November 1st, 2014
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What Did You Think of Episode 11 Dark Water?
In the mysterious world of the Nethersphere, plans have been drawn up.
Missy is about to come face to face with the Doctor, and an impossible choice is looming.
“Death is not an end” promises the sinister organisation known only as 3W – but, as the Doctor and Clara discover, you might wish it was.
Now that the 11th episode of series 8 has been aired what did you think? Was it everything you had hoped for or not what you expected…
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ZygonTerror
November 3rd, 2014 - 1:05amNot to give too much away about The Harvest of Time, but when the Sild have all the incarnations of the master, one is a woman so really the idea of Missy has been around before the series came back.
Lee
November 3rd, 2014 - 12:33amTotally agree with The Other Guy.
Sebatron
November 3rd, 2014 - 12:06amMe too! 🙂
Drwho101
November 2nd, 2014 - 8:59pmA way of destroying timelords
Drwho101
November 2nd, 2014 - 8:58pmShe changed genders to hide from the timelords I think
Drwho101
November 2nd, 2014 - 8:57pmMy theory is that the mistress has changed genders to hide from the timelords now out to get her
Kiek
November 2nd, 2014 - 8:54pmMaybe it`s not the first time the master/mistres is female. We havent seen all his/her incarnations.
David
November 2nd, 2014 - 8:28pmYou do realise you are talking about how ridiculous something is in a TV show built around the concept of a box that is actually a spaceship than can travel through time? Yup!
I’d guess that Missy being The Master is a red herring and next week’s finals will reveal she is lying.
The Other Guy
November 2nd, 2014 - 8:22pmThe Master is now a WOMAN.
Dmbest thing to come out of Dr Who since the bertie bassett monster.
Having time lords gender swap makes absolutely no sense what so ever.
Imagine being a time lord. Your married to the woman of your dreams, a few years and a couple of kids later she ups n becomes a guy.
You beautiful wife is now a burly bloke with a beard. And lets not forget how the kids would be effected. Mum for a couple of years, dad number 2 for a few more and then back to being mum again.
They would grow up to be seriously messed up individuals. Not exactly the stuff a guardian of time and space should be.
The most ridiculous idea Moffat has ever come out with. Some body shoot him before he drives DR Who well and truly into the ground.
Other than that, not a bad episode.
The Flying Shark
November 2nd, 2014 - 7:17pmWOW! This episode was absolutely amazing!
Doctor Stu
November 2nd, 2014 - 6:58pmJust watched the episode but it didn’t have as much impact as I accidentally found out who missy was before watching it, hope there’s something that explains what happened to the master after the end of time and also (I’m gonna get hate but…) just because you’ve turned the master female (which I’m fine with) please don’t think this is a good excuse to have the next doctor as a female. It just wouldn’t work the doctor always needs to be a man just as Catwoman always needs to be a woman. Loved the suspense, best acting all series and this is the first time in a couple of years that I’m actually really wanting to see the next episode. This series has been the best in a long while (apart from last weeks mess lets not go there) and I’m looking forward for what’s to come
Drwho101
November 2nd, 2014 - 6:47pmThe master and the doctor have been friends for years since kids,I think it made it a lot more entertaining for me at least
ZygonTerror
November 2nd, 2014 - 6:40pmI know the obvious answer is that Missy is the master incarnation that followed Harold Saxon, but I wonder if this is accurate?
I wonder which incarnation of the Master Missy actually is. Pre or post Yana?
Anonymous
November 2nd, 2014 - 6:31pmShe could’ve worn a disguise if she was the woman in the shop!?!!
Andrew R
November 2nd, 2014 - 6:20pmThis episode had balls!
For me, this felt like an episode I have been waiting for – it had both intimacy and urgency. As events unfolded, it really felt like everything that was happening actually mattered.
The characterisation was unusually raw and the themes were unusually dark and brutal, particularly given the audience. But in a significant shift from the flip, fast paced, one-liner dependent style of most of the Matt Smith era – the writing and execution of the episode never once made light or under-sold the gravity of events as they unfolded.
Taken on her own merits, Missy had all the camp ‘evil genius’ traits of previous incarnations of The Master – brilliantly acted with relish without tipping into total silliness – but also an unusual level of viciousness in her view of the doctor. I totally agree that the change in gender has done something interesting and provocative to the relationship – it feels bruised, broken and somehow more deeply personal. Capaldi’s acting (or, rather, reacting) in these scenes is quite brilliant – he is the Rod Steiger in this scene to Michelle Gonez’s Brando – much less showy, but with a quiet power that really strikes a chord, particularly with repeated viewing.
The first 15 minutes had a real intimacy and took chances with the characters that I appreciated. Clara’s actions were extraordinary, but never once hit a false note. Which is a real testament to both the writing and the acting. Just as impressive – the final 15 minutes gradually built until that freight train of a cliffhanger – which worked not because of the surprise (plenty of people had figured out the plot twists and knew about the Cybermen), but because of the startling execution of this nightmare scenario unfolding as a reality for both the Doctor and Clara before our eyes; and watching them helpless to do anything about it.
I haven’t felt this excited about the next episode of Doctor Who in quite some time.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:49pmAs much as Moffat likes to play the long game with his story arcs, I imagine we will find out next episode.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:48pmAs a fellow Christian and as someone who has a general respect for people’s beliefs, I was also worried. I’m VERY glad that it wasn’t ACTUALLY where people go where they die, AND that it was still handled well within the context of the episode.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:45pmI don’t mind them being overpowered, considering how weak they were in the RTD era after their first appearance.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:43pmStill think that honor goes to Flatline.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:42pmAs overall unimpressed I am with the episode, I think the Mistress (I SERIOUSLY hope she goes by “the Mistress” and not Missy) was one of the best things about the episode.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:40pmI do think the Doctor forgave her waaaay too easily, though.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:39pmI’m still debating whether this series is worse than Series 2. I’m not a huge fan of either. My favorite season of the New Series is still Series 5 by a long shot.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:38pmI haven’t seen enough of Roger Delgado, but personally, my favorite Master is a tie between Peter Pratt and Anthony Ainley.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:37pmLast thing Moffat wrote? Not sure, but I loved almost all of his episodes from The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances to A Good Man Goes To War.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:35pmLepter, how did Moffat turn the Cybermen into robots?? A skull fell out of the remains of a Cybermen that attacked Amy, and they even showed partially converted people in Nightmare in Silver, whereas under Russel T Davies, they were brains in robot suits, and there was, to my knowledge, no sign that they were once human in The Next Doctor other than the Cyberleader having a visible brain. In fact, under RTD, the Daleks gunned down the Cybermen as easily as humans, while they were pretty much unstoppable in Nightmare in Silver.
Dalek The Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:31pmThe Master being female now? Surprisingly… I’m okay with it. It’s been hinted at that Time Lords can switch genders, and since “Missy” largely has been keeping the same basic character, it’s being handled quite well, aside from one aspect. The kiss. Obviously, in the Tenth Doctor era, there was an implied deeper meaning to the relationship between the Doctor and the Master, but it needs more build-up within the context of the episode. Instead of having Missy hang back for most of the episode while the Doctor runs around for no reason, I would have preferred to see interaction between the two. However, I really liked the reveal. There’s also the fact that, even though the dead are already Cybermen, the dead people can STILL feel that they’re being cremated. Another thing, HOW did the Cybermen get all those bodies??? On second thought, scratch that last one, I’m sure they’ll answer that question in the next episode. Also, I’m not sure if I like how easily the Doctor forgave Clara, even though he knew she’d betray him. When Adam betrayed the Doctor’s trust, he took him back home. Even when Rose did the same thing, he chewed her out. Heck, even though the Eleventh Doctor still married her, he yelled at River Song for screwing with the timelines. Here, Clara pretty much shows she’s willing to cut the Doctor off from his home to get him to screw with time, but he just says “Okay, let’s go to where people die and get him back.” I’m all for forgiveness, but honestly, I don’t buy that the Doctor forgave her just like that. I like how they foreshadowed the Cybermen throughout the episode, and even if they weren’t in the next-time trailer, I could have pieced together that they would be turning up. I am worried about they’ll be handled, since they were nearly unstoppable in Nightmare in Silver. We’ll see. It’s always hard to judge a two-parter until both episodes are out.
Dalek Smith
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:30pmAlso, nu-who writes the master in a way that just isn’t who the master is and what he should do
Dalek Smith
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:24pmBecause it hasn’t been written right for the master, compare what we have now to Delgado and Ainley. They are how the master should be. Also, the master snogging the doctor isn’t right at all.
DOCTOR WHO ONE
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:22pmI agree with you totally Ian.
The Moffat Paradox
November 2nd, 2014 - 5:11pmAlso surely risks the after Capaldi let the next Doctor be a woman regardless of wether or not thats a mad idea bandwagon
starting again.
But who knows for sure with Steven Moffat.