September 13th, 2014
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Now that the 4th episode of series 8 has been aired what did you think? Was it everything you had hoped for or not what you expected…
When ghosts of past and future crowd into their lives, the Doctor and Clara are thrown into an adventure that takes them to the very end of the universe.
What happens when the Doctor is alone? And what scares the grand old man of Time and Space? Listen!
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The TARDIS
September 15th, 2014 - 7:36amI’m really split with this one. Sometimes, I love every second of it. It’s very enjoyable, and the twist at the end is quite clever and pulled off very well. Other times though, I hate the scene at the end! I can’t think of any other episode (bar TDOTD) to have divided me in such a way. I think I’m leaning towards the first, but if would appreciate it if in future, Doctor Who would look forwards rather than poking and prodding at the past.
Harold Saxon
September 15th, 2014 - 1:13amPretty good,i enjoyed it,quite creepy,mysterious,this series is really enjoyable.
James A
September 14th, 2014 - 9:47pmI’ve realised from this episode that even though Clara isn’t the “Best” companion, she is definitely the most important in the Doctor’s life.
Doctor Stu
September 14th, 2014 - 9:29pmWatched the episode today and thought it was amazing not worth all the hate its got I absolutely loved it
booboo
September 14th, 2014 - 9:51pmits actually got very little hate, only from the more vocal group
polls across all forums rate it very highly
Anonymous
September 15th, 2014 - 11:28amThe media loved it too. The Guardian and Independent reviews were exceptional, giving Moffat the praise that he deserves.
the eternal doctor
September 14th, 2014 - 8:35pmmagnificent episode faviroute so far
sweetie
September 14th, 2014 - 8:30pmAll will become clear in time Clara has been through so many lives she is stronger than most of the doctors side kicks love to see that the doctor does have fears and Clara can pasifie him as a child and an adult, its great to see the doctor getting a bit more funky two was getting a bit boring, loving the accent though reminds me of DT when he was with queen Victoria. Hoping things will just get better.
Finlay
September 14th, 2014 - 7:07pmWhat an amazing series everything I have hoped for
Michael
September 14th, 2014 - 6:50pmFantastic episode.
the astronaut of death
September 14th, 2014 - 6:41pmI just had a thought now it is probably wrong but
what if the boy in the barn wasn’t the doctor Clara was the one who presumed he was the doctor making us presume
well what I got from that scene was that he was an orphan I may be wrong but to me it sounded like it
and if that is true since when was the doctor an orphan?
so what if that boy was the doctors son
because we did here a reference for the doctor to being a father in this episode when he put Rupert to sleep. so maybe that is a link
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Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 7:53pmThe doctor has a daughter made from a machine but yeah he could have more kids I suppose
Peter Ledwith
September 14th, 2014 - 6:08pmSo what was under the sheet? What was outside the spaceship? What else grabbed the other people?
Didnt make sense.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 6:25pmThats the beauty of Doctor Who, what was it? you don’t know, it wasn’t that is didn’t make sense, its about fear, you think it was something but it was actually something else, or was it, thats how life is.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 7:51pmUnder the sheet was something created by the doctors imagination when he was a child but that fear is what made him who he is as it acts like adrenalin to keep him going. Clara is all over his time line sent to keep him safe, that even meant before we knew him or that’s what I think anyway.
sweetie
September 14th, 2014 - 9:25pmPerhaps it was the doctor himself perhaps the doctoctor is his own worst fear
Handles
September 14th, 2014 - 5:08pmI was wondering if anyone else thinks that Missy might be the “I want to Kill the Doctor side of River Song” that she somehow separated from herself and it became its own entity? She refers to the Doctor as her Boyfriend and can manipulate his timeline. They basically made 2 River Songs when they kidnapped her as a baby and mentally trained her to be an assassin that can be triggered. Maybe she was able to cut that part of herself out and it became corporeal.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 7:56pmI think she is river song in a previous incarnation her timeline runs opposite to the doctors or perhaps she’s just a girlfriend we havnt met.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 4:59pmas anyone tried pausing the ep at the exact time the thing on the bed took the covers off. also anyone have any ideas what was outside the tardis just after orson saved the doctor the cloister bell was ringing so something must of been out there. one last think I don’t think we’ve seen the last of orson because when they were filming local to me the doctor, clara and two others were wearing sb6 suits
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 5:37pmAnd they were outside
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 7:59pmIf u watch when the thing gets off the bed and the blanket falls ime sure I saw some sort of head shaped like a rugby ball larger than our heads but flesh coloured
jim summerlin
September 14th, 2014 - 4:45pmThe plot was great! Who would have guessed that the Doctor’s fears and his psychological need to overcome them were created by the “impossible girl?” She spread herself throughout the Doctor’s timeline to protect him. So the revelation that she was there to guide him when he was a child is brilliant. The looping plots, backward connections, and surprises that make total sense are as good as J.K. Rowling’s.
I am really hoping that River Song shows up this year.
rt
September 14th, 2014 - 4:29pmMuch better after second viewing!!!
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 3:57pmwhat confuses everyone is this episode
and I will try to help
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 3:45pmthis is my third favourite episode ever
the ergon
September 14th, 2014 - 3:01pmThe series is getting into gear now. As a costsaving episode only steven moffat is able to make something cheap into something that’s scary and tapping into the fears of young children. Love the ‘cover monster’, but if clara was the pair of hands under the bed, was that the doctor under the covers. Somebody try to explain.
the astronaut of death
September 14th, 2014 - 12:33pmtime heist looks good
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 12:32pmI just loved it
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 12:00pmDoes this episode count as a multi doctor story
I mean a young version of the first doctor appears
the astronaut of death
September 14th, 2014 - 12:33pmyou could say that
but I only call it a multi doctor story
when the doctors meet
the astronaut of death
September 14th, 2014 - 11:30ameveryone stop worrying about capaldi!
not many people liked smiths first episodes
dalekdave
September 14th, 2014 - 4:34pmit is not Capaldi who is dragging it down, it is Clara she is just not right for the show
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 6:43pmI think Peters really good for the show but I think the same clara not the best for the series because series 7 wasn’t the best either clara just not the best
Tardisbob
September 14th, 2014 - 7:39pmAre we watching the same episodes of doctor who, Clara is the best companion of the new series to date
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 8:06pmClara is brilliant she is more of a doctor than the doctor is at the no she’s spent so long in his life line she’s absorbing him
James Halho
September 14th, 2014 - 11:23amProbably my favourite episode of S8 so far, but I dont understand what the plot is meant to be.
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
September 14th, 2014 - 12:36pmwithout a plot there is no story! that’s what i didn’t get with this one
the astronaut of death
September 14th, 2014 - 12:38pmbut that’s what made it different there was a plot just not a big one
the doctor starts investigating a nightmare that has been scaring children for centuries
James Halho
September 14th, 2014 - 4:58pmI just don’t think they really resolved anything or defeated a monster or anything.
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
September 14th, 2014 - 6:05pmI agree with James Halho
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 8:04pmIts gaining more in site into the doctor and finally learning that he does have fears which means he is vulnerable that means everything
the astronaut of death
September 14th, 2014 - 11:23amI have been reading all these people saying how Clara has two big of a part and I like actually like it. normally the companions don’t have an impact on the show or the doctors life but she is different you have got two remember it is not just the doctor who is traveling in time and space it is also clara
the astronaut of death
September 14th, 2014 - 11:21amcan I just say
this thing about it cant be gallifrey as it is in a pocket universe is wrong
yes it got put into a pocket universe but that wasn’t until the time war gallifrey still exists in the past
Big D
September 14th, 2014 - 11:16amMemo to Steven Moffat. This show is called Doctor Who. NOT Clara Oswald.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 1:42pmYou obviously haven’t seen older episodes then. Ian and Barbara took so much of the limelight during the First Doctors era as did Ace with the Seventh Doctor….like with Clara, it was apropiatley done.
Big D
September 14th, 2014 - 2:44pmAh Anonymous. If only you knew. As someone who has been around since the very beginning, growing up with Ian and Barbara aswell as all the other companions I am only too aware of their roles and their importance. Indeed, I have over my time met a great many of them including William Russell, Jacqueline Hill and Sophie Aldred.
My point being that they were there to provide an audience surrogate, a relateable point of view to the Doctor and his worlds. They were not the prime focus of the story in the way that SM is making Clara (one of my favourite companions, I might add, to go along with Zoe, Liz, Jo, Sarah and Leela). They are there to compliment, to question and relate the focus to the audience, not be the focus in the manner that SM has created in this series.
Remember that this is a new Doctor whom we are still getting to know (maybe this is why SM has taken this course) but until we spend time with him we will never get to know him. We are being taken as his companions on his journeys and being bogged down in the world of Clara does neither him nor us any favours.
dalekdave
September 14th, 2014 - 4:44pmI an 62 years old, I have watched doctor who since the first episode and I completely agree with Big D. although I must add there have been many good companions in the past and others not so good, unfortunately I would class Clara as just unsuitable for the part (Maybe a good actress but this is not for her) the focus should be on the doctor I think he will be fine but Matt Smith was expectantly good so it will be difficult for us to except him quickly
skaroman
September 14th, 2014 - 7:52pmAha! Nice to meet some traditional Whovians on this site. I agree that Clara is amazing, it’s just those few episodes that you have to warm up to a different character. I’m only 17 but I have seen every episode of Doctor Who (apart from lost episodes and UWM 2) and I must say that we are all entitled to our own opinion. For example: I really don’t like Dodo Chaplet, Turlough or Amy Pond. My opionion, your opinion.
Big D
September 14th, 2014 - 9:38pmSkaroman. Im impressed. For one so young you have travelled far and demonstrate great wisdom.
I too wasnt keen on those you mentioned though for me the ones I really struggle with are Adric, Tegan, Mel and (preparing to be criticised here…) Ace.
You are quite correct that we are all entitled to our own opinion and thats what makes it all so interesting and different.
I would just like to see Capaldis Doctor take centre stage and be given scripts and stories he can truly make his own and do him justice. He’s a tremendous actor and has the potential to be a tremendous Doctor, possibly rivalling my personal favourite Jon Pertwee.
Just out of interest, whats your favourite story / stories? For me its Bakers Talons of Weng Chiang followed by Pertwees The Daemons and then Bakers Pyramids of Mars.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 10:56amI only read the comments on the ‘What did you think….’ pages to get a Sunday morning giggle reading the comments by the few but very vocal Moffatt bashers. It’s funnier than listening to any other type of bigot….but still a tad scary how vicious they are.
booboo
September 14th, 2014 - 11:10amindeed
skaroman
September 14th, 2014 - 10:50amSo… Clara is the reason that the Doctor comes up with his theory of listening. So if it’s just a fear of the dark that sets this episode up, then who is that person in Danny’s bed?
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 10:17amHow has Orson got a SB6 space suit….did he get it from the TARDIS….if so, why?
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 7:06amThat was not Gallifrey, think about it, 10 and 11 were ready to blow up their Home World with the War Doctor. Now they wouldn’t blow themselves up because that would of created a GIANT Paradox. It was just some farmhouse where the Doctor lived in his childhood on some nearby planet.
Brilliant episode by the way, Don’t know why everybody complains after watching a confusing (which it really isn’t) Moffat Episode…
DOCTOR WHO ONE
September 14th, 2014 - 7:38amPretty sure it was Gallifrey mate, after all, I can’t really imagine the Doctor as a small boy operating the controls of a Tardis when he can’t even reach all the controls on a Tardis console due to his short height. There’s no way it could have been another planet, and if it was, how would he get there in the first place if his too short to operate a Tardis console ?, hear clearly could not reach all the buttons and levers.
Doctor Stu
September 14th, 2014 - 10:13amYeh but why would the war doctor in the day of the doctor casually sit in a barn on a planet that’s being ravaged by Daleks and if they froze gallifrey in the anniverdsry then the three doctors and Clara would of been trapped, i doubt it actually was gallifrey
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 10:58amDOCTOR WHO ONE, Its clearly not Gallifrey and anyway, the Time Lords would of took the Doctor there
starshipalaska
September 14th, 2014 - 11:15amThere is no paradox involved with them blowing up Gallifrey, when they blew it up it was about 900 years later than the scene in the barnhouse in ‘Listen’, so they’re not blowing themselves up. I think it’s definitely Gallifrey, they found it but he Doctor will never know thanks to Clara telling him not to look. It makes a poetic sense that the War Doctor would return to his place of nightmares to destroy his world. As to why he’s just casually sitting in a barn during the war, you can see its a very isolated area by the time of the Time War (the middle of a desert), the Daleks would know would be fruitless in bombing/attacking/whatever. Just one guys opinion (hopefully others?).
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 11:16amits 100% gallifrey where else would it be???
100,000BC
September 14th, 2014 - 12:05pmThe reason that the Doctors would have survived is that the Moment said that it would be his punishment, to survive with the death of Gallifrey on his conscience.
Jamie
September 14th, 2014 - 1:24pmIt was Gallifrey.
Handles
September 14th, 2014 - 4:05pmI think everyone is over thinking this. It IS Gallifrey, when the 1st Doctor was a child! His father even said, “If he keeps running off and crying like this, they will never make him a Time Lord.” This is the same barn that War Doctor went to with The Moment during the time war. Still Gallifrey, just an unpopulated area. The reason the Doctor was so obsessed with finding out what was in the dark/under the bed was because Clara is the one who grabbed HIS ankle from under the bed in the first place, instilling that curiosity. Then she went on to tell him to LISTEN,it was a dream and to nit be afraid. Which is why he wrote Listen on the chalkboard in the Tardis and underlined it later while smiling and nit being afraid anymore. I hope I didn’t just confuse those of you further. I was really trying to help clear it up and just kept typing. It’s a Timey Wimey thing I guess. Lol!
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 7:18pmIts not Gallifrey.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 8:18pmHave u never heard of kids going on camps he could of been on holiday and no I don’t believe he took a Harris as a boy because the Dr that was gona blow up gallifrey is the doctor he was when he left also they regenerate we don’t know how many years it actually takes for them to look old I think all the wrighters are fantastic and all will b explained in due time as it always is but I think it was the doctor in that bed because Clara repeated what she had heard the doctor say and he said it because clar had said it to him as that little boy
100,000BC
September 14th, 2014 - 9:49pmIt was Gallifrey.
The Doctors were not destroying themselves in DotD as the moment was going to punish them by letting them be the only survivor with the destruction of Gallifrey on their conscience.
When they froze it they were all in their TARDISes.
Gallifrey is full of deserted wastelands which would have no sign of Daleks as they were attacking Arcadia.
Anonymous
September 14th, 2014 - 10:06pmIt wasn’t Gallirey, In Day of the Doctor, the Barn looked like it was on a nearby planet to me and also, Gallifrey’s Sky is a orange-red colour not blue!
sweetie
September 15th, 2014 - 2:10pmHandles u can’t say that his father said, we don’t even know who the couple were that were looking for him, I think if that was my child I would of at least tried to coax the young boy back in, but instead they just left him to it, he obviously had the freedom to do what he wanted even at that young age and the man obviously thought the army would toughen him up. Perhaps pink is a rogue timelord like the master, and that’s why he looks the same and that would explain the time travel in the family comment, perhaps it was aimed at pink not Clara.
Dalek The Supreme
September 14th, 2014 - 4:43amThat was a very interesting episode. While last week’s episode is so far the least thought provoking episode of the season, this one, to me, is the most, and I can definitely see myself revisiting it in the future. The atmosphere was dark and creepy, the suspense was good, and the subplots with Orson and Danny Pink was interesting and added more to his character. Clara continues on her path to becoming a relatable character, and the Doctor, with the odd Smith-y moment, returns to form. The revelation that there was no monster, and it was the Doctor’s own fear and paranoia, was handled very well, with the “Fear is a companion analogy”. It seems we’re continuing to have a closer look into the Doctor’s past, which can be a good thing or a bad thing. Here, I think it’s good, because we don’t have a detailed look at what’s going on with the Doctor’s life, nor do we see his face, but we are given a general idea. If I have one problem with the episode, it’s how jarring the scene transitions are. Other than that, I think it’s a solid episode. 9/10. The score so far this season, is:
Deep Breath: 8/10
Into the Dalek: 9/10
Robot of Sherwood: 6/10
Listen: 9/10