December 5th, 2015
208 comments
We earn a commission for products purchased through some links in this article.
Now that the highly anticipated series 9 final has been aired what did you think? Was it everything you had hoped for or not what you expected.
The Doctor Who site welcomes constuctive comments related to the news article in question. Links posted in comments may not be displayed. We reserve the right to delete or edit any post entirely at our discretion. If you leave unacceptable comments your IP address will be banned and reported
The Doctor Who Site
As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases. The Doctor Who Site also participates in various other affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commission on products purchased through our links.
The Doctor Who Site is a Doctor Who fan site with no connection to the BBC.
Doctor Who is copyright © by the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC). No copyright infringement is intended.
Facebook
Twitter
Pinterest
Merchandise
Flickr
YouTube
Spandy
December 7th, 2015 - 1:11amMAde me cry like four seperate times towards the end when she put on the glasses to listen in. Slight plot hole where is the dude asheldr rezzed what became of him if he didn’t make to the end of time with her? How is Jenna going to be in next season and play The Queen?
CardiffRa
December 7th, 2015 - 1:11amCompletely disappointed at this last episode. What a shameful use of Gallifrey, it started very well and then went down quickly. Let’s forget all the time the doctor have been looking for Gallifrey. He arrives, with no questions, no intrigue. And first order of the day, banish Rassilon the first of time lords. They just made the mighty and feared Time Lords feel so banal and uninteresting.
The doctor shooting someone? I could not believe my eyes. Even if he knew said person would regenerate.
Not to mention the Hybrid plot that seemed to have been forgotten and rushed at the last second.
If they wanted to create a glorified goodbye to Clara why waste the return of Gallifrey to the screen? So many ways it could have been done more effectively.
Although I was disappointed in general. I greatly enjoyed the return of the sonic screwdriver and old TARDIS. And although I disapprove of the direction they took with the episode it was an OK one in the end, but not good enough for a season finale.
P.S. – And I really hope they forget they ever set Clara and Me inside a TARDIS and sent them into the unknown. Apparently the doctor have been lying all along in the time he spent to learn how to fly a TARDIS, or this is the iTARDIS, fool proof TARDIS for people who can’t really drive but want to travel in time.
Dr P
December 7th, 2015 - 12:49amThere’s 2 options but it depends at what point the time war history was altered. Either;
1 the doctor changed the outcome of the time war it looks like rasilon never regenerated into dalton. This would mean dotd took place before the 10th died.
2 or dotd did happen after the end of time aand dalton naturally regenerated into the new rassilon p- this could have been through fighting the master or natural or something else
Harold Saxon
December 7th, 2015 - 12:07amPretty good,kinda complex I guess,shame missy wasn’t back on gallifrey with the doctor,nice depart for clara and alternative tardis was cool,a fun finale to the series.
MrsM
December 6th, 2015 - 11:28pmNo chance,
MrsM
December 6th, 2015 - 11:26pmI so agree welcome back screwdriver.
Hopefully we will also loose the guitar!
MrsM
December 6th, 2015 - 11:22pmI agree with Sid rat.
This is supposed to be a family show.
Not a show with such a complicated plot that only a super fan can follow it.
It thought Steven Moffat was great but now I think he is losing the plot ( or simply over complicating it )
mick181
December 6th, 2015 - 10:43pmAlso the Doctor blames Rassilon and the council for the Time War and for that alone they deserve being kicked off Galifrey.
There is an old saying that suites this situation “absolute power corrupts absolutely ” The doctor even said at one stage Rassilon was a good man once. I think he got of lightly, they should have put him in front of the firing squad.
Rassilon returning from exile would certainly make a good story arc down the road, especially if he was to link up with Missy/the Master.
Sid Rat
December 6th, 2015 - 9:43pmSuch a shame that this family sci-fi show is no longer aimed at the family. Unfortunately it’s not aimed at kids anymore, the storylines and the time slot etc. I enjoyed this series but I was born in the 70s. My 7 year old declared part way through this series that he doesn’t like Dr Who anymore, and I find that a real shame.
Dr P
December 6th, 2015 - 9:37pmSo what happens if Clara is attacked and killed on her travels? Does she die? Does she still need to go back to the extractor?
Anonymous
December 6th, 2015 - 9:26pmJust thinking- if Clara goes off on her own adventures and gets into trouble, what happens if she is mortally wounded? Does she die? Is she still brought back to gallifrey – is she immortal and can’t die like captain jack?
The super whovian
December 6th, 2015 - 8:23pmI thought this episode was a very good way to finish this fantastic series. There were a lot of good things about this episode. The first few minutes were really good and show the doctors character very well like how he is not violent and why you shouldn’t get him angry. This episode shows how far the doctor will go to save someone. A lot of people would properly say this episode was confusing and I agree but if it was too simple it would be boring. Now that the Galifrey has been sorted out I really hope the series finds another interesting storyline.
So I think this episode was confusing and there were a few small problems like is Galifrey in another dimension or is it back in the universe but that didn’t ruin the episode for me so I think this is one of the best series finals in the new series. Like caves of androzani it doesn’t have lots of action like an army of daleks but it shows how far the doctors character will go.
I think this episode will be remembered as “the one were the doctor returns to Galifrey” or “the one were Clara finally leaves”
The super whovian
December 6th, 2015 - 8:15pmI thought this episode was a very good way to finish this fantastic series. There were a lot of good things about this episode. The first few minutes were really good and show the doctors character very well like how he is not violent and why you shouldn’t get him angry. This episode shows how far the doctor will go to save someone.
whorules
December 6th, 2015 - 6:42pmthe comment about him stealing the president’s wife. doctor say’s it wasn’t his wife but daughter (susan – president’s daughter/doctor’s granddaughter)
whorules
December 6th, 2015 - 6:40pmthe doctor thought he was going to die in magicians apprentice because he was going to see davros. he didn’t think missy and clara would be there to save him/make him save himself.
The Sonic Monkey
December 6th, 2015 - 6:20pmA few issues with this episode but all in all I enjoyed it.
Didn’t get the big issue about Clara dying and why the Doctor had to try so hard to save her, considering every other version of her he ever met, died as well. She is still in his timeline so, by rights, she should at least pay a quick visit to every version of the doctor in the future.
He should know this.
Heres hoping Me never makes another appearance, didn’t rate the character at all. And what they hell was the idea of having the two of them fly off in a Tardis about, no need for that at all. Was Moffat trying to go for a Thelma and Louise type thing there?
What the hell is all that with a man regenerating into a woman. I’ve kinda let the Missy one slip by as its done and can’t be undone. But a second time is too much. Someone take away Moffats keyboard before he does it with the Doctor.
On the flip side, loved the return of the Sonic Driver. The whole popping out of the console and flying into his hand, very Jedi!
Christmas episode looks like it’s gonna be a blast.
techruyc
December 6th, 2015 - 6:10pmThis is the most hilarious comment I have ever read!
The Werewolf
December 6th, 2015 - 5:58pmAs someone who watches Game of Thrones, (even though I think Season 5 was dreadful), it is sort of nice to see the Stark’s Maester Luwin (played by Donald Sumpter) in the same episode as Arya Stark (Maisie Williams).
Mr Nobody
December 6th, 2015 - 5:58pmIt’s Moffat! He’s writing this series like fan fiction. Ratings HAVE gone down this series. On a Saturday night it can’t even beat the likes of ‘Pointless Celebrities’ in the ratings! This is a show now being made more for the core fanbase. The General viewer (and even some of the fans) find it too convoluted and couldn’t care less about what’s happening on screen. Part of the problem is Moffat can’t seem to keep characters dead. So any initial impact of a characters demise is ruined by a ‘get out of jail free card’ later on! It’s getting predictable and tiresome. It actually diminishes the Doctor’s own unique ability to live on endlessly by regeneration, as any old tom, dick, harry or clara can go on…and on …and on. It’s only a good job Moffat wasn’t around during season 19…Otherwise we’d still have Adric!
[email protected]
December 6th, 2015 - 5:39pmI don’t know, I found him quite unimpressive, he just came across as angry and didn’t really do anything interesting with the part. You got the sense that they couldn’t afford Timothy Dalton anymore which seemed a little sad, but maybe I’m judging too harshly and he wasn’t available. The CGI was pretty spectacular which would suggest a fair amount of dosh.
Trenzalore
December 6th, 2015 - 5:14pmHe did trap The Doctor for four billion years, I’d be pretty mad too 😆 I think he got what he deserved but maybe they could have just replaced him.
MrHaloWho
December 6th, 2015 - 5:04pmAnonymous
The Doctor was apparently going to die in The Magician’s Apprentice, which is why he has the confession dial. That sub-plot was never rapped up. And I’d hoped we’d have seen John Simm-Michelle Gomez’s regeneration, instead of the General’s pointless one.
And the fact that no-one knows how this Rassilon came to be shows that the story does have several massive plot holes.
MrHaloWho
December 6th, 2015 - 5:00pmwat
The Werewolf
December 6th, 2015 - 4:54pmThe Hybrid is the Doctor/Clara
The Moffat Paradox
December 6th, 2015 - 4:46pmRemember also that time lines have been changed from the events of The End Of Time because of events in the DOTD.
Gallifrey is no longer time locked in a final war that would result in it’s destruction and lead to TD Rassilon’s Time Lords survival strategy by their becoming non corporeal while the rest of the universe was left to burn from the contradictions created by unlocking the Time War.
So I think that can imply the showdown between the Master and Rassilon now never happened and TD Rassilon just naturally regenerated into Donald Sumpter Rassilon and the Master independently regenerated into Missy. (But it’s all non canon supposition until told otherwise). Otherwise the Master would still be caught in the same Time War time lock as the Time Lords on Gallifrey.
robert lacamp
December 6th, 2015 - 4:40pmAshidr…….. A shi (e) Dr. The Doctor is immortal. He goes outside to meet Me. Yes or No?
Androwl
December 6th, 2015 - 4:34pmYes! So so happy they are finally back to the sonic screwdriver. The Doctor isn’t the same without it.
Jason [Doctor Who One] from Deviant Art
December 6th, 2015 - 4:34pmI should have said this on my original comment earlier this morning, but what – a – NERVE the Doctor and the Time Lord’s have in banishing Rassilon from Gallifrey.
Serious – RASSILON !! . . . . the first Time Lord, regarded as the single greatest figure in Time Lord history, the man who practically gave them the Eye of Harmony which the source of all their great powers, and perhaps even gave them the ability to regenerate, have the privaliage of traveling not only through space, but time as well !!.
How could they do that to him ?. The least they could have done would have been to replace him as Lord President and tell him to live back in his Dark Tower Tomb in the Death Zone rather then leave Gallifrey altogether.
Seriously, having the Doctor and them telling Rassilon to leave Gallifrey would be like having me telling the Queen and the entire Royal Family to pack their bags and go live in India and to never return.
Shame on the Doctor and all Time Lords, the ungreatful so and so’s after all his done for them.
Androwl
December 6th, 2015 - 4:33pmCouldn’t agree more! I was happy that they finally moved away from the whole personal factor (though I guess some people will argue that that was the strength of the episode). I don’t like how Moffat and Co. always walk over every single established rule, as if NOTHING mattered… At least the previous doctors had a notion of consequence to their actions. How can Clara fly around for another billion years if her death is the only thing that can heal the universe? Isn’t she causing the death of millions, just by existing longer? Why do they never explain anything and just make up fancy stuff?
Jason [Doctor Who One] from Deviant Art
December 6th, 2015 - 4:27pmYeah 🙂