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No full Doctor Who Series for 2012 – update
No full 2012 Doctor Who series
From Steven Moffat via twitter…
Dr Who: misquotes and misunderstandings. But I’m not being bounced into announcing the cool stuff before we’re ready. Hush, and patience.
lizo_mzimba said via his twitter feed that “There will not be a full series of Dr Who in 2012! BBC confirms that BBC One Controller said this earlier today”
The news was originally revealed by Wayne Clarke who was at a conference where Danny Cohen was speaking.
This may mean that although 14 new episodes are to be made, they may be spread over 2 years. This may be nothing more than a build up to 2013, the shows 50th anniversary.
He also said: “Worth repeating, BBC says Danny Cohen’s comment that Steven Moffat needed time for Sherlock hence shorter DW run wasn’t meant to be serious.”
later adding “Bit of confusion, to summarise: no FULL 13 episode series of Dr Who in 2012. So some episodes will still go out in 2012. Remainder in 2013.”
Cybertrousers
June 24th, 2011 - 10:22pmI miss RTD. He made Who epic without losing its true spirit. I do fear that once he’s done with Torchwood, we aren’t even going to recognize it. From what I’ve seen of Miracle Day, it looks like that show IS going to lose its identity. I hope not.
Now to The Moff…. Someone mentioned that he is a great writer, but has no business running the series. I somewhat agree. He did screw up the Daleks and I fear that he’s going to twist Doctor Who into such a convoluted mess that it will alienate the casual viewer and seriously hurt the series.
Cybertrousers
June 24th, 2011 - 10:24pmIn reply to some previous posts. Wasn’t trying to get too far off topic.
dalek_control
June 23rd, 2011 - 7:33amI know this seems like a dissapointment, but the way I see it. They’re trying to make the 50th Anniversary year much BIGGER. I guess we’ll just have to be patient
Ian
June 24th, 2011 - 6:08amYes, I think the problem is people have jumped on the negative and arent thinking that this is likely that they dont want to say anything until everything is signed and sealed rather than make promises that may not then happen. Its a real shame though that being dissapointed has led to some to sniping at the show or individuals associated to it.
DoctorWho2011
June 22nd, 2011 - 8:19pmDoctor Who really needs a new writter not steven moffet so not him Russell T. Daves is a better writter than steven but doctor who needs a good writter better than steven moffet and also who teched him to do this to doctor who what a joke this came in
Telwhofan
June 23rd, 2011 - 6:52pmDr Who definitely needs a new production team to take it back to the great programme that RTD made it. There have been far too many changes,and it now looks like a totally different show. There is no doubt that Steven Moffatt wrote some great stories in the RTD era but as exec producer he is responsible for ruining the show. Look at some of the previous finalies… Doomsday, Journey’s End etc. Fantastic,epic stories, great production, excellent performancies. Been trying since start of series 5 to accept it but no…ruined. Sorry.
Anon
June 25th, 2011 - 4:17pmBy the way doomsday wasnt great!it was the worst finale in dw history!
Chris
July 10th, 2011 - 1:52amMark Gatiss could be the only chance we have, or Gareth Roberts. One of these two might be the rightful heir to the series.
Will
June 20th, 2011 - 8:29pmSo mistakes moffat has made since his Dr Who run. (Just my opinions) He ruined the daleks, he made the series 5 finale a total cop out, he sliced series 6 in 2 parts, made the cybermen look really silly, stopped using the daleks and now he’s not even bothering with dr who much. And this is just 2 series. The only mistakes russel t davies made in his 4 series and specials, were the voyage of the damned and the dalek sec hybrid. Russel T really had enthusiasm. Moffat is great at telling stories but running a show he makes too many mistakes.
DoctorWhoFan.co.uk/video
June 25th, 2011 - 3:21pmthen why do you watch doctor who?
Intergalactic
August 10th, 2011 - 10:10amOkay, here’s my view.
“Ruined the Daleks”: He didn’t exactly ruin them, he just redesigned them into different colours to define their ranks. It’s not that bad when you think about it.
“He made the Series 5 finale a total cop-out” – Okay, perhaps it was confusing, but it was quite interesting and epic. We had Autons, Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans and etc. It was a huge finale not to miss.
“Made the Cybermen look really silly” – No he didn’t, he just shown a decayed and rotten Cyberman at the beginning of “The Pandorica Opens”, showing just what happened to him. And in “A Good Man Goes to War” he did hardly anything, he just removed the Cybus logo to a simple round circle. Nothing to worry about.
“Stopped using the Daleks” – He thought they needed a rest, and he’s right in a way. The Daleks have appeared in every series since the revival. Perhaps they’re running out of storylines. But really, do they have to be in every series? Thin about that.
“Now heβs not even bothering with Doctor Who that much” – Well, I can’t really answer that, because that’s his personal business. He may not be focusing much on Who, or may be. I don’t know.
So there, were these helpful? π π
king of whoniverse
November 22nd, 2011 - 7:03amAND THE CHRISTMAS CAROL-DO I NEED TO SAY?
Me
June 19th, 2011 - 11:44amI DON’T GET IT!!!PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS GOING ON?
booboo
June 19th, 2011 - 11:50amat the moment we just dont know, all we know is there will be 14 more episodes spread over 2012 -2013. we dont know why this is of how many will be in each year
Ian
June 19th, 2011 - 2:43pmThis has been an example of how much an ill thought comment can get overanalysed and speculated upon and end up causing a lot of unecessary unrest and upset. I hope Danny Cohen is a bit more sensible about making a joke in the future as he should know that it can lead to misquotes.
Steven wants to announce things when its the right time. What he has to say could well have people being thrilled and excited to see it but instead some are seeing it all as sinister plots and looking for people to blame for things where we dont even know yet if theres an issue. Its kinda like saying “Tell us what you got us for Christmas Steven, tell us, tell us” and if he gives in and says its a shiney new bike having us then all go “Awwwwwwwwww but you’ve spoiled the surprise now”
With luck the hysteria is dying down and lets keep optimistic and wait and see. There will be a reason for it all, and it may be based on practicality and budget but it wont be down to a lack of commitment from anyone on the show.
Doctor Who Fan
June 19th, 2011 - 10:18amI wish they could just keep as a full series with 13 episodes like series 5
DoctorWho2011
June 20th, 2011 - 3:42pmAnd Series 1,2,3 and 4 this is just a joke can’t beleive it its so silly slitting a series for an year
NotADalek
June 18th, 2011 - 2:32pm…what?! This is ridiculous! Way too early for another year that only has a few episodes. Does this mean we have to wait until 2014 until another full series?!? …I think I’m not the only one here who would be glad for someone to say to Steven Moffat “You’re fired.”. Very annoying.
Hector Sandler
June 19th, 2011 - 8:02amDon’t say that, The Doctor should return in 2013 for the 50th Anniversary. Can’t wait till 2013 if that us Dr.Who fan will get very upset π
Intergalactic
August 10th, 2011 - 12:41pmWhat?
peter
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:05amits a shame moffat is a very good writer he is just to suborn and has his own plans witch is fine but when you have to many of them BANG the show is dead and im sorry but I just cant stand Amy or rory i mean gilan and who ever plays rory might be good actors but not in doctor who maby in the rtd era but not the sm era i mean come on. now this is for you mofat take more time on dw that is more important than Sherlock iv seen sherlok its very very good and thats the prolem your taking too much time on sherlock and not enouph time on dw im not even shur you know what hapning to your own snow well mofat wer not all suck ups like den of a geek
Hector Sandler
June 18th, 2011 - 12:15pmDon’t worry it not going be like it was with the Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy era. Remember in 1984 rest After Peter Davidson left role & Colin Baker did first episode in 1984 final episode season. Then few episode then that 18 month rest then his last few episodes then Sylvester McCoy took till the series ended in 1989. But because it on hold till 2013 you will be sure Matt Smith will return.
OOD SIGMA
June 17th, 2011 - 4:43pmThat is pathetic that means everyting we like e.g. merchandise
bob butterworth
June 16th, 2011 - 10:52pmUnfortunately, you now have a boring Dr. Christopher Eccleston was brilliant, a proper actor who could change from funny to horror in the blink of an eye. One of his best reactions was when he sees a Dalek, and evoking terror at the Cybermen. I know, its kids !! but it is not, it worked on many levels, older people got the in jokes, the kids hid behind the sofa. Kids love being scared and all the hissing and boo-ing that goes with it.
David Tenant had the role perfected, a proper ACTOR changing from humor to menace in a heartbeat. I know that real proper actors would love the role, examples being James Nesbitt, Sir Ian McAllen, Simon Pegg, and on, and on, My personal choice would be Benedict Cumberbatch (He would be amazing) with Sheridan Smith as an equal sidekick. if it was not for Sherlock. In fact more or less a lot of famous actors. That is amazing that pro’s want the part. or the assistant, the best being Billie and Katherine. The partnership is central, Tenant’s incarnation loved Billie, then the amazing scripts between Tenant and Tate, Brilliance.
On top of all that the scripts and ideas were brilliant.
One of my favorites was “Blink”, in the hands of the new team any good follow-ups have been totally ruined. Two rubbish episodes destroyed any future potential.
So here we go, obviously the retirement of the writers and production team the brilliant return has ground to a nasty halt.
Matt Smith is terrible (maybe the script, or acting). The sidekicks are un-likeable, the audience has no sympathy or empathy with the cast. Apart from one !. Alex Kingston, a total natural (Another properly trained actress)
Dr who will only stop losing audience with a change. 1) the most important, The doctor played by a RSC proper actor, who is recognizable and likable, 2) a sidekick who he cares about (not short skirted Pond), I think that Billie Pipers family could be a regular feature.
And 3) Lets have some new aliens, take a look at Independence day, District 9, Star Trek, Chronicles of Riddick, and of course the X-Files. You can’t just keep recycling Daleks and Cybermen. Lets have some new planets, by now someone on Earth might have noticed something. In the first of the new 2000’s series he tried to be anonymous. A small point.
Number 4) and to me the most important, a regular spot and friend to the doctor, Bernard Cribbins.
The stories are incomprehensible, why was rory dressed as a roman soldier for ages?
The last 2 episodes were like walking through treacle with Salvador Dali.
Daleks are suddenly made of square gloss plastic.
When the new incarnation started after 20 odd years, with Ecclestone the daleks were dalek shaped and greasy, dirty, oily..i.e. realistic for the 21st century, Si-Fi moves on (How many cleaners are there on the Enterprise ?”)
The audience is going to keep dropping until Russell T Davies returns and it stops going downhill !!!
It may have worked in the 60’s, but recent episodes about beings living in the center of the earth !!!
Waste of the money it takes to make an episode.
Dr Who must move with up to date science and science fiction. “People living at the Earths core for thousands of years”, even a primary school kid had hysterics on that”.
I was always a big fan. Then when Eccelstone and Billie Piper restarted i loved it, It had a lot of competition from America, but inventiveness aside, could not put humor or fun it their progs “Star Trek” and it’s spin-offs. “Third Rock” is a comedy. “Dark skies” no humor !!
The americans love UK humor, thats why Dr Who works.
Hopefully you might read this and take on the points.
I am and have always been a fan of the escaping from the worries and stresses of life to get engrossed in Dr Who.
A huge fan, of an intelligent, fun, ageless, kids and adults sit down together. Great when the kids try to explain what’s happening to the adults.
Please hit restart, with experienced, trained and enthusiastic cast..Everyone wants to play the part.
Please try to keep to A list actors, and don’t let it slide back to egg boxes.
Davros was brilliant, what he turned into at the top of the Empire State Building was rubbber rubbish
Daleks are not square or made of fiberglass.
I know that i am commenting on a sci-fi TV program and an escapist 40 minuets.
But i love it and because of that i can see the downhill slide. I would like to know that the investment from the BBC (i think i pay for that, something called a license) Will put the finance and keep the high quality of one of it’s best selling programs.
Daleks on Ice
June 17th, 2011 - 12:16pmWell the two things id say is dont ever go into being a writer and like many you mistake your opinions as facts and your views as gifted insight. Matt & Karen may not be your cup of tea but they are other peoples & if you dont like Moffat but loved Blink I suggest you check who wrote it.
Sav
June 17th, 2011 - 2:24pmWow… what a pompus post. Seriously. You think an actor has to be an RSC actor to be ‘proper’? Could you be any more narrow minded?
I have to question your “stories are incomprehensible” comment… were you paying attention during the RTD era? Many of those stories were unbelievably far-fetched, complicated and completely ridiculous at times. It is Doctor Who after all… walking skeletons and flying sharks are all part of the fun…
Most people don’t share your opinion. The Mofatt stories are far better planned, acted and executed all round for most people. I know a lot of Doctor Who fans, and most agree the Mofatt/Matt seasons/episodes have been amongst the best (or best) ever, and the 11th Doctor has taken over the favourite spot for many people (even over Tom Baker).
I could go on, but there’s no point. I am sorry that you are not enjoying Doctor Who as it currently stands – but the reality is that you can’t please everyone.
Bree Twee
June 17th, 2011 - 3:07pmIs it really necessary to call Matt terrible? Personally, I find that as far as new series goes, Christopher was the serious one, but great with emotions, David was all-round the best, but I like Matt because he’s fun. Also, the companions are certainly likeable! I for one have a soft spot for Rory, he’s one of my favourite characters. Your commentary is a little over the top, and I think you need to just sit back and enjoy it a little more.
Mels
June 17th, 2011 - 5:02pmI’m sorry to hear that you are not liking the new series. I for one – absolutely love it – so I can’t really sympathise with any of the points you are trying to make…
Anonymous
June 17th, 2011 - 5:17pmI wasn’t alive during the old series, but my dad was and he was a big fan. His favorite doctor was Tom Baker, like many other fans. When Matt Smith came on the scene, his favorite changed. The thing is, he’s apparently so much like the doctor of old that he’s stealing a lot of older fans’ hearts, and even I can sort of get a feel for what those earlier seasons were like through Matt Smith. He’s an absolutely amazing doctor because he brings back a lot of what seems to have been lost through the years, and he does it in amazingly awesome ways.
Dwfan11
June 17th, 2011 - 7:15pmI AGREE With bob butterworth!! well said! I used to look forward to watching dr who when chris and david were the doctor! now its a disapointment and embarrising! i don’t i some one disagrees with my point1 all im sayin 2005 – 2009 was the best seen on tv! best actors, best script and good entertaiment! its like they can’t be bothered to make good episodes anymore! Yes i no people will disagree, Matt is rubbish! no effort’s put into his performance! he says he went to drama school, well that didn’t work! BRING BACK RUSSEL T DAVIES! AND TO GET MORE VIEWS THERE SPREADING OUT EPISODES SO LIKE EVERY MONTH PEOPLE GET EXCITED AND YAY THERES ANOTHER DOCTOR WHO EPISODE! R.I.P DR.WHO 2005-2009
Daleks on Ice
June 17th, 2011 - 8:10pmI tell you what gets me down. Not the delays to the show. Not the misreporting causing this issue. Its “fans” like Bob and Dwfan 11 that seem to thrive on whining about everything on the show. You think Matt can’t act? What show are you watching because it sure as hell isn’t the one I am.
shaneh7647
June 24th, 2011 - 8:24amdid u sit down for like 7 hours and write why cant they just put a hole series on like david tennant series
ray in corby
June 29th, 2011 - 8:57ammatt smith plays the young/old doctor perfectly. think he is good, like amy and rory was dressed as a roman after waiting for amy outside the pandorica. whats not to understand! don’t like splitting the show but just means something to look forward to in the autumn.
dalek eternal
August 21st, 2011 - 7:07pmbob theres nothing wrong with matt smith i like him hes cool and funny and his companions amy and rory are propably my favorite companions ever apart from sarah jane and leela matt smith is not the best dr but he is a good dr i prefer david and tom and i like every single dr there is but i hardly thinks its fair how u are saying matt smith is rubbish and how they should use rsc actors only in dr who
JoeAndTeddy
June 16th, 2011 - 10:04pmVERY dissapointed! What are the BBC playing at? why don’t they take off a show that no one watches? Get another writer! Moffat is terrible! he’s too busy with other things. he’s already split the show into 2 parts, now he’s taking it off air for almost a year. Next, there will be no doctor who at all! I want neil gaiman to write. Moffat is awful and cocky and makes the stories too complicated. We need RTD back, or a new head writer completely.
Joe,
third doctor
June 16th, 2011 - 11:01pmI agree with you Joe, RTD needs to comeback and get doctor who back on track and get a new doctor.
Mels
June 17th, 2011 - 9:26amBreathe! Don’t panic! Mofatt has said that his ‘workload’ hasn’t reduced, meaning that we are getting the usual number of episodes… there may be fewer in 2012.. but extra in 2013.
Why? Don’t know, could be a build up the the Anniversary, or could be due to the BBC rescheduling and have nothing to do with Mofatt at all.
The Moff is doing well with Doctor Who. People are of course entitled to their opinion to think otherwise, but I think Mofatt will give us what we want… but he’s not going to tell us yet. That would be too simple! :p
Ian
June 16th, 2011 - 7:03pmI really sympathise with Steven Moffat here. It is a real shame that Danny Cohen has made these comments and caused a massive outcry. However, sadly, with all this claim and counter-claim and so many people running off with theories that, whether it would have been better to wait and see or not, an official version that Danny and Steven sign up to is needed to stop all this unnecessary argument. A lot of Who fans are younger and will take comments at face value and not pick up that there may be underlaying politics and press editorialism at work.
booboo
June 16th, 2011 - 8:16pmI agree, it would have been better if nothing was said, to much speculation, there is probably a very good reason behind it all that we know nothing about yet
booboo
June 16th, 2011 - 8:26pmAnd the BBC’s own article just published wont help either as i clearly blames Sherlock for the lack of episodes where SM says its nothing to do with it.
Matt
June 16th, 2011 - 7:02pmwell, I don’t mind as long as each episode in 2012 is around the 50 – 60 min mark π
Anthony Harding
June 16th, 2011 - 6:14pmI wonder what people would say that watch Eastenders if that was cut to 1 episode per week for whatever reason.
(I don’t by the way) π
Sort it out BBC.
It’ll end up being a “Starz original production” next!
sam
June 16th, 2011 - 4:30pmIt’s all been a total mess and lame excuses…we lost a season of Merlin this year due to rescheduling of Dr Who? Now we will lose episodes of Who due to Moffat needing more time for Sherlock? Like others, I believe its budgetary cuts that is at the heart of it all…and the best place to start with them would have been the overpaid celebrities who front the inane shows that no-one cares about…the shows that the beeb continue to foister on us…shame on them.
biggest doctor who fan
June 16th, 2011 - 4:26pmI have a few things to pick up about
1)I think somehow they’re trying to take the show off air (1989)
2)Bring back RTD, if stephen moffat’s too busy just leave and let someone else do it.
3)Would like to know if this is official
4)Check a23g156 I don’t go splitting series of dwfa or dwmfa so I’ll keep you all entertained
biggest doctor who fan
June 18th, 2011 - 8:37amoh i also meant youtube
Bill2Hearts
June 16th, 2011 - 12:21pmI believe the plan of the split in the current series is so that Dr Who? is enetually moved to the autumn/winter months where it belongs and will potentually garner more viewers and in the mean time keep the fans happy during the this transition period.
Keep up the good work Steve.
Ian
June 16th, 2011 - 3:43pmIt would make a lot of sense to have it in the autumn and next year is Olympics year and you dont want to have it on the same time as that. I hope that people take a deap breath and calm down a bit as some of the theories going about on the net range from the hysterical to the totally barking. Lets wait and see eh?
reddalek
June 16th, 2011 - 7:21amThe series for 2113 will be a run up to the xmas/ 50th x matt Smith time to finish.
Huchy Kraal
June 16th, 2011 - 2:37amAll seems a lil fishy to me.. Fair enough the Beeb may need to cut spending.. but start cutting off the hand that feeds you.. Look at Paramount & Star trek.. cost $2mill and episode but revenue from marketing & merchandise was put back into producing the show so it paid for itself. Also the show has more than one writer so there shouldn’t be any issues with Steve doing DR & Sherlock.. not like it takes all year to do 13 episodes, most Sci-fi have 25 a season.
Anonymous
June 15th, 2011 - 9:41pmThere will be a series next year, but the implication is that we will get a “special run” in 2013, hopefully an extended series (possibly 20 episodes in number).
terriermon
June 15th, 2011 - 9:41pmif russell t davies was still head writer, none of this would be happening i cant believe theyre doing this, steven moffat is ruining doctor who! he keeps splitting it and making it so confusing!!!!! grr i hate it!!!!
DoctorWho2011
June 16th, 2011 - 7:07amI have to Agree we want russell t davies hes a better writter than steven moffat
Tim
June 16th, 2011 - 7:54amWasn’t RTD the one who skipped an entire year and just sprinkled it with a special here and there?
biggest doctor who fan
June 16th, 2011 - 4:12pmI know he knew how to run the show proplerly we need him him back this os turning in to a tram crash
JK
September 14th, 2011 - 10:18pmIf RTD was still head writer then I’m almost certain this would still be happening.
Matt Smith 11
June 15th, 2011 - 9:02pmSteven Moffat Only wrights 6 episodes a series and all the others are written by other writers so what is the point of cutting the series into 2 years
JOHN
June 15th, 2011 - 8:44pmPLUS, ALL THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT IS MONEY!ABOVE AN AMAZING AND MEANINGFUL SHOW LIKE DOCTOR WHO!!
REALLY ANNOYED………….
Uh Huh
July 1st, 2011 - 6:08amBecause you know, money’s not at all important in creating an incredibly effects heavy scifi show.
KEEP ON YELLING, MAYBE YOU’LL FEEL BETTER.
JOHN
June 15th, 2011 - 8:42pmREALLY, REALLY ANNOYED BY THIS!!!!!!
LOOK AT WHAT THE LAST FEW YEARS OF DOCTOR WHO HAVE BEEN:
2009-GAP YEAR
2010-FULL SERIES
2011-SPLIT SERIES; BUT STILL SAME AMOUNT OF EPISODES
2012-GAP YEAR; AGAIN!!!!!!!
2013-FULL SERIES
THIS IS GETTING PATHETIC-I’LL HELP MAKING IT IF THE CURRENT PRODUCERS ARE NOT CAPABLE!
HOPE THE 2013 SERIES WILL BE DECENT, CONSIDERED THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY.
DoctorWho2011
June 16th, 2011 - 7:09amTell u what Doctor Who is getting worst with all this confussion π‘
the man of 11 lives
June 15th, 2011 - 7:31pmyeah i agree i mean whats the point of watching it if you only have to wait a year they should not have split the series in two i mean for younger kids like myself it is going to be boring to wait a year because you probaly lost the urge to watch it
Andrew Hall
June 15th, 2011 - 8:56pmGet RTD back in. If Moffat cares more about Sherlock then he should step down and let someone in who loves Doctor Who. Hes actually destroying all the good work that Russell did. IM VERY ANGRY ABOUT THIS.
harold saxon
June 15th, 2011 - 6:54pmPossible reasons for SPLIT SEASON 2012/2013 could be piers wegner leaving,costs and karen gillan & arthur darvill being unavailable for a while due to other work.
Anonymous
June 15th, 2011 - 6:41pmApparently most of the episodes are being broadcast in 2012 with the remainder in 2013, I think it may be a red herring and we will be getting an extra long series in 2013 with the extra episodes from what would have been the 2012 series added on to the beginning of the next series. Steven Moffat has said his workload is remaining the same over the two years meaning he is writing the same number of episodes so that would sugest that by the end of 2013 we will have got all 28 episodes we would normally have got but not in an exact split.
DoctorWho2011
June 15th, 2011 - 6:38pmThis sounds like there will be no more doctor who very angry with this cos sometimes they don’t know what they want to do with doctor who this year spilitting it up and this time spiltting the series for 2012 and see the other half next year thats a joke it should be one hole series like series 1,2,3,4 & 5
harold saxon
June 15th, 2011 - 6:29pmwhy would they want to cut back episodes on bbc’s flagship show[better than beatenders!],makes no sense,the beeb make a fortune out of this show in merchandise,dr.who live,dr.who experience! bonkers beeb you owe us,we are loyal fans!
josephdocwhofan
June 15th, 2011 - 5:00pmthis is stupid eventually in a few years they will cut it top one ep a year!!