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What Did You Think of Nightmare in Silver?
What Did You Think of Nightmare in Silver?
Hedgewickβs World of Wonders was once the greatest theme park in the galaxy, but itβs now the dilapidated home to a shabby showman, a chess-playing dwarf and a dysfunctional army platoon.
When the Doctor, Clara, Artie and Angie arrive, the last thing they expect is the re-emergence of one of the Doctorβs oldest foes. The Cybermen are back
Now that the 7th episode of series 7b has aired in the UK what did you think?, was it the best episode ever or just average.
Matt
May 12th, 2013 - 9:19amReally thought the voices sounded like The Wheel In Space cybermen but updated of course!
daryl
May 12th, 2013 - 10:34amwere they mondasian cyber men?
Matt
May 12th, 2013 - 11:32amYes they were!
cyberman2
May 12th, 2013 - 12:07pmbut they didn’t say mondas when talking about the cybermen they said the name of the galaxy they came from so they may have come from there. also they’re mark 2 versions of the RTD cybermen. great episode by the way
cyberman2
May 12th, 2013 - 12:08pmps glad they returned the cyber planner and great idea that it was in the doctors mind and took over minds
Dalek: the Supreme
May 13th, 2013 - 8:10pmThey had a weakness to certain cleaning fluids and gold like the Mondasians, weaknesses that haven’t been seen in the Cybus Industries versions. That implies these Cybermen do hail from Mondas.
The Moffat Paradox
May 12th, 2013 - 9:06amWell in “Resurrection of the Daleks” during a battle scene their quick to beat a retreat when their taking casulties and then use human mercenaries instead & one asks for “mercy” from River Song in “big bang” at end of series 5 when it realises its weapons & shields arented recharged unlike hers.So I think they can have at times cowardly charateristics in the sense that all bullies are cowards when forceably confronted.
Dalek: the Supreme
May 13th, 2013 - 8:13pmThere’s a difference between cowardly and strategically intelligent. They wouldn’t have wanted to unnecessarily lose Daleks when they had more mobile clone troopers to send instead reason, and the Dalek begged for mercy in The Big Bang was because it knew it was the last Dalek left, and without it, the Daleks would be extinct.
Radburn
May 12th, 2013 - 3:03amBack in the days of Star Trek: Voyager every other episode was a Borg one which became a tiresome Borgfest! Whilst not the same situation, I think it is time they retired the Cybermen/Daleks for a few years. The drivel that was “Nightmare In Silver” was the lowest point for me this season, apart from the obviously shining performance from Warwick Davies. He at least came over as natural & actually seemed to belong in that place. Harking back to JNT he managed the surprise & awe in Doctor Who – All we get now is the ‘NEXT TIME’ slot which give’s everything away, pictures leaked months ahead, stuff in the RT – That most of the time the episodes are already known……..
Big D
May 12th, 2013 - 6:40pmWell said Radburn. Much overused and in some pretty dire stories too – which is unforgiveable. I did like the speed of the cyberman though. That was a good upgrade.
The story itself could have been good. The basis was there but the execution was poor. It felt rushed, jumpy, unfinished and too much of a story crammed into one episode. I feel it would have helped itself to be spread out over two episodes. The kids were dire (what was the point?), the ‘soldiers’ were weak and annoying, whilst the Doctor overacted. I must admit I do like Clara though (and not just because shes so attractive). I found myself thinking that it would be good if she was really Susan (not that it’ll happen)and could hang around a bit.
Did anyone else get the impression that they could be setting up a regeneration?
ROCKSTAR
May 20th, 2013 - 7:29pmGet a hold of yourself Big D Clara is not I repeat not attractive
Dalek The Supreme
May 12th, 2013 - 2:13amI was kind of let down by this episode. The kids did nothing in this episode, and the CyberPlanner acted too emotional. Matt Smith did come across as very sinister, however, he should’ve been more emotionless in his performance. The story itself was intriguing, and the side characters were very enjoyable. The new Cybermen come across as sinister and threatening, but did nothing for the later part of the episode. It was much less than I was expecting, but not bad either. 5/10
daniel
May 12th, 2013 - 1:02pmi think it was pretty good
Big D
May 12th, 2013 - 6:12pmThe kids did nothing? Surely thats a good thing. I dont know why the producers etc insist on having them. Very irritating.
Dalek: the Supreme
May 13th, 2013 - 8:16pmMy opinion has improved, I give it a 7/10 now. It did succeed in making the Cybermen threatening again, and the whole story reminded me of Tomb of the Cybermen without being too similar. Also, the Doctor’s comments about the Cybermen’s weaknesses to cleaning fluid and gold proves that these are the Cybermen who hailed from Mondas. And Big D, if they’re going to have children in the story, then they should give them something to do.
Big D
May 16th, 2013 - 5:42pmDont have kids in. Full stop.
Cybermen FTW
May 29th, 2013 - 9:09pmI heard that in terms of the origins of the Cybermen, the Cybus Cybermen and the Mondas Cybermen encountered each other and upgraded themselves into each other, hence where the mixture of the two comes from.
Doctor J
May 12th, 2013 - 2:05amI wasn’t expecting Nightmare in Silver to be something like The Doctor’s Wife I mean like a great story either because it was written by Neil Gaiman I thought it would be the best Cyberman story of the new series or best ep of S7. I can understand why some people don’t like and I do admit they should have been seen more but what I’m happy is that the Cybermen were deadlier and I think so far this is the most dangerous they’ve been in Nu Who. I was also very happy with the cliffhanger.
Doctor J
May 12th, 2013 - 2:20amI love DW cause of what it is but I do admit that the eps of S7 have been rushed not all but some of them they need to bring back the 2 parters or lengthen the eps. I’m certainly looking forward to the finale but worried.
Doctor J
May 12th, 2013 - 2:25amMy rating for Nightmare in Silver 7.5/10
McGann is the Doctor
May 12th, 2013 - 12:30amI loved it, scary stuff and some amazing ideas I am kicking myself for not having thought of.
The Cybermen I don’t think have ever been so threatening. The Doctor/CyberDoctor struggle was interesting because it really felt like two different characters (Matt Smith, that was amazing).
A minor nitpcik or two: I would have preferred Clara to have hit the Cyberman with the mace, that would have been a great moment. And the Cybermen are still stomping and have that cheesy 2006 signature theme β Was disappointed by that.
TeddyChester
May 11th, 2013 - 11:25pmAverage episode. Excited at first about the theme park but the scale of it just didn’t materialise on screen. The kids kinda entered and left the episode all too easy? Cybermen new touches were good, especially the freeze slow motion and speed up, very good.
McGann is the Doctor
May 12th, 2013 - 12:25amThat was amazing and unexpected, never thought they could move so fast.
You know the measure of a good Cybermen/Dalek story is that you are siding against them; you want the Cybermen to lose.
A bad story will have you wanting to see them more and not feeling a threat off them.
Richard Thomas
May 11th, 2013 - 9:56pmIf this is Doctor Who for the 50th year then I am afraid it’s the year I stop watching. The one word that sums up this years crop is ‘Rushed’. The movie of the week format just does not work. There is just to much going on and crammed in. The writing has been really poor and the original premise of the show and the main character has been eroded away until it might as well not be called Doctor Who. Add to that the return of the Graham Williams / Douglas Adams ‘humour’ and slapstick acting and we are at the end of the line as far as I and the dwindalling overnight audience Re concerned.
Moffat and Smith must go now no a complete reboot is required ASAP.
Richard T and old time fan of classic Doctor Who – who is longing for a return of the old Doctor and Companion relationship and better written shows that showcase the writing not the effects budget.
MasterKasterborous
May 11th, 2013 - 11:09pmI’m sorry but all of Douglas Adams’ stories are amazing!
olletsoc
May 11th, 2013 - 11:19pmRichard Thomas, i agree with you. When Matt was first cast as the Doctor, i thought “great, he looks like he’s going to be a dark version of the Doctor”. I was hoping for something similar to Ecclestone’s Doctor. (don’t get me wrong, i loved Tennant, i just thought he over acted sometimes). The 11th Doctor is ok, the scripts Matt is given are terrible though. And i’m sick of all this ‘movie week’ rubbish. It’s becoming like Torchwood – Americanised.
How to fix Doctor Who:
– Scrap this whole ‘movie week’ think
– Bring back two parters
– Discard any sexual tension between Doctor/companion
– Get a better head writer (Moffat has already proven he’s not up to the job)
McGann is the Doctor
May 12th, 2013 - 12:23amDon’t be sorry.
You know WHO
May 12th, 2013 - 11:54amI am 15 years old. I have watched Doctor Who since it came back in 2005, and have also seen lots of the classics. 2013 is supposed the most superb year of Doctor Who so far for the 50th anniversary, but it is just getting worse and worse. Ever since 2010, series 5, Doctor Who has gone downhill . The Doctor acts like a grinning idiot for 90% of the time, the story lines are unclear and not of a high standard, classic enemies like the Daleks and Cybermen are not getting good stories; Asylum of the Daleks was meant to have every type of Dalek back,it did n’t, and I was hoping that Nightmare in Silver was finally going to explain the relation ship between the Cybus Cybermen and the original Cybermen. Where are these new Cybermen even from? BBC please restore Doctor Who to a solid Sci Fi show suitable for all ages. Thank You
Big D
May 12th, 2013 - 6:53pmRichard I applaud your post. I honestly couldnt have put it better myself. Its like you read my mind. Your views reflect mine exactly. My family cant understand why I still watch it but having watched every Doctor since 1963 I feel obliged to continue. I think they feel sorry for me when, after every episode now, I have that look of disappointment.
I like Clara though and really hope they dont start down that lovey dovey, sentamentalist road that theyve gone down with every companion since it restarted.
Lets get back to a stronger, older, darker Doctor who has strong writing behind him rather than glossy effects with little or no substance.
ROCKSTAR
May 20th, 2013 - 7:35pmBring back Russell t Davies
Harold Saxon
May 11th, 2013 - 9:56pmTHE CYBER DOCTOR VS THE DOCTOR & some funky new cybermen too,it was good fun,cybermites are cool and the cybers move in a way we’vve never seen before,good show neil.
HITCH66
May 11th, 2013 - 9:47pmOne of the worst of all time. The acting was third rate, as was the dialouge. Smith was a absolute joke. As for the Cybermen, well they were as bad as ever, hopeless. The one good thing was that Strax, Jenny and Vastra didn’t appear to drag this down even further. A joke.
Anonymous
May 11th, 2013 - 9:52pmWere we watching the same episode?
HITCH66
May 11th, 2013 - 9:55pmI was watching Nightmare in Silver and it was a disgrace.
The Silence
May 11th, 2013 - 10:32pmIf you don’t like Matt Smith, the Cybermen or Jenny, Vastra and Strax then I don’t understand why you are watching the series at the moment. I can understand being a fan of other eras and not this one, but simply watching it now to criticize it is just silly. Sorry if I’ve misjudged you and I do respect you’re opinion, but this is how you come across.
JJ
May 11th, 2013 - 10:33pmI hated it too, although I love Vastra, Jenny and Strax and they weren’t in it, which I’m glad, because it would have dragged them down, because the episode was rubbish.
HITCH66
May 11th, 2013 - 11:02pmIt’s like supporting a football team, no matter how bad they get, as a fan you still watch it. There are hardly any places where criticism of the new series is allowed, usually the average episode is given a 10/10 by fans, while being touted as BAFTA wining stuff by the press. In fact the current era is badly written, badly acted, played for laughs, babyish, while at the same time having crude references chucked in. The Buffy era of everyone being a smart arse is tired and dull. This is not just for doctor who but alot of modern films.(Marvel) People seem to like this though, so I loose. Cheers.
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
May 11th, 2013 - 11:25pmI do have to agree with HITCH66 in some places.
KORSAIR
May 12th, 2013 - 9:59am“Itβs like supporting a football team” I understand totally what you mean,because we are fans we’ll watch faithfully. A lot of the last 3 years was a let down to me and this year hasn’t had anything special so far. And back to your quote if a football team plays badly what do they do? They normally replace the team manager,I rest my case.
booboo
May 12th, 2013 - 10:05amgot to admit i’m to much stuck in the classic era, i can watch many of those stories over and over but last nights did nothing for me, i can see why its enjoyable for many, last weeks had many + points but apart from Warwick Davis there was little here for me this time.
Matt
May 12th, 2013 - 10:26amHave to agree with you HITCH66, I hated it, one of the worst episodes to date
Moosey
May 12th, 2013 - 10:41amWhat can I say one of the best episodes this season, now they have got rid of Amy and Rory , it’s time the cyber men got a proper upgrade, they only let down was the kids.
To say Moffat should go is a bit sad, I love the classic stories and also love the new, it’s all about moving with the times. Having a proper defined relationship between companion and doctor helps make the stories stronger.
As fans we cannot go backwards we must go forward, it has to be interesting for the children of today or it will die out as it did at the end of the 80’s.
As a fan of of the show since the beginning I have seen alot of changes, not all great, but it’s kept this show going 50 years. You know the next doctor just could be a new favourite
KORSAIR
May 12th, 2013 - 12:12pm@Moosey, I’m not knocking Moffat nor demanding his booting out,the man is a great writer (Blink,Empty Child etc)it’s just that he seems to making Dr Who to please himself and not the viewers,people are stopping watching it my two boys definately have. I think the format needs to be changed all this mysterious companion nonsense has to stop,we need to get back to traditional Dr Who,get rid of eye candy Clara and start pleasing the viewers (not just the fans)full respect to Matt Smith if he wasn’t such a good actor a fair few of the recent stories could have been a lot worse. @Booboo I agree about classic who totally maybe a few classic type stories would help improve things,and before anyone starts jumping all over me for my opinions I’ve been a fan since the the show started (1963)and actually feel guilty saying anything bad about the show.
booboo
May 12th, 2013 - 1:02pmNo need to feel guilty i am much the same, i can see why many people are loving these episodes but they are just not for me
Dalek Sec
May 13th, 2013 - 11:08amNo matter how bad Doctor who, i’m still faithful to it. And i’ll try to watch every episode. I mean its still an intelligent show, just be glad Moffat didn’t turn it into a great big outer space Jersey Shore or something.
Dalek: the Supreme
May 13th, 2013 - 8:23pmAll I’m saying is, I’m not a fan of New Who or Classic Who, I am a fan of Doctor Who, plain and simple.
ROCKSTAR
May 20th, 2013 - 7:38pmI agree with you Dalek sec and I thought you were exterminated
KORSAIR
May 11th, 2013 - 9:38pmOverall a good episode,though I think it would of been better as a two parter. The only fault was the superspeed thing,a wee bit too much I think.
lepter
May 11th, 2013 - 9:32pmliked it. Cybermen looked cool, cybermites were a good idea. Thought the headless cyberman idea was good….next step from pandorica cyberman. My only quible would be the cyberplanners emotion. Cybermen are supposed to be emotionless, it bieng seen as a weakness. Dont know if they are mondasian or paralell but they are back and creepy again. I am one happy cyberfan as cybermen are my fave monster.
lepter
May 11th, 2013 - 9:33pmoh…the gold thing was a bit wierd. Gold was supposed to affect their breathing, nit the software. But…STILL COOL!
The Moffat Paradox
May 11th, 2013 - 9:06pmAt last proper Cybermen that hark back to the classic era including a better sounding voice.
Just shows though with the Cybernites instead of Cybermats how the Cybermen/Star Trek’s Borg concepts have pinched from each others ideas. From the concept of beings established in Who that seek perfection with cyber implants to Star Treks additional idea of Nano probes to create Borg and the ability to adapt to weapons and upgrade themselves that’s been given a new take with Cybernites for the presumably Mondas Cybermen.
It would be fascinating to see the Daleks take on these Cybermen because in the characterisation of the Daleks they can also seemingly be cowardly and not react well if they know their up a against a foe that is more than a match for them.(No longer better at dying as Dalek Sec taunted in Doomsday?) If these Cybermen can adapt/upgrade to Dalek weaponry you can imagine the Daleks starting to panic especially if they can now turn non humanoids into Cybermen so you could maybe have cyberised Daleks. The Daleks would have to really keep as with the chess theme in the episode several moves ahead of them.
What a waste of lovely Tamzin Outhwaite though. Killing her character off like that. Its not done!
the eternal doctor
May 11th, 2013 - 9:37pmfirst of all you rote an assay π
and the bran new cybermen were amazing and all the way through I thought one of the kids were going to die.
the best episode ever was the rings of akhaten then it was cold war then it changed to journey to the centre of the tardis and know it is nightmare in silver.
the only one I was disappointed in was bells of st john. after watching nightmare in silver and saw the name of the doctor trailer I was scared that strax might die.
I hope Madame vastra or jenny flint or strax do not die because seeing that trailer I thought he was going to die.
I also felt sorry for the boy he did not get a present but the girl did. plus if they do they will come back with a bigger badder adventure and more scary. there was only one seen that scared me that was the seen when the boy went to switch the light on.
I wish the aliens were real and we could travel in time and if they are awesome.
π π π
Dalek The Supreme
May 12th, 2013 - 2:18amHow can you call the Daleks cowardly?? They scared me more in Asylum of the Daleks than even Remembrance of the Daleks (I honestly still have nightmares about that episode).
KORSAIR
May 12th, 2013 - 1:39pm@the eternal doctor If they had bumped off one of the kids it might of improved the episode we need proper shocks not the jokey half resolved plots we’ve been getting.
ROCKSTAR
May 20th, 2013 - 7:40pmWhat if the daleks and cybermen teamed up that would be epic
Booboo Jr
May 11th, 2013 - 8:49pmWell I loved that! The new Cybermen look brilliant, and have some great new features. Matts’s acting was once again top class. We could have perhaps done without the kids, but they certainly didn’t spoil the episode in any way.
From the trailers for next weeks episode, it looks set to be an epic season finale. Roll on ‘The Name of the Doctor’!
sheepinafez
May 11th, 2013 - 8:47pmBEST EPISODE EVAR FELT LIKE A DAVID TENNANT ONE LOVE THE NEW CYBERMEN NEIL GAIMAN IS A LEGEND
ROCKSTAR
May 20th, 2013 - 7:41pmDavid Tennant was the best doctor ever
DOCTOR WHO ONE
May 11th, 2013 - 8:25pmFANTASTIC EPISODE !! π
Neil Gaiman has done it again. Love the brand new Cybermen, great nods to the past with the Cyber Planner making a comeback since 1978’s ‘The Invasion’ and seeing the previous 10 Doctors faces which I don’t think any of us where expecting.
The new Cybermen are brilliant, and I welcome them as a refreshing change considering the 2006 ones where getting old and boring. The new abilities are quite impressive.
I certainly like the new Cybermites. Guess it’s R.I.P. Cybermats and hello to these new little fellas that I hope will make future appearances, plus it seems the Mondas Cybermen are BACK – FOR – GOOD !!!!!! π
thedaleksdeath
May 11th, 2013 - 9:03pmYou mean 1968 insted of 1978?
DOCTOR WHO ONE
May 11th, 2013 - 9:40pmOoops . . . . typing too fast again and I did not even notice, D’oh.
Thanks for noticing π
NOTE TO SELF – Read comments carefully and make any corrections before pressing that Post Comment button π
Dalek The Supreme
May 12th, 2013 - 2:20amSo they ARE the Mondasian Cybermen! I’d almost forgotten about that gold thing! This changes things! Not 6/10, 7/10!
Great
May 11th, 2013 - 8:16pmWhat’s your opinion boo boo. I thought the ep was great just hope the final isn’t a sink or swim ep. Ps do u know the length of the last ep
booboo
May 11th, 2013 - 8:16pmok but not my thing really
Great
May 11th, 2013 - 8:41pmIn my opionon the final ep will be a anti climax because no matter what the doctors name is it won’t be what eveyone thinks it will also take away the mystery. One final note as well they said this episode would include bits of past doctors we got all 11 in what 7 seconds. I wouldn’t say that’s a appearance
MasterKasterborous
May 11th, 2013 - 11:11pmWho says we’re going to find out his name?
Great
May 12th, 2013 - 7:50amI think Clara will find out his name but not the audience
the astronaut of death
May 11th, 2013 - 8:16pmbrilliant episode loved the new cybermen skills and design and voices and weapons and….basically I love the new cybermen
matts acting was brill and loved the cybermitess
the name of the doctor looks like the best episode ever glad we got a tv trailer
bob
May 11th, 2013 - 8:09pmdisappointed with the episode.
definitely not as good as tomb or invasion!
Fez Master
May 11th, 2013 - 8:00pmFantastic. I love the new cyberman design and their voices are cool!
Fez Master
May 11th, 2013 - 8:01pmAlso, Matt Smith’s acting was terrific!
Dalek The Supreme
May 12th, 2013 - 2:21amWhen ISN’T his acting terrific? π
Stan Stanmanson
May 11th, 2013 - 7:59pmNerd Rage review time!
Honestly? It could have been WAY better. The boy was the dullest character EVER. His voice and lines just made it so dull! The Punishment platoon was an interesting idea, but maybe could have been explained more. And Porridge as the Emperor? I liked it, an Original plot twist.
The new Cybermen really cool. The design was nice and sleek, but I think he heads could have been a bit better. The Upgrading was a great idea, giving the Cybermen the truly ‘Unbeatable’ in their name. When they all got deactivated though, that was a bit lame. Oh yeah, and the detachable parts was SO COOL! Truly a worthy upgrade. Shame they all got Dead :(.
And the Cybermites were an interesting touch, certainly a upgrade for the Cybermats π
Overall, 6/10. Certainly would have been better if there was more time. But Meh, what can ya do? I just hope we see them again.
Cybermen FTW
May 29th, 2013 - 9:19pmI must say, the episode was good. They could have just got a lot more out of it. The cry for a two-parter is a wise one. Which episodes of New Who stand out the most in your mind? The Stolen Earth? The Parting of the Ways? The Age of Steel? The Empty Child? What do these have in common? They are 2-parters. And that adds a little something which makes a big episode into a grand one. And that is what the Cybermen needed to make their grand return.
run you clever boy and remember
May 11th, 2013 - 7:58pmawsome π c
Vallu
May 11th, 2013 - 7:56pmI liked Nightmare in Silver. It made the cyberman a threat, when before in new who they were not even dangerous. Wish they’d have gotten rid of the stomping, but nothing is perfect. This episode didn’t really need a story in my opinion, because it was more about bringing the Cyberman to life. Over all, loved it. The Cybermites are actually creepy to me. Laughed at the scene where the Cyberplanner told Clara she was beautiful π
Dalek The Supreme
May 12th, 2013 - 2:23amThe only time I’ve been scared of them since Attack of the Cybermen is The Pandorica Opens when the remains of one attacks Amy.
ROCKSTAR
May 20th, 2013 - 7:46pmI jumped of the sofa when that head attacked Amy
hayley
May 11th, 2013 - 7:55pmI’ve been a committed fan of dr who since I was a little girl, I’m now 22 and have to say since David left as the 10th dr the writing has really gone down hill. It’s a shame, really is..
iPhil
May 12th, 2013 - 1:43pmReally? Matt Smith is a much better actor, I don’t miss DT’s over-acting.
Dalek: the Supreme
May 30th, 2013 - 1:33amI agree that it’s gone uphill, but I don’t blame David Tennant, I blame Russel T Davies. I always felt his finales went downhill after Series 3, the quality of the episodes after Series 1, and out of his companions I only really liked Martha and maybe Captain Jack. Steven Moffat wrote most of my favorites from the RTD era, and his Asylum of the Daleks, The Name of the Doctor, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, and The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang are among my all-time favorites.
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
May 11th, 2013 - 7:53pmaverage for me. the new cyberman are quite good, but i felt the way the first half was executed was all quite jumbled up. the bit before the titles was too quick and not very dramatic like JTTCOTT, and outhwaite’s character died too quickly. the kids in there i thought were abit pointless, and there any good co stars. when the cyber army came it got a lot better.
Matt Smithy
May 11th, 2013 - 7:51pmI can understand major critics and reviewers finding this story rubbish as there wasn’t much of a story, but here are the reasons I thought it was good:
If you think about it from a story view, you will find yourself hating it, but this episode wasn’t about story. It was about bringing back the cybermen and making them actually have some useful features, beautifully displayed here. Cybermites are so much better than cybermatts, the new instant upgrade feature is cool (if a little bit too much like the Borg) but yea, next time we see them I am sure it will have a story, they just wanted to display the new features here π
The Silent Silent
May 11th, 2013 - 7:51pmGreat, a bit too much doctor dialogue but other than that amazing.
Noticed the castle was used in the tracey beaker movie!!!
Professor When
May 11th, 2013 - 9:46pmI saw that too! π
The Supreme Dalek
May 11th, 2013 - 7:50pmIt was great, could have been better, but it is by far my favourite Cyberman episode of all time! π
Scott the Vigil
May 11th, 2013 - 7:47pmFantastic!
2doctors2000
May 11th, 2013 - 7:45pmI gotta admit, worth the miss, I would think, after that smashing FA Cup Final, great goal Watson! π
Booboo Jr
May 11th, 2013 - 8:51pmWho would have expected Wigan to be holding the FA Cup over Man City! Amazing football on display there π