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Jane Bond 007
July 19th, 2017 - 10:50amSome people say the very unflattering “Girls are alien to Doctor Who fans”. But if that was true…wouldn’t Doctor Who fans be more accepting of a girl as Doctor Who…especially if she is perceived alien. That’s the kinda Doctor we want. 🙂
Tim M
July 19th, 2017 - 10:42amIt’s my theory. I don’t say it’s right, and no doubt there will be a different explanation on TV. But clearly the Doctor never became female in his first 12 regenerations (even though the 8th Doctor could have been a woman on Karn). This is only a recent development in the newer series. So I choose to consider that his next life cycle is more gender fluid, than his original, that clearly wasn’t.
Doctor Stu
July 19th, 2017 - 10:32amEvery time the Doctor regenerates the press speculate if it’s going to a woman or not and it never has been until now so we’ve had ages to get used the idea. Also it’s 1 out of 13 Doctors who have been female and if she regenerates after her first series it’s at least 13 episodes we get with her, 13 out of almost 900 episodes of a male Doctor. There really isn’t an issue I hate the whole ‘shoving an Angenda’ comments. What agenda? That women exist. It’s so offensive and so ignorant to declare ‘I’m never watching again’ or ‘they’ve ruined the show’ when nobody has seen her in the part yet. The fact that people are going to turn off purely because of the fact that she is a woman is just plain upsetting.
Gordon
July 19th, 2017 - 9:59amI don’t get why it’s an issue being a recent thing. Every part of mythology was recent or new at some point. This is just the next step in that evolution of the mythology. In 2005 it was stated “regeneration was a lottery and you don’t know what you are going to get”. That could easily refer to the possibility of a gender change. So it’s not that recent of an idea
Tim M
July 19th, 2017 - 9:55amIt’s like Moffat’s saying to the fans “Here you are folks, I’ve brought the 1st and 12th Doctor’s together at Christmas, to bookend and bring closure to the male Doctors…It’s all female from now on!”
Tim M
July 19th, 2017 - 9:48amPats86. Further down the page I gave a theory, which I feel is a reasonable explanation as to why the Doctor is female in his ‘next’ life cycle, and wasn’t in his previous regenerations. Gender being fluid on Gallifrey wasn’t there when Hartnell’s Doctor left Gallifrey a long long time ago. It’s a fairly recent development on Gallifrey, even if it has been established centuries ago. But not as far back as Hartnell’s time.
pats86
July 19th, 2017 - 9:31amDon`t even jest about that Adam….not funny
pats86
July 19th, 2017 - 9:29amIt is well put.
pats86
July 19th, 2017 - 9:28amNow the Doctor is female “there will be no reason or accountability to her actions!”
The Prydonian
July 19th, 2017 - 8:42amWell put
Floppy Who
July 19th, 2017 - 7:31amI think her first line should be: “Oh No! I’m still not ginger..!”
(Assuming JWs hair isn’t dyed red for the role, of course..!)
Pats86
July 19th, 2017 - 6:44amThe mythology of the show has changed regarding gender inthe last few years, the fact that it was not any part of the show until Moffat decided it should be explained for long time fans, those who have watched only since it returned will probably accept it easier than those who have watched since 60s/70s.
I know some older fans will also accept it but the majority I know from my generation are not happy with the change, as I posted a few days ago my wife will no longer watch and that goes for my daughter who is only 25. My son has not watched for the last 4 seasons due to poor show running.
All I ask for is some explanation for such a recent change of cannon, I will watch anyway and see how it goes but you can’t just brush over 50 years of mythology under the carpet pretending it was always like this, it wasn’t.
Mick181
July 19th, 2017 - 2:30amIt’s a new fashion in TV doing 10 x 1 hour episodes instead of up to 22 45min episodes and i reckon it’s a great idea especially for Dr Who due to the fact it has a different setting every week with a different set of bad guys and the Doctor and Companion(s) are dealing with a new set of good guys every week.
So by the time we find out where & when they are meet the good guys, and have some sort of idea of what they are dealing with 15 mins has gone by and only leaves 1/2 hour to tell the story, thats why it worked so well in the old days of 4-6 episodes, episode 1 would set it up
The Moffatt Paradox
July 19th, 2017 - 1:37amViewing figures impaired!
EMMERGENCY,EMMERGENCY,EMMERGENCY!!!
Gordon
July 19th, 2017 - 1:31amcasting a woman is worse than the show being pulled for 16 years and potentially never coming back? Don’t think so. At least there is a guarantee of a show till at least 2020. When it went on hiatus there was no guarantee that the show was ever coming back. The show was dead as a tv series at that point. How is a woman being cast more infamous than a cancellation because it really isn’t.
The Moffatt Paradox
July 19th, 2017 - 1:28am“There was no persuasion needed. If you need to be persuaded to do this part, you’re not right for this part, and the part isn’t right for you. I also”
LOL For the benefit of those who think there’s a parallel with the furore over the casting of Daniel Craig as Bond, gender issues aside, he DIDN’T think initially he was right for that role. So being certain your right for the role doesn’t necessarily mean that you are.
The Moffatt Paradox
July 19th, 2017 - 1:13amTheta was NO obvious gender issue with Craig so the credibility leap from the other actors was nothing like as pronounced.
The Moffat Paradox
July 19th, 2017 - 12:26amCant bear to view the trailer again from Sunday and still wince at the photograph.Don`t like the actresses’s comments on femminism that even numbers of female fans aren’t all comfortable with and PC agenda which was paved by Moffat and in universe tinkering; which was irksome and is now personally unpalletable.
Too psychologically weded to character as MALE,not the only one.Doubt my thoughts and feelings will change (Nobody in charge of things seems to know anymore when things are being taken TOO FAR.)Nothig against the actress in another role but feel like a member of a party with a new leader that they already want rid of.
Adam
July 18th, 2017 - 11:34pmI can just imagine Chibnall’s first line uttered by his new Timelady…At last..i’m a woman AGAIN !!
The Prydonian
July 18th, 2017 - 11:15pmJodie Whitaker is without doubt a fine actress. I have seen her first hand. However as some of us keep saying, Jodie is not the issue – it’s the change of gender, ruining Doctor Who canon with no regard to its own history just for the sake of change under so much political pressure
Adam
July 18th, 2017 - 11:05pmJust remember that the same Sydney Newman didn’t want ‘bug eyed’ monsters or silly daleks…
booboo
July 18th, 2017 - 10:31pmyes i sort of worried that the “next generation” of fans did not seem the be there anymore
what do they think now though?
Walker
July 18th, 2017 - 10:26pmSaturday nights, fish n chips, doctor who let the kids stay up late. But I have to say that the last few series have been less kid friendly, my kids preferred Tennant and Smith and the stories they were in.
OldnGrumpy
July 18th, 2017 - 10:10pmI was actually hoping it would be JW’s “Broadchurch” co-star, Olivia Colman. But JW seems to have a good reputation as an actor, so I’ll reserve judgement until the third or fourth episode of Series Eleven. If Sydney Newman thought a female Doctor was worth trying then I’m willing to give Doctor 13 the benefit of the doubt.
Neal T.
July 18th, 2017 - 9:34pmI don’t think most of the negativity is anything to do with Jodie Whittaker, she is a fine actress. I do feel a lot of it is to an enforced perception that the Doctor must be female now! No real logical reason why, no fall of empires, or floods, or plagues of locusts if this didn’t happen, but insurmountable pressure that it must! Strange that it is quite possible those same people pushing for this are directly opposed to a female Prime Minister being in power, an actual real world event . ( I do point out I have no political affiliations, I think all politicians are equally out of touch with reality) Please don’t make personal attacks on the actress taking the roll, the decision to make the change is not here, she is brave taking on the role.
booboo
July 18th, 2017 - 9:32pmnon of the above, or much else for that matter
Exterminator
July 18th, 2017 - 9:29pmKardashians lol
booboo
July 18th, 2017 - 9:04pmisn’t the real problem here distinguishing this between something that we should perhaps expect to happen as part of recent Timelord mythology, and a victory that has nothing to so with the show?
Pats86
July 18th, 2017 - 8:53pmFor all the fans who did not want this gender change I would ask Moffat to give us an explanation as to why he has never been female during his whole first generation cycle, considering gender is fluid on Gallifrey?
We know why it the BBC’S agenda that’s why.
It is what it is now, so we are owed an explanation in the Xmas special, it’s the least we deserve.
I and others can then continue to watch knowing why, with a real explanation, not “the Doctor is an alien that changes it’s image from time to time” that simplistic reason is lame! We want a proper well thought out reason…maybe Chibnall should do it he might make a better job of it than Moffat?
Thomas
July 18th, 2017 - 8:50pmIt’s actually a TV show that people like myself are passionate about. Are you passionate about a TV show? – Game of Thrones, soap operas, Kardashians etc.
It’s the same with music & comic books/graphic novels also movies.
🙂