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Pats86
July 21st, 2017 - 4:20pmPeter Davidson appears to agree with myself and others on this matter anon, and I have already stated women are great role models too. Just not as the Doctor.
R1ch1e
July 21st, 2017 - 4:06pmRIP Deborah Watling (sorry about type error)
R1ch1e
July 21st, 2017 - 4:05pmTOP Deborah Watling!
Tyler Prescott
July 21st, 2017 - 4:02pmWe need a Doctor, as the 9th Doctor said, with two heads. Or no head.
Tyler Prescott
July 21st, 2017 - 4:00pmWhat do you mean?
NoMore
July 21st, 2017 - 3:59pmPats86, exactly how I feel about it. I just can’t make peace with it.
NoMore
July 21st, 2017 - 3:55pmCan’t help but wish Adam’s right.
Adam
July 21st, 2017 - 3:47pmIt’s criminal Capaldi is leaving already…his Doctor and the wonderful Pearl Mackie’s Bill Potts have easily been my favourite team since the 7th Doctor and Ace! Yes i would have loved at least one more series with them…and under a different showrunner…Such a shame..
Chris
July 21st, 2017 - 3:32pmI’ve kind of had enough now of everyone saying this is “PC” and all about SJW’s and an “agenda” that the BBC are “pandering” to. Listen to that rhetoric – it really sounds like everyone throwing their sonic screwdriver replicas out of a pram! What is WRONG with being Politically Correct? What is wrong about Social Justice? These are the very things the Doctor has always fought for. Why are you now standing against her? 50 years and 12 (or 13) variations of the Doctor have been played by a male so far. Most people say they always knew the Doctor was going to be played by a woman at some point. Why not now? Do you feel it has been rushed, even though it is now cannon, whether you like it or not? Would you rather it happened in ten years time or twenty? Ideally it would have happened a long time ago but it didn’t because the sixties and seventies were not as advanced as we are. This culture change is a good thing. The Doctor has not suddenly changed forever. We still all have Hartnell – Capaldi as men – this has not been rewritten. This is not a reboot. This is nothing like any other character out there because the Doctor, by her very nature is unique. This is a continuation and growth of the Doctor and their universe. And we are bound to have more male doctors further down the line too – if you feel you can only respect a male actor in that role. Keep calm and carry on!
Adam
July 21st, 2017 - 3:18pmSo was Peter Capaldi (my favourite Doctor since the mighty Tom Baker) really asked to stay on? Or was he pushed out for the sake of diversity?
Adam
July 21st, 2017 - 3:06pmYes this new piece of stunt casting is all ‘gender agenda’ driven..and oddly enough in the same week the BBC release the obscene amounts of money they pay their presenters..Oh but they’ll say it’s just coincidence…
booboo
July 21st, 2017 - 2:00pmBut even then will still be A Doctor for all eternity
Stop that TARDIS
July 21st, 2017 - 12:08pmGood! Peter Capaldi is still the doctor till Christmas!
The Outcast
July 21st, 2017 - 10:49amYeah but if we go by what the Doctors are called, then its only 4 male and 1 female. I find it weird how alot of the stuff Moffat did in that skit actually became part of the real show.
Pats86
July 21st, 2017 - 6:44amR1ch1e, to answer your firs question I didn’t complain about wanting Jodie Whittaker out I went down the line off this gender change being very new and undermining over 50 years of history and cannon.
I also went into how boys have now lost one of the very few non violent role models and how sad that is for many.
I am prepared to give give Whittaker a chance, I don’t have a choice as you say, it is what it is now. If the shift is too much then I will stop watching but hand on heart I’m not looking forward to it at all.
I sincerely hope I can take to Whittaker as the Doctor, it will be difficult for me because I only see the Doctor as male, not from a sexist view but as I have explained in other posts.
I do not understand why people think I and many others are judging Whittaker on the 60 second clip we have seen? It’s not about that it about the shift in direction and all the implications it might bring like a possible cancellation, I don’t believe the BBC have at least a five year plan for the show! they are hardly the most honest institution going after all.
R1ch1e
July 21st, 2017 - 5:18amI understand that this has been a shock for most, I really do and I certainly wouldn’t tell anybody how to feel about it, but Chris Chibnall is a clever man in charge of a show now that we all love and Jodie Whittaker IS The Doctor and there is nothing we can do about it.
We simply can’t judge by one clip where she doesn’t speak and walk toward a Photoshop TARDIS.
What she does so however is smile, and that smile shows me optimism and hope and a look toward a bright future which we still have to wait over a year to see (apart from Xmas special).
When the time is right, they will speak to us. Jodie will probably be on the One Show to talk about her next show before Who anyway and then they will both be interviewed by DWM. Remember John Simm said he would ONLY speak to them when he came back.
I think in the end she will be a fine doctor, I really do from the bottom of my heart.
Tom Baker said that if she doesn’t work out then she should move on. Fair Point! But he’s ALSO said that NOBODY has failed in that role, it’s just how it is!
Let’s all try to be encouraging now and try and find some beauty in this situation so we can all move forward and as Booboo said, try and enjoy the Xmas special. We got Capaldi Swanson to come yet which I’m sure will be incredible!!!!!!!!
booboo
July 21st, 2017 - 4:45amalso i think all this overshadowing the fact Peter Capaldi is still the Doctor right now and has one more episode to do
booboo
July 21st, 2017 - 4:42amthey said something in the comment upset them personal reasons
Borg
July 21st, 2017 - 1:56amExactly, heaven forbid we go an episode with Bill and not hear the ‘l’ word-lesbian.
Citsacras Dratsab
July 21st, 2017 - 12:32amWell, its a good job Olivia Coleman didnt get the part. She cant act. I know who would make a good Doctor, you Adam, excellent at stating what you think, speaking your mind and making yourself heard. Dont know who you are, but there you go. You wouldnt even need a companion…. so good at making points yourself.
anon
July 21st, 2017 - 12:26am“Boys need a male role model”. Thats a fair comment, but also fairly untrue…. for both boys and girls. Theres young males who also look up to female personalities and also males as role models. Young females look up to males and females as role models too.
My opinion: its 2017. Not Medieval times.
Girls can play with dolls, cars, musical instruments and do Ballet….. oh yeah, and so can boys.
anon
July 21st, 2017 - 12:18amI am a bit surprised that this conversation is still going on. I see both sides of the fandom’s point of view. And i agree with BOTH of them. I was very shocked to see the Doctor as a woman, but its a change.
Yes its a very late change, but still. I wonder what the new interior of the Tardis will look like and the sonic.
And Booboo, what do you mean by “other issues in play here” comment?
Adam
July 20th, 2017 - 11:40pmYes it’s all very strange..maybe they were expecting a backlash and are waiting for things to simmer down?
Adam
July 20th, 2017 - 11:27pmMaybe they’re having a rethink..
Classic Who now even more better than New Who
July 20th, 2017 - 10:38pmAdmit it Mr Moffat. The Master becoming Missy was a move to make it more acceptable for the Doctor to change from a him to a her. You’ve known for sometime that the 13th Doctor would be female. It’s a gender agenda created between You, Chibnall and especially the BBC.
Neal T.
July 20th, 2017 - 10:35pmThe whole thing has become a socio-political football! Fans who don’t agree with the decision pilloried, the actress slated, the BBC using the whole thing as a way to cover their backsides over lopsided pay structures. Rumors abound about Kris Marshall being the companion! Is this a compensation to him not being the new Doctor, and the BBC caving in to those who wanted a female Doctor to look like they are progressive when they were preempting the pay backlash? Another thing came to mind after reading a new article (by a female journalist, I might add), the Doctor is usually kept on the right track morally and emotionally by a female companion. If that is done with a male companion now will it be considered patronising? The Doctor is a flawed hero, one of the reasons he is loved (we are all seriously flawed, yes male and female!), If this changes when the Doctor is female then it won’t be the Doctor. We will have to wait to see what the writers have in store, I believe Jodie Whittaker will be tremendous in the acting role, but the writing is the key element to make or break it. And if the BBC really want to be hip and progressive…. Use female writers and directors, and remember that you have a larger audience spectrum than the average IQ of a Love Island contestant!!
The Living Shadow
July 20th, 2017 - 9:50pmIt’s over 5 months until her first appearance, and then another few months before Whittaker’s first series as the Doctor. There’s plenty of time for interviews and things later. So far, at most, Whittaker’s only filmed one scene, so I don’t think they’d really have much to say anyway.
R1ch1e
July 20th, 2017 - 9:36pmDo you want Whittaker out?
R1ch1e
July 20th, 2017 - 8:51pmI think, I THINK John Barrowman has just given just given his blessing to the 13th Doctor in his own, very unique John Barrowman way. LOL
Pats86
July 20th, 2017 - 8:42pmAfter my complaint that I sent to the BBC last night I have had a reply, unfortunately it is the one they send everyone (they tell you this) this is the last paragraph…..
We really appreciate your feedback and this has been made available to all the relevant teams in our daily report. We’re aware that Doctor Who has a very passionate audience, and we love hearing all the different opinions as to which episodes, Doctors and companions you prefer. We look forward to hearing from you when the next series airs.
OK so where are all the different opinions? I struggle to find any on BBC media outlets! And I will make sure they do hear from me once the next series starts be it positive or negative.
After today’s news that Jodie Whittaker will get the same pay as Peter Capaldi (and that’s only fair)the more it appears to have been a complete set up on every level including the pay gap of male to female?
The BBC look more incompetent every day.
As others have already mentioned on this site, where are Moffat, Chibnall and Whittaker? After such an outcry they should be out trying to make the peace with fans, not hiding behind the sofa!