May 20th, 2013
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TheDoctorWhoGeek
May 19th, 2013 - 4:27pmThe 13 lives thing was a rule enforced by the Time Lords, not a biological rule – the Master evaded it:)Thus as the Doctor is the only Time Lord left he can pick and choose at how many regenerations he has:D (it was mentioned in the Sarah Jane Adventures episode with Matt Smith if anyone was wondering:P)
Some bloke
May 19th, 2013 - 4:21pmOh yeah, That’s kinda balls it all up hasn’t it. Unless they do something like they did with the master in the five doctors, where he was granted an entire new life cycle, 13 new bodies
christian smith
May 19th, 2013 - 4:14pmyou are forgetting that the 10th doctor regenerated twice – once in stolen earth and once in the end of time
Anonymous
May 19th, 2013 - 4:02pmOzymandias thats from watchmen I love watchmen
Anonymous
May 19th, 2013 - 4:02pmI feel sorry for this doctor I bet this doctor wiped out all of the time lords and daleks in the time war. 11th thinks he’s all high and mighty but I think this doctor is the true hero here
p.s I think john hurt is amazing
Anonymous
May 19th, 2013 - 3:59pmhope so
Some bloke
May 19th, 2013 - 3:58pmI don’t think we can give a final answer to that until we see the 50th special
Anonymous
May 19th, 2013 - 3:54pmbut the doctor would be made fun at
Ozymandias
May 19th, 2013 - 3:53pmWas Ecclestone officially the ninth doctor? or have we forever assumed that since he’s the ninth person to be cast as the doctor, that he is Dr number nine? (If that makes sense)
Anonymous
May 19th, 2013 - 3:39pmand actually the doctor has 12 regenerations, that means 13 lives. He has another 2 bodies to go, providing john hurts character doesn’t mess that up 😀
Anonymous
May 19th, 2013 - 3:38pmyes, we all know he will be back, he’s still the doctor. He’s confirmed himself for series 8 in 2014
Anonymous
May 19th, 2013 - 3:23pmBut the Doctor only has 11 regenerations so matt will be back
Dread
May 19th, 2013 - 3:15pmWe all got excited at the mention of the Valeyard but this distracted us from the name the Storm – perhaps the timewar doctor is “the oncoming storm” who we had heard mention of throughout the series
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 3:01pmClara guiding the First Doctor to the TARDIS was a bit of a plot hole since he had said in The Doctor’s Wife that the TARDIS he chose was unlocked. Still, the line about “What kind of an idiot would steal a malfunctioning TARDIS??” cracked me up!
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 3:00pmThis cliffhanger is on par with the best of all time, Remembrance of the Daleks Part 1, Earthshock Part 3, The Caves of Androzanni Part 3, The Pandorica Opens, Bad Wolf, etc. I’m hoping the Hurt Doctor is either Doctor Zero, a darker incarnation before Hartnell, or an in-between Doctor like the Valeyard, or maybe even the Valeyard himself! Whatever it is, I’m sure the Moff won’t disappoint! Geronimo!
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 2:57pmThe Valeyard is an almagation of everything evil about the Doctor from BETWEEN his twelfth and thirteenth incarnations, he’s not a future incarnation, but an in-between Doctor.
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 2:56pmIf you think about it, the Doctor has twelve names, William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Paul McGann, Christopher Eccleston, David Tennant, Matt Smith, and now John Hurt.
Dread
May 19th, 2013 - 2:54pmSo to summarise :-
Hurt = doctor 0 – old gallifreyan iota sigma / other / Rassilon (now that’s a complex time loop)
Hurt = doctor 9 – timewar doctor
Hurt = doctor 12 – smiths replacement and potential Valeyard
My money’s still on timewar doctor as he’s a secret and we already had a sweet touch of Clara guiding the first doctor to the tardis don’t think that would be rehashed
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 2:53pmThe Doctor said there was only him in that realm, so he had to be the Doctor, just a lost regeneration. Until explained, I’m calling him the Doctor who never was.
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 2:51pmI thought that made for an epic cliffhanger. I really want to see John Hurt in the 50th, along with Smith and Tennant.
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 2:49pmRiver gave him his regenerations after she used up three bodies, so she gave him 10 regenerations, plus his original 13 is 23, minus the 11 bodies he’s used is 12. He has 12 regenerations left, 11 counting the possibility of John Hurt’s Doctor.
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 2:47pmPossibly the Eleventh Doctor is calling upon his past self to help him against a great threat. He did it before in Dimensions in Time, though the canon of Dimensions in Time is debatable.
Anonymous
May 19th, 2013 - 2:44pmSmith is staying for an other series
Dalek: the Supreme
May 19th, 2013 - 2:44pmThe Hurt Doctor can’t be a future regeneration as the Eleventh Doctor knows about him, so he could be a regeneration used up in the Time War, or maybe even the real First regeneration. He might have done many dark, evil things back in that incarnation and when he regenerated, he was so ashamed of his actions he rejected his old name and took up the name of the Doctor.
EarthSeeker
May 19th, 2013 - 2:43pmThe Time lords banished The Doctor to earth in a disabled Tardis, as their own rules dictated that they could not execute him. he had after all been elected as the supreme time lord. (Correct me if I’m wrong.)
The Doctor was recalled from earth when the Time Lord supreme council needed his assistance in understanding the Daleks. (Genesis of the Daleks)
So some of the above theory does not hold up. However, that wouldnt stop Moffy!
As the John Hurt Doctor exists only within the Doctor’s time line, he may never exist in the physical realm. He may be a guardian angel figure looking over all of the Doctors reincarnations.
In this way, Steve Moffat could re-visit any point in the Doctors time line to explain an incident or outcome.
Or maybe he is the Doctors soul.
Who would ever wish for there very soul to be laid bare?
Role on the 50th anniversary!
Dread
May 19th, 2013 - 2:43pmAlternatively it could be that the Valeyard is ginger – calling Damian Lewis or Toby Stephens
Dread
May 19th, 2013 - 2:40pmMichael Jackson also said that and where did it get him
The funky whovian
May 19th, 2013 - 2:28pmHurts doctor is defo not the first cos the11th doctor said that”he’s the one who broke the promise” so if he were the doctor before he was called the doctor that would not apply. I was not expecting that ending, I was expecting ten and rose to turn up. Nice that it will now lead directly into the fiftieth.
Dread
May 19th, 2013 - 2:27pmThe next doctor will be ginger just so we can get a pay off to that joke – rupert grint needs work?
Dread
May 19th, 2013 - 2:24pmMaybe trensalore is Matt smiths final battleground against the manifested Valeyard as a separate being and tardis – that being the real “fall of the 11th ” ( even if it’s the twelfth, as the people repeating the legend, or the silence don’t actually know he’s the twelfth cos it’s a secret) – and so the time stream could actually be the valeyards
Another aspect I liked was with the appearance of the database river song underwriting the old idea that when a timelord dies his memories are extracted and downloaded to his tardis to then be downloaded into to matrix – no matrix as its time locked meaning the time stream just sits there in its tardis tomb as a record of his whole existence