October 1st, 2011
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Doc Kal
October 4th, 2011 - 5:42pmtoo many loose ends in the normal reality rather than the alternative, matt smith is great, but needs russell t davies to help moffat to write better stories.
best stories this season were
1 impossible astronaut
2 day of the moon
3 doctors wife
4 let’s kill hitler
5 closing time
6 night terrors
craig owens & donna noble should return to as regular companions & jack in the odd episode just to give the show a bit of character again
the only unpredictable thing in the last episode was a tribute to the brigader, but what about sarah jane the doctors oldest companion.
matt smith is a superb doctor & needs tennent & eccelston style stories to really elevate him as i rate him very highly indeed
oldest question in the universe is DOCTOR WHO?, which is probably the theme of the next series with either river or the tardis giving us the answer or possible a rival timelord (omega) as the symbol has appeared in series 6 several times
let’s hope there are vast improvements
RandomGardener
October 4th, 2011 - 11:41amSo if the Doctor did not tell River Song his name, what did she tell him in the Library that caused him to instantly trust her? It can’t be the ultimate quesstion, he did not know it was at that point.
Did he tell her his name at some other time? Does he know the answer to the question?
Nigelp
October 4th, 2011 - 9:44pmIn the library, River did tell the Doctor his name.
In the week’s episode, he didn’t tell her his name – so that is yet to come. IOW, more River in the future (or is that past?!)
cyberleader199
October 5th, 2011 - 4:46pmpast…..no future…..no past….no future….no past no….im so CONFUESED??!!(.COM)
fredbear5150
October 3rd, 2011 - 10:51pmI’m really liking Matt Smith as the Doctor now even though I didn’t think anyone could equal Tennant. But I feel sorry for him under the writership of Moffat because he has not had good enough stories to really shine in the role.
I really am getting bored with these series-spanning, universe-quaking story arcs, can we NOT just have a season of good “Doctor defeats the monsters” stories?
I understand there will be a 2012 season, I do hope we get a new assistant, Karen Gillen is very pretty and a reasonably good actress but with this “childish” Doctor, you need someone with a little maturity – Catherine Tate would have been perfect playing alongside him.
Still, the signs are that maybe the Doctor is going to be working under a lower profile from this point on so maybe that’s the end of huge story arcs.
Oh, and the last episode failed for me completely. Far too contrived, I thought the tesseract robot thing was a pants idea knicked from a 1970s comic like Whizzer & Chips, and hopefully good riddance to River Song who has totally annoyed the hell out of me since she appeared.
Devilgotchi
October 3rd, 2011 - 10:00pmBlimey, What a load of @#$$# rubbish that was. I want my money back.
Gareth Stafford
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:27pmContinuing the upward trend of the episodes in this series, this episode had some nice references to the past, and a long overdue tribute to the Brig – bit disappointed that the episode wasn’t dedicated to him, but there you go….
Let’s see what Christmas brings….
The Moffat Paradox
October 3rd, 2011 - 4:52pm“Steve moffat saying’all the questions are answered here’when acc not one of them were.”
I agree.What is this? Postmodern scriptwriting?
The patient viewer wants to see a plot that has a coherence, a consistency ,a logic and sensible resolution instead of characters saying “silence will fall when the question is asked” which is unknown.So why should the viewer not just cease caring and switch the channel in angry response?
Explain for example why and how in the “Pandorica Opens” this Silence wants to destroy the universe with the Tardis and how they do it?
Explain or spell out better for example if the girl in the Impossible Astrounaut/Day of the Moon in the spacesuit instead of the adult River is her being prepared for killing the Doctor by this Silence years before she regenerates and becomes the Alex Kingston River?
Explain how if the Silence believes the Doctor is the greatest threat to everything he is any worse than what they attempt to do in The Pandorica Opens.
Throwing everything including the kitchen sink into a series end without grounding in more COHERENT Plotting or thinking your cleverer than you are is an insult to the avid viewer.
lepter
October 3rd, 2011 - 5:43pmmoffet paradox….COMPLETELY AGREE!!
Destroying the universe is real clever. Silence will fall because they made it fall, not the doctor. It is they that are the greatest threat to the universe.
And the lodger tardis. What was that all about?
How did the silent know rory was the man who dies and dies again? He died in the dream lords world, (ie a fictional world) and in the silurian cave, swallowed by the crack that removed all memory of him. How would they know about what happened to him?
Why would the death of a robot be a fixed point?
Why would the doctors death, or preventing the fixed point from happening stop time? It didnt in waters of mars!
Time standing still at 5.02…except it didnt time still passed as one word followed another!!
What was the point of the marriage? They only needed to touch to cancel each other out.
The races said they would help…and NONE DID!
The dalek…another throw away monster like the cybermen in a good man goes to war.
So many lose ends and pointless story threads.
Look at RTD stories. Much better overall.
Anonymous
October 3rd, 2011 - 7:15pmThe answers are:
To kill the Doctor
It was an early attempt to kill the Doctor and they would have succeeded if Amy hadn’t shot it and Melody escaped which wreck their plans.
That is going to be explained when the questtion is answered.
The TARDIS was a piece of equipment used by the SIlence no explanation is given to it’s purpose but that is what it is a sign of.
Because they are telepathic and can see varoius timelines.
Because the SIlence made it one thinking it was teh Doctor who would be killed.
Time is relative.
He wanted to prove to River that he loved her so that they could actually touch, otherwise she wouldn’t do it.
Because they couldn’t get in and it was only to prove a point so the help wasn’t accpeted.
That’s the point, this isn’t a Dalek story, it is just to explain the plot slightly better and set up the Tesselecta’s apperance.
All the answers are in the programme if you pay attention.
Fox Mulder
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:52pmVery Clevwr twist at the end but the episode was Rubbish. That’s my views
Nigelp
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:25pmRiver still doesn’t know the Doctor’s name, so she isn’t married.
Also, she hasn’t been given his sonic screwdriver yet.
This means more River to come.
Fox Mulder
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:57pmYeah more river maybe they will show the doctor and river have a proper emotional romantic moment, the night before she goes to the Libery were she dies. is it me but the doctor doesn’t have feelings for river yet does he.?
Anonymous
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:29pmWell somebody is going to ask him “Doctor Who?” and get an answer at the fields of Trenzalore. Why not River?
matt smithy
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:17pmhold on, in the first series 6 trailer, there was a clip of a naked river song. when did that come into play?
King of the weevils
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:48pmIt was meant to be in the impossible astronaut,as was the Nazis in the POW camp, but was cut. Another thing you may not know is that the doctors line about napoleon(I believe that’s how you spell it) was meant to be in the impossible astronaut but was cut but appeared in last nights episode.
Anonymous
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:55pmIt might not have been, we can’t be certain if the line about Napoleon was edited out of The Impossibel Astronaut or not, or if it was deliberately only in The Wedding of River Song.
King of the weevils
October 2nd, 2011 - 11:02pmAccording to DWM:the eleventh doctor vol 3 the line was originally cut from the impossible astronaut but info about the wedding of river song was probably unknown back when it was being written and researched so yeah could have been a delibrate cut or cut but to be put in this ep instead.
hellosweetie
October 2nd, 2011 - 8:51pmThe wedding of river song was an enjoyable episode but too many loose ends left dangling to be interwoven into the next series.Its been a strange series,didnt like the way the series was aired in two parts,felt like its trying too be too clever for its own good at times and lost some of its humour.I am also beginning to get tired with Amys character.Does anyone know if the christmas special will be just the Doctor or will Amy/Rory be in it as well?I really hope it’ll be a fun,stand alone special with no mention of the silence!
King of the weevils
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:54pmAmy and rory will appear in the Christmas special however judging by the filming pictures and all we know about the plot so far they may not have much to do again apart from be in some kind of danger and mainly focus on the doctor
THE DR
October 2nd, 2011 - 4:21pmRight,it was an ok episode with some questions un-answered but how on earth are you supposed to give away all the answers in one episode.And also the commenters who are saying loads of questions have been un-answered i agree but Doctor Who?hasnt been asnwered for 48 years!!!!!So i dont know what ur complaining about!!!!!!
BRING BACK RUSSEL T BUT KEEP MOFFAT HEAD WRITER!!!!!!!!!!!!(It would be interesting!!!!!!)
me
October 2nd, 2011 - 2:18pmCan someone plz answer these
Is Madame krovian still alive as she only died in the wrong world and at the end river told Amy she isn’t a killer as it didn’t really happen
Why did amy remember she was friends with the doc in the other world and river did aswell and Rory didn’t have a clue he was married to Amy in the other world and didn’t know he knew the doc in the other world but Amy knew they were married and had a child in the other world
Anonymous
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:31pmBecause she grew up with a crack in time in the wall of her bedroom so she can remember things that did not happen and see alternate timelines. Similarly her daughter inherited this from her mother but Rory was unaffected by them.
Zocalo Uk
October 2nd, 2011 - 12:55pmThree things about this episode…
1. Brigadier “tribute” superb.
2. “Doctor Who?” has ALWAYS been the question posed by the show. Nice to have it confirmed…
3. Karen Gillan was HOT in this ep.
Zocalo Uk
October 2nd, 2011 - 12:56pmAmy + Red lipstick + machine gun. Nice!
sheepinafez
October 2nd, 2011 - 2:05pmi agree
King of the weevils
October 2nd, 2011 - 5:03pmI also agree
Anonymous
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:32pmMiss Gillan did not, apparently she felt she wasn’t sexy enough in it.
Makes you wonder what would have happened if they had done it how she wanted.
Anonymous
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:46pmShe didn’t think so.
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
October 2nd, 2011 - 12:12pmjust to day, the music was great, and alex kingston did a stunning performance, and roium was hilarious
King of the weevils
October 2nd, 2011 - 12:32pmI agree it was a great ep but closing time and the girl who waited were my faves with night terrors, the wedding of river song and let’s kill hitler following closely and the god complex being my least fave out of series 6:part 2
TARDIS
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:00pmi love the music at the begining
King of the weevils
October 2nd, 2011 - 11:12pmI take it you’re referring to the music after the previously(which went on for a bit too long but it had “I am the doctor” so I won’t complain) as for the music after the previously that reminds me of something also the music just before the reveal that the soothsayer was the doctor sounded a lot like a variation of “The pandorica” from series 5.
dr who
October 6th, 2011 - 4:23pmhated it
TARDIS
October 6th, 2011 - 4:59pmno the music that starts when it say 5:02pm
King of the weevils
October 8th, 2011 - 6:39pmThat’s the music I was talking about. Only the very end of it features a bit which sounds like “the pandorica” but turns out that was in let’s kill hitler.
BOOBOO JR
October 2nd, 2011 - 12:08pmWait a sec, if the Doctor had to die for the time to go back to the way it should be, how come it did? The Doctor didn’t die, it was the Teselecta that was shot? Can someone help!
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
October 2nd, 2011 - 12:12pmi thought the same!
BOOBOO JR
October 2nd, 2011 - 6:39pmSo can anyone help?
matt smithy
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:15pmyes. It waasn’t a fixed point that the doctor was killed (as well all thought for the hole series), it was a fixed point that the teselecter was shot.
mollusc man
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:21pmI think it’s because it was never the doctor in the first place. The silence ‘created the fixed point in time by performing the act at lake silencio, a ‘still’ point in time. As it was never the doctor in the first place, they created the fixed point around the tessellector’s death, not the doctor’s.
I think. 🙂
CG
October 2nd, 2011 - 11:17pmHow did the tessellector start to regenerate? In the impossible Astronaut it clearly starts to regenerate. But in the wedding it does not.
I don’t think Mr. Moffat thought this through at all.
matt smithy
October 3rd, 2011 - 6:44amme nether. my exuse is that it was an effect
lepter
October 3rd, 2011 - 5:29pmfixed points?? Wasnt the mars base leaders death on mars in waters of mars a fixed point? She didnt die on mars yet time didnt stop then. She died on earth instead. Why didnt the fixed point just move. Why was the doctors death a fixed point at all? Why is he SSOOO important that Time stops if he doesnt die???
Why would a robots death be a fixed point? That makes even less sense!
matt smithy
October 3rd, 2011 - 6:02pmok, explaniation time.
there are things that must always happen, and some miner things that don’t make much differecnce.
the things that must always happen are things that make a big deal too history ex: the eruption at pompeii ext..they are “fixed points”
the miner things are things that don’t make a huge difference if they are changed. like the mars thing, if it did not explode, then the thing from this ep would happpen. but it exploded still. the only differece was that some people survived.
now, everyone thought that the doctor died at lake silencio, and on outher planets it would proberbly be history (makeing it a fixed point). if the doctor did not die, then this would happen. now, just because it was a robot does not meen it is not a fixed point.that would be like saying “it wouldn’t matter if R2D2 died in the first movie because he is a robot”. R2 had a big roll to play in the next movies. if R2 did die, a load of things would have happened differently and time would be confusing.
does that help you? hope it didn’t confuse you 🙂
gordon
October 2nd, 2011 - 11:33amMoffat to go? NO WAY! If moffat goes we will get no answers. I do find you wont really be able to define his series until his era ends when we have all the info
Thetasigma
October 2nd, 2011 - 3:45pmBut thats just the point ! I dont think we’ll ever get all the answers and that IS the definition of the Moff Era !
Fox Mulder
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:53pmIf the Moffat goes I’ll be having a party
Fox Mulder
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:54pmIf Moffat leaves I hope Matt goes with him
Anonymous
October 2nd, 2011 - 11:09pmPatience is a virtue. This is exactly why we are stuck with so many one parters because everyone wants to be spoon fed the answers and can’t wait a year or four for a plot arc to finish.
47
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:48amDreadful. Self indulgent writing and predictable. The sooner the programme moves away from River Song, Rory and the increasingly vexing Amy and the whole universe, and beyond (!), evolving and revolving around them and the Doctor the better.
Best episodes were the opening two-parter, Night Terrors and Closing Time, I hope the series moves forward with the arc set up at the end of series.
Jim
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:21pmVery disappointed at how Amy showed up guns-a-blazing rat-a-tatting at the Silence and then murdered Kovarian. Doctor Who is now glorifying violence. The 30 second guilt at the end doesn’t make it better. Rory saw Amy kill Kovarian and was clearly troubled by it, but did nothing to stop it. This sends a bad message to kids to stand by and say nothing when their friends commit an evil act. Moffat has to go before he ruins the morality of Doctor Who any more and makes it more and more like an “action” series instead of drama. This is not even getting to all the needlessly confusing plot strands. Someone like Gareth Roberts should take over who is more grounded in character-based writing and morality (killing the Cybermen with love — much better than the guns), or bring back RTD.
Jim
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:26pmP.S. I also loved “Night Terrors” and “ClosingT Time.” I think they were my favorite episodes of the season because they were actually about something — a father always loving his child no matter what. Although it is troubling that there were hardly any women in either episode. Doctor Who does not write women characters well under Moffat. Rory I am okay with when the show doesn’t show him as just another “tough guy” killing things, but the Amy/River stuff has definitely ruined the show.
Fox Mulder
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:55pmIt was god awful but the twist at the end was epic
me
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:19amThe fields of trensalor ( however you spell it) will be the 50 th anniversary because it says the fall of the 11 th ( doctor )
Who agrees
King of the weevils
October 2nd, 2011 - 11:24pmIt might not be. Smith is currently signed till 2013 which doesn’t mean he will leave then as he once stated he wanted to beat tom bakers run as the doctor and do at least 8 years so we may not be at the fields of trenzalor till 2018
sheepinafez
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:33amamazing episode up until the end well done moffat you made them get marryed just as evryone predicted would happen after the libry episode but hay hopefully thats the last were gonna see of river shes getting boring now
mollusc man
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:26pmAhh. But did they actually get married? That was an aborted timeline, firstly, and then there’s the fact that the doctor didn’t tell her his name.
Mr Moffat is not finished with river song just yet i’m afraid.
The Supreme
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:30amIt was all right but i was expecting more
Ryuko
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:14amMy parents and I really enjoyed this episode! Dad’s been following the Doctor forever and he’s quite excited about the question “Doctor Who?” It’s reminiscent of the 7th doctor, where it was implied several times that he has this magnificent identity but will not tell anyone or let anyone else know – except for a select few, obviously. In any case, exploring that again should be fun!
Some episodes confused and disappointed, but overall I’ve enjoyed this series. Matt Smith has quickly become one of my favorite doctors! 😀 Looking forward to what will come next!
Jason doctorwhoone
October 2nd, 2011 - 8:08amI had a damn good feeling it was the Tesilector [ sorry if ive spelled it wrong ] that would end up being shot by River rather then the Doctor himself, seemed obvious to me since ” Let’s kill Hitler ” was broadcast.
mollusc man
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:34pmI was really suprised by tessellector reveal. Maybe because it was so simple when i was expecting something massively convoluted and mad.
Or maybe i’m just stupid. 🙁
Last of theTimelords
October 2nd, 2011 - 3:02amWait did the Doctor reveal his name!?Can someone tell me if he did or not!?
jedi jim
October 2nd, 2011 - 3:15amonly to river
dalek eternal
October 2nd, 2011 - 7:31amno he said look in my eye
cyberleader199
October 3rd, 2011 - 5:14pmremember rule one:the doctor lies………….
Jimbocurns
October 2nd, 2011 - 1:23amI thought the episode was exciting but they left themselve having to put too much into a 45 minute episode. I wish they would make the final episode a double whammy, as that story could have been awsome.
I would have loved to have seen more aliens pick up the fight, perhaps an actual wedding on a cool world.
I loved the way the silence attacked but a final battle after a bit more being revealed about them would have been cool.
All in all I enjoyed it but 45mins was not enough time to say everything they wanted to say.
torchwoodfan101
October 1st, 2011 - 11:50pmIf its called The WEDDING of River Song, all she did was tie hand up with a bow tie and kiss the teselecta.
karen
October 2nd, 2011 - 7:05amYou are thinking Christian wedding. Lots of cultures use tying two hands together as a sign of union.
sheepinafez
October 2nd, 2011 - 9:28ambut she still kissed a teseleca
jedi jim
October 2nd, 2011 - 4:23pmBut the Doctor was in the teselecta, besides, have you never heard of a proxy marriage?
Anonymous
October 2nd, 2011 - 11:28pmThat is a genuine type of wedding. In fact it’s where we get the term “tying the knot” from.
Jonathan
October 1st, 2011 - 11:11pmWhere was the Wedding?
River Song was great as always and the Brig tribute was sweet but the only down side was Madame Koverian wasn’t used as much as I wanted her too
me
October 2nd, 2011 - 10:14amBut she will be back as she only died in the other universe so tn the real universe she is alive
But were all the army men madame krovians or amy and river and Rory and took over
Joanthan
October 2nd, 2011 - 4:35pmI think they took them over
doctor dave!
October 1st, 2011 - 11:00pmthis series was werid in many,many ways they had times were it was just brilliant ,this episode was good but they’ve made so complicated that half of the time you just dont know whats going on,steve moffat saying’all the questions are answered here’when acc not one of them were,still this question of the sience but its obv the questions ‘whats the doctors name’after dorium at the end dr who dr who dr who??????
Will
October 1st, 2011 - 10:51pmmost underwhelming series since 2005’s comeback. perhaps the absence of any dalek action has left me unsatisfied. This series was weak. You could barely see anything it was so dark, looked low budget (apart from the few seconds where you see london in the collided timeline in the finale) and there were barely any good classic monsters.
The Master
October 1st, 2011 - 10:20pmBooboo update the timeline!
Unknowledgable_Noob
October 1st, 2011 - 10:23pmthis being…?
booboo
October 1st, 2011 - 10:28pmhttp://www.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk/features/river-songs-diary/
Unknowledgable_Noob
October 1st, 2011 - 10:48pmthat….is impressive.
simon w
October 1st, 2011 - 10:05pma brillient episode. There are still loads of questions left unanswered from season 5.
Like
1 What was up on the second floor in amy’s house on the out side u can see the ground and first floors and not a second flood.
2 What made the markings on the ground outside amy’s house.
3 Who take control of the tardis when River was in it when we heared Silence will fall and then it blows up.
4 in leadworth there is a duckpond without any ducks on it.
thats my rant done lol. I hope we see River again in the next could off seasons. roll on christmas.
doctor dave!
October 1st, 2011 - 10:53pm1.) they couldnt really be bothered to pitch that in
2.)it was demons run
3.)the silence
4.)the cracks in time
mollusc man
October 1st, 2011 - 10:04pmThis has been very much a ‘marmite’ series. You either thought it was the best series ever or the worst thing ever to grace British television.
I have to agree with the former. Every episode, bar one, has been a joy to watch and i especially loved this one.
Damn you ‘curse of the black spot’
Thetasigma
October 1st, 2011 - 10:15pmAnd yet ironically, COTBS Was the ONLY ep I really liked in this series ! Tonights ep was rubbish and left WAY too much undone and too many questions still needing answers. Time for the Moff to go now I think !