th, 2012 - 10:43am

      My suggestion would be to stop watching it and leave us who still like it alone.

    • Classic

      September 30th, 2012 - 10:57am

      It’s not Matt Smith’s fault, it’s Steven Moffat, he is such a bad writer.

    • John Smith

      September 30th, 2012 - 11:18am

      I completely agree with The 14th Doctor and Classic. If you don’t like it, leave it. Matt Smith is my favorite Doctor alongside David Tennant and Tom Baker. Steven Moffat is a great writer but sometimes I think that he get’s a bit carried away and expects everyone to understand what the heck he’s going on about! HE NEEDS A RESTRAINING ORDER FROM DOCTOR WHO SCRIPTS! LOL.

  • dr who who

    September 29th, 2012 - 10:49pm

    one of the best episode ive ever watched!!! loved it!!! so emotional at the end. good bye ponds…

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  • Dave

    September 29th, 2012 - 10:47pm

    it wasn’t as good as i thorght it would have bee, Can’t wait for Merlin, so much better then Doctor Who.

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    • Boodleoo

      September 30th, 2012 - 12:12am

      You did not just say that.:(

    • Mr Evil Fez

      September 30th, 2012 - 7:03am

      If you don’t like Doctor Who why are you on this site?

    • FifthDrRules

      September 30th, 2012 - 8:34am

      I agree. Although I like Dr Who, and I always watch it over and over again, I do find merlin a bit more interesting, and prefer some of the story lines

    • John Smith

      September 30th, 2012 - 8:38am

      Two words. Get out… Just like that pig nosed guy in Star Wars IV said “He doesn’t like you, I DON’T LIKE YOU EITHER!”

    • Dave

      September 30th, 2012 - 11:34am

      i was a Doctor Who fan, untill Steven Moffat took over.

    • John Smith

      October 1st, 2012 - 1:37am

      I’ve heard so many people say that. It’s actually starting to get annoying!

    • The TARDIS

      October 8th, 2012 - 4:04pm

      Far too many people are saying that they were Doctor Who fans til Steven Moffat took over, but if that were true then you weren’t Doctor Who fans. You were Russell T. Davies fan.

  • 47

    September 29th, 2012 - 10:45pm

    Very good ! Perhaps the best of the Moffat/Smith era. I liked that episode !

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  • Jewkesy

    September 29th, 2012 - 10:37pm

    Don’t forget they didn’t die, they just left the doctor. They went back in time, river sends the book back in time to be published by Amy. Amy types – as we saw her fingers typing at the end – and the book then saves everyones life in the present day. True Rory and Amy are dead in the present day, but we know they lived to a ripe old age as we know how Rory was ancient when he died in today’s episode. Not all sad then. You just have to look at it through timey wimey tinted spectacles πŸ™‚

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    • BadgerCo

      September 29th, 2012 - 11:11pm

      But wait, it said on the tombstone that Rory dies before Amy, so where was Amy when Rory died?

    • Boodleoo

      September 30th, 2012 - 12:15am

      The whole quay building didn’t happen it was eraised when they jumped off the building. One survived but was weak and sent Rory and Amy back in time to live their lives.

  • wonder woman

    September 29th, 2012 - 10:15pm

    Really enjoyed this one a really lovely love story where amy for a change showed rory how much she loved him we all knew cant break a rule we knew it was not happpy ending but what a beautiful story so sad

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  • sheepinafez

    September 29th, 2012 - 9:33pm

    i hate that rory didnt get to say a proper goodbye to the doctor

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    • RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND

      September 29th, 2012 - 10:00pm

      that was my only down point.

    • Tardis’nt

      September 29th, 2012 - 10:27pm

      yeah, it was really about amy at the end.

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