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Pats86
July 26th, 2017 - 8:44amNow that would be worth watching, excellent idea.
The Moffat Paradox
July 26th, 2017 - 8:43amAnd it should be more established horses for courses between the genders. We can’t imagine the original Alien movies without the STRONG female character of Ellen Ripley played by Sirgourney Weaver because that was a character that was originally established as female and developed for in the sequels in a way that was JUST RIGHT for the story.
PC considerations had nothing to do with it.Same goes for Linda Hamiton/ Lena Headey/Emilia Clarke as Sarah Connor in the Terminator franchise.
R1ch1e
July 26th, 2017 - 6:36amRegarding the ratings, I’ve read that they may spike for the first episode of series 11 and then drop later but I really don’t think they will be that good from the start. Nothing to do with casting or production it just that ratings for everything are generally awful anyway with the exception of X Factor and Britain’s got Talent finals.
Peter Capaldi is the finest Doctor this age but even then it only averaged 3 million overnight. So whether it’s brilliant or not the ratings really won’t get much better than that.
R1ch1e
July 26th, 2017 - 6:28amThat would be awesome. The Dalek Master plan would be so good
The Moffat Paradox
July 26th, 2017 - 1:52amWith David Bradley playing the first Doctor( what I and others would consider to be an incarnation of the real Doctor through to Capaldi) in the Christmas special it’s got me thinking why doesn’t the BBC get David Bradley(for as long as he in his 70’s is up to it) and Reece Shearsmith who played Patrick Troughton in an “An Adverture In Space And Time” to do remakes of stories where episodes are missing from the Hartnell and Troughton eras?
The Voice of Reason
July 26th, 2017 - 12:40amDo you know what’s so wrong about this casting? Its that Chibnall actively only auditioned women for this role, we knew way back in February that Olivia Coleman was approached but turned it down. This means that Chibnall and the BBC purposely casted Whittaker as a second choice and also because she’s a women, so this whole thing is (whether femenazis and SJWs like it or not) a gimmick and it stinks of political correctness right from the get-go.
I know it sounds awful but I cant give her chance because of what she represents; she doesn’t represent what women can do and how brilliant they are because she is in a MALE’s role, she doesn’t represent the best choice available for the thirteenth Doctor because there were far better options available (i.e. Kris Marshal, Paterson Joseph and David Threllfall), she represents a gimmick to depict equality and I will not see my childhood hero in that way, I just wont.
I wont be tuning in next year, not because I hate Whittaker or women, but because of HOW Chibnall has selected his first (and I guarantee you last) Doctor. To be honest though, I reckon she will get a second series because of how fans will be interested to see what her Doctor is like in series 11, but series 12 will be the final series of New Who because those ratings will go into free fall. Its a shame that I kind of want this to happen to be honest, so that someone with fresh but sensible ideas like RTD can give the show new life in the future and find away around not just this terrible mistake but maybe Moffat’s era of Doctor Who as well. RIP Doctor Who 1963-2017
Adam
July 25th, 2017 - 10:33pmIf only Peter Davison was in charge at the BBC…he’d have commissioned ‘The Doctor’s Daughter’ so all young girls everywhere would have their own Time Lady heroine to look up to…and young boys and old farts like me would still have our Timelord hero.Yes..the Doctor Who cosmos would be a happy and peaceful place if sensible Peter were in charge…
T.A
July 25th, 2017 - 8:48pmWe don’t know if the first doctor had regeneration engery because it was in black and white so it’s not a big thing.
booboo
July 25th, 2017 - 8:34pmand was subsequently driven off twitter for being about the only sensible voice in all of this.
Mrs Davros
July 25th, 2017 - 8:32pmDavros could change his gender the same way as humans do, surgery and tablets. So he could still become a she, if Chibnall wished it.
The Temporal Jelly Baby
July 25th, 2017 - 8:26pmMrs Davros, that would be a different issue since Davros cannot regenerate and change his whole appearance whereas Time Lords can and do. To use other examples I’ve seen, the same applies to James Bond and Wonder Woman. Changing the gender of either of them would be a bit strange but the Doctor (and other Time Lords) is a different case entirely and should be judged that way (whether for better or for worse).
But I do agree that Moffat’s comment is a bit disdainful. Well, either that or ignorant. As Peter Davison said, “it might be more helpful to be encouraging, and not simply scornful, of fans who are uncertain about change.”
Pats86
July 25th, 2017 - 6:52pmThat’s my answer Chris, but the reason I complained is all down below on posts somewhere.
Pats86
July 25th, 2017 - 6:51pmIn an ideal world an apology for screwing up a great show!
Mrs Davros
July 25th, 2017 - 5:17pmI called myself Mrs Davros because I wouldn’t be surprised if Chibnall continues Moffats gender agenda, and gives Davros a change of gender too!
Stop that TARDIS
July 25th, 2017 - 3:37pmWell Sixth has never been a fan favourite anyway…
Chris
July 25th, 2017 - 2:30pmHi Pats86, out of curiosity what would you like the BBC’s response to be?
R1ch1e
July 25th, 2017 - 2:07pmI had exactly the same response from the BBC but I’m afraid that I didn’t complain! I do agree that Moffat was out of order, in fact I’m so ashamed of him right now. People against this change are very outspoken and MUST be entitled their opinion! Belittling people because of their views is an absolute no no!! Fans are fans!
Mrs Davros (absolutely the best name on here by the way) i share your concern but I don’t think that even Moffat would stoop so low as to tread on the legacy of the very first regeneration! The actual concept fair cuddles the blood! The Tenth Planet is one of my favorites EVER and I would never be able to watch it the same way again!
Pats86
July 25th, 2017 - 1:37pmYour not wrong, he is obsessed with ruining the show or it looks like that to me. The more I think about it the more I don’t want to watch, I’m torn as to what to do.
I was angry with the initial announcement but after his latest comments? I can’t forgive him for them, that man is no fan of the show, his agenda and comments prove this.
Mrs Davros
July 25th, 2017 - 10:39amMoffat is fueling the fire. I dread how much he could damage ‘classic’ Who before he leaves. The 1st Doctor with a firework glowing hand!!! What’s happening next?…The 1st Doctor standing up, arms outstretched and regenerating into the 2nd Doctor, differently to events seen in ‘The Tenth Planet’?
Adam
July 25th, 2017 - 12:57amIs Moffat suffering from ‘Donald Trump’ syndrome..It’s all ‘fake news’ people!
The Prydonian
July 24th, 2017 - 11:20pmSpot on Pats86
Pats86
July 24th, 2017 - 9:50pmIn my reply from the BBC complaints department they said they a unable to reply to all the emails on a one to one because they have had an unprecedented amount of correspondence, so how many complaints have the BBC had? They do send an email they forward to all complaints on this issue.
I feel extremely angry with Moffat the BBC and Chibnall yet again, I had calmed down but this honestly makes me want to stick to fingers up at them and stop watching! I can’t believe the gaul of the man, talk about being a patronising arrogant #+^€.
I simply cannot believe what he has said at comic con!
The Moffat Paradox
July 24th, 2017 - 8:53pmThe 80% supposedly refers to Twitter and we can all play the numbers game to support our argument; just like in politics. Even if that claim is verifiable if we include YouTube (What people comment as opposed to just upload )and other sites like this one no way is there such an emphatic endorsement.
And as with opinion polls as we’ve recently seen it’s the numbers where it counts that matters; in this case viewing figures beyond the first couple of episodes of Series 11.
Gravy6
July 24th, 2017 - 7:51pmIt’s odd they didn’t leave it as surprise on the day. Let’s face it, even if it had leaked beforehand no-one would have really believed it. So maybe it is that whole gender pay gap ‘thing’. Or perhaps, they were worried about the shock having people choke on their yule log?.
Pats86
July 24th, 2017 - 7:34pmThis is part of what he said….
“There has been no backlash at all. The story of the moment is that the notionally conservative Doctor Who fandom has utterly embraced that change completely — 80% approval on social media, not that I check these things obsessively. And yet so many people wanted to pretend there’s a problem. There isn’t.”
WHAT? Where is he looking?
R1ch1e
July 24th, 2017 - 7:12pmAgreed! It’s a disgrace! Steven Moffat has not done himself any favors by being as harsh as that at all!
booboo
July 24th, 2017 - 6:57pmthe whole episode has turned into something far removed from the show itself.
I have seen those who have taken a most sensible approach being hounded from both sides.
To me what’s happening around social media and behaviour from other quarters is far worse than casting a female Doctor
Gravy6
July 24th, 2017 - 6:44pmDidn’t he say that journalists even asking the question about a backlash should shut the hell up?
Arrogance yes-but I wonder if it’s mainly panic. After putting heart and soul into the writing of his final episode, it may now be dawning on him that Chibnall’s imminent two page addition could see a mass boycott.
The Moffat Paradox
July 24th, 2017 - 5:21pmMoffat’s appeared with Peter Capaldi at SDCC ,says casting decison was entirely Chibnall’s sidestepping how he made it possible and typicallv dismissing anyone that dissents as “tiny minority”.How arrogant as well as distoring of a sharper divide.
Chris
July 24th, 2017 - 10:57amI’m not calling anyone with genuine concerns and worries sexist – but a lot of people seem to be attacking SJW’s and a PC Brigade for absolutely no reason – because it’s easy to attack a ‘group’ that doesn’t exist who believe in equality and change? Somebody else wrote in another comment (I can’t be bothered to go and find it) that they would rather have a Doctor in 10 years time after this series ends. So they would prefer their favourite series to end, instead of having a female doctor as part of the genuine chronology!! That remark is plain weird to me because as a fan I want the show to grow and evolve, not to end and get rebooted with a whole new backstory and agenda!