Doctor Who News
July 9th, 2015
Here is the order and regenerations of the master
William-0 regen 1st body
Roger-11th regen 12th body
Pete/Geoffrey/Anthony/Eric-12th regen 13th body the last two stolen 1st set finishes
Alex-new set begins 13th regen/resurrection for time war 14th body
Derek-14th regen 15th body
John 15th regen 16th body
Michelle 16th regen 17th body
Of course. I forgot the big finish stuff. One day I should listen to those. Forgive my ignorance but how could the 8th Doctor face off against the Master(Alex) yet be surprised at the resurrection of the Master(Derek/John) as the 10th? Is it part of the War Doctor’s amnesia or yet to be explained?
Alex MacQueen is the War Incarnation and he never crossed paths with the War Doctor but War Doc knew he was there in the War they had different battleplans Master was to defend the Cruciform and he also had a destroy Gallifrey button and Doctor had to protect the Gallifrey city Arcadia and he had the Moment Device on polar oppisites on Gallifrey
Nope. More confused now. The War Doctor DID know the Master had been resurrected(even if they didn’t meet)? Both 9 & 10 remembered the Time War. Therefore 10 shouldn’t have been quite so surprised in Utopia etc. I thought the only memories lost to the War Doctor as he regenerated were the events AFTER he decided to activate the Moment.
Ok, can I sort something out about the masters timeline to see if I’ve got it right or not….professor Yana regenerated into the Master and then the master was killed, he was then resurrected by his creepy wife and then dragged back to gallifrey by the time lords where he presumably died in the time war when gallifrey was destroyed BUT the three doctors saved gallifrey and froze it thus moving it somewhere else and freeing the timelock which therefore allowed the master to escape and somewhere along the line he regenerated into Missy is this right?…
Pretty much sounds right
Sorry to get all technical here, but…
Mrs Saxon actually tried to stop a creepy cult from resurrecting him fully.
She failed from stop him from coming back, but did make him degenerate, which is why in the End of Time you can sometime see his skull, he can shoot beams of electricity and needs to eat.
Hope that helped!
Yeah but tbh Lucy Saxon did resurrect the master against her will so even though she tried to stop them it was her DNA that allowed him to come back.
DOCTOR WHO ONE
Doctor Who Magazine 489 [September 2015 issue] states that the classic Dalek featured in the trailer is a 1960’s style version.
So, sorry to anyone who I’ve said is wrong whenever they’ve said to me it looks like a 60’s Dalek and not, as I’ve been saying, a 70’s version, but to be fair, you can’t see the classic Dalek properly from top to bottom, just the dome, and to me, it really does look like a 1974 ‘Death to the Daleks’ version because it looks to me that it has a silver dome and orange lights just like the ones from the aforementioned story.
Anyway, let’s not having an argument about who was right and who was wrong, cos I’m fed up arguing with people at times, just accept I was wrong and that I acknowledge that I was wrong and leave it at that.
Still, at least we get to see a classic Dalek this series . . .. or perhaps, maybe more then just the one 😀
The biggest difference between a 60’s type and the 1974 variant is the 1974 variant has a pupil in the eye stalk. The one in the trailer doesn’t. But, credit where it’s due, the 1974 dalek is to all intents and purposes a 60’s dalek with the wrong colour of hemisphere 😉 (Blue forever!)
Yeah, I am aware 70’s Daleks have a pupil in the eye stalk along with their 80’s incarnations, but in fairness, we really can’t see the classic Dalek in the background clearly, so it may have a pupil in the eye stalk really, it’s just a bit of a blur to notice it.
Still, we’ll find out which 60’s Dalek it maybe, since they did change a little in the early days of Doctor Who.
Just thought i’d share pointless knowledge:
Only 1 death dalek had orange lights
all the chase/masterplan/power/evil daleks had orange lights
hartnell era daleks had different guns to troughton ones (this design was used for the rest of the classic daleks pretty much)
I wonder if Steven Moffat asked John Simm to return as The Master?
I doubt it, but I do believe the hooded, and horribly disfigured character in image 11 could be a version of John Simm’s Master whose decaying or dying, like the Masters we saw in The Deadly Assassin and The Keeper of Traken. Also, if you notice in image 12, it looks like the planet Karn, as the landscape is very similar to what we saw in The Night of the Doctor. Plus, there’s red cloaked figures around so they are obviously the Sisterhood of Karn. Anyhow, Clare Higgins who previously played Ohila, a member of the Sisterhood of Karn in Night of the Doctor is confirmed to appear in the opener. So we might see the Master escape from Gallifrey to the planet Karn and see him do what the 8th Doctor did, but instead get a new regeneration cycle and watch his regeneration into a woman!
Are you suggesting Missy is the 27th Master? The decaying Master of old was the 13th, clinging on to life as he sought a means to carry on, eventually possessing Tremas & then the paramedic in the movie. Unless the John Simm Master burnt through a load of regenerations due to his glowing skeleton thing. Or, I suppose, the reason he refused to regenerate might be he could not (as he was already at 13) & that’s why he had the back up plan. I was just under the impression he took one look at the time war after being resurrected & ran, making “Professor Yana” the 1st new Master (or 14th in total) & John Simm the 2nd.
I’m hoping for two questions to be answered at some point.
Is the ring an acknowledgement (finally) of one (or more) of the Doctor’s marriages? Or is it, perhaps, another way to keep people from becoming attached to him? I’ve been wondering since I spotted it at the end of deep breath.
Also… What is the nature of the Doctor’s extra regeneration? Is it a single one donated to facilitate the return of Gallifrey, a full cycle of 13 or is it an eternal cycle? The Doctor suggests the latter in to kill the moon. I think immortality is an ability of Rassilon, who I suspect may hold a grudge & might enjoy the thought of eternity to gain vengeance. Finding Gallifrey might complicate things for the Doctor…
It’s never been said why the 12th Doctor wears a ring. The only Doctor’s to have worn rings before him are 1,2 and 3.
Case you don’t know already, Peter Capaldi is a married man, and it’s said he refused to take his wedding ring off, so the props department made a ring with a jewel or diamond feature you see on top of it, and that ring is worn next to his wedding ring, but it blends in seamlessly making it look like one ring when in fact Peter is wearing two on the same finger.
Capaldi’s Doctor is, and I know a lot of fan’s will tell me I’m wrong, yet still a lot of fan’s on Deviant Art actually also believe this to be true, is that his Doctor is the 14th Doctor. Capaldi’s Doctor is the first of a new regeneration cycle, as Matt Smith’s was really the 13th and final incarnation of the original Doctors.
William Hartnell – The 1st Doctor [1963 to 1966]
Patrick Troughton – The 2nd Doctor [1966 to 1969]
Jon Pertwee – The 3rd Doctor [1970 to 1974]
Tom Baker – the 4th Doctor [ 1974 to 1981]
Peter Davison – The 5th Doctor [1982 to 1984]
Colin Baker – The 6th Doctor [ 1984 to 1986]
Sylvester McCoy – The 7th Doctor [1987 to 1989, plus 1996 in the TV Movie]
Paul McGann – The 8th Doctor [1996 TV Movie only, shown regenerating in 2013 mini-sode ‘The Night of the Doctor’]
John Hurt – The 9th Doctor [2013 in mini-sode ‘The Night of the Doctor’, shown starting to regenerate in ‘The Day of the Doctor’]
Christopher Eccleston – The 10th Doctor 
David Tennant – The 11th Doctor [2005 to 2008]
David Tennant – The 12th Doctor [2008 to 2010]
Matt Smith – The 13th Doctor [2010 to 2013]
Peter Capaldi – The 14th Doctor [2013 – Present Day]
Yeah, Capaldi is the TWELFTH Doctor but he is actually the fourteenth! As Hurt’s Doctor was in fact the ninth, making Eccleston the tenth and Tennant the eleventh, also the twelfth because he regenerated in the Stolen Earth. So that makes Matt Smith, the thirteenth and final Doctor and anyway, in Time of the Doctor, the Doctor did say to Clara he was in fact the thirteenth and final one.
Exactly CJ, that’s it exactly 🙂
1st Doctor – An Unearthly Child / The Tenth Planet
2nd Doctor – Power of the Daleks / The War Games
3rd Doctor – Spearhead from Space / Planet of the Spiders
4th Doctor – Robot / Logopolis
5th Doctor – Castrovalva / The Caves of Androzarni
6th Doctor – The Twin Dilemma / The Trial of a Time Lord
7th Doctor – Time and the Rani / Survival + TV Movie
8th Doctor – TV Movie / The Night of the Doctor
9th [War] Doctor – The Night of the Doctor / The Day of the Doctor
10th [9th] Doctor – Rose / The Parting of the Ways
11th [10th] Doctor – The Christmas Invasion / The Stolen Earth
12th [10th] Doctor – Journey’s End / The End of Time
13th [11th] Doctor – The Eleventh Hour / The Time of the Doctor
14th [12th] Doctor – Deep Breath.
The Meta-Crisis Doctor off course is not included as he is an off shoot of the original 10th Doctor [the real 11th Doctor from ‘The Christmas Invasion’ to ‘The Stolen Earth], I know, it’s very confusing, blame Moffat, he made it confusing for all of us 🙂
Indeed CJ, nice that you understand compared to those who don’t. Man the amount of arguments I’ve had on Deviant Art about how there can be 14 Doctor, and some fan’s on the aforementioned site do agree with me and tell me to ignore those who don’t understand how there IS 14 Doctors 🙂
Regardless of the behind the scenes reasons, the ring only appeared after the Doctor flew off, redecorated the Tardis & chose his outfit. It may mean nothing in story terms but has made me curious.
Yes, I know the 12th is the 14th. Clara asked the crack in the wall for help but who responded & on what terms? Still, if there’s a Gallifrey or Karn story there might be some clues soon.
I really hope at some point they make a Weeping Angels origin story. We know things about them already, but we dont know how they were created, why the appear to look like women or even their home planet.
I completely agree with you!
I think they’re better being mysterious.
Its just one of those things ive wondered since Blink, then forgot about it till Time of the Angels/Flesh and Stone.
They are one of my favorite monsters, the weirdest part is… I have a flippin phobia of statues! I know, craaaazzzzyyyy lol
65 DAYS TO GO.
Plenty of time for re-watching series 8 and ‘Last Christmas’.
Hell, it’s even enough time for someone new to Doctor Who to watch all 8 previous new series, Christmas Specials and the 2009 / 2010 Specials before series 9 starts if they wanted too, in fact, someone on the website Deviant Art told me last week they got into Doctor Who watching series 1 on Netflix and they love the show already, so I told them to enjoy watching series 2 to 8 before series 9 begins 😀
My theory for Maisie’s character:
The Rani – a new regeneration of the Time Lady.
Romana – same as the Rani.
Susan Foreman – Granddaughter of the Doctor.
New character – The Doctor’s Daughter.
Jenny – The Doctors daughter from the machine (series 4).
New character – the Doctor’s son (time lords may have citizens who are males but have a female body.
Harriet Jones – as a young woman and before the Daleks murdered her.
Lorna Bucket – the woman from a good man goes to war.
River Song – before she regenerated into the little girl in new york (Mels did say last time she changed she “ended up a toddler in new york).
New character – The Doctor’s mum, sister, father or brother (male time lords may take a female shape).
Clara Oswald – another echo thats not been shown yet.
New character – Rose Tyler and the Human 10th Doctor’ daughter.
These are just some of my own theories and ideas, but left to Steven Moffat, it will probably be one of those storylines that dont always make sense.
Also, if you dont like any of my ideas, please dont start trolling me.
I personally would like to know who Booboo thinks she may be.
blink and you still alive
Well left to steven moffat, it could even be a new version of one of the many villains, personally, doctor who needs a new lead showrunner, as steven’s stories rarely make any sense.
Seriously, people are still complaining about Moffat and wanting a new showrunner? 🙄
Yes CJ, they are, but as everyone knows, people are entitled to their own opinions. I personally have loved some of his episodes (empty child, doctor dances, girl in the fireplace and blink).
When The Doctor Was Me
I personally feel people are hoping for more from Maisie’s character. The Doctor seems to know who she is! But not necessarily someone from his past. I think she’s just someone new.
My theory is that she and The Doctor meet during the episode(The Girl Who Died). She then tragically dies. In the climax of the episodes second part a masked savour comes from nowhere just as the Doctor is about to see death himself. The mystery person soon runs from the battlefield. The Doctor chases them down and demands to know who they are. They remove the mask to show that it is indeed Maisie’s character. Thats why is is stunned because she is meant to be dead! Due to her honourable actions she is deemed The Woman Who Lived.
She could either be a new character completely or she is a timelady. Who knows but I always felt The Girl Who Died and The Woman Who Lived could well be the same person!
I have to agree!
It’s a good theory but I’m thinking that there’s something more sinister in her tone. And that theory is really what is going through everyone’s heads and I think Moffat is cleverer than that.
I too think that she is a new character who first features in “The Girl Who Died”, and the scene is from “The Woman Who Lived”.
My theory is that “The Woman Who Lived” takes place a considerable amount of time later, and in a different place. The two stories at first seem unconnected but then gradually as “Woman” progresses you realise that they are the same story.
This fits Moffat’s two-parter related masterplan for the series where “you’re never quite sure if you’re going to make it to the end of the episode”.
You know image 12 could very well be another appearance of the planet Karn, as the landscape is very similar to what we saw in The Night of the Doctor. Plus, there’s red cloaked figures around so they would obviously be the Sisterhood of Karn. Anyhow, Clare Higgins who previously played Ohila, a member of the Sisterhood of Karn in Night of the Doctor is confirmed to appear in the opener… So it has to Karn!
Image 11 could be the Master by the way, I’ve read this from somewhere. As it wouldn’t be the first time we saw a hooded, and horribly disfigured version of the character. So we might see the regeneration of the Master changing into a woman!
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