July 1st, 2017
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What did You Think of The Doctor Falls?
Now that the Final episode of series 10 has been aired what did you think? Was it everything you had hoped for or not what you expected.
The Mondasian Cybermen are on the rise. It’s time for the Doctor’s final battle…
The Doctor is played by Peter Capaldi, Bill by Pearl Mackie and Nardole by Matt Lucas. Michelle Gomez guest stars as Missy and John Simm stars as the Master.
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Peter Capaldi returns as Doctor Who for twelve thrilling adventures. He is joined by new companion, Bill (played by Pearl Mackie), along with returning loveable alien, Nardole (played by Matt Lucas).
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The Living Shadow
July 4th, 2017 - 11:17pmI was thinking exactly that too! I hope he is alright.
Doctor Stu
July 4th, 2017 - 8:11pmMoffat said he kept Bill alive so Chibnall could make up his mind about what to do with her which is no way to run a show but whatever. I’d have preferred instead of Heather saving the day out of nowhere, Bill symbolically takes the Doctor back to the TARDIS where he belongs and deactivates her life support unit killing herself after thinking the Doctor has died and refusing to live as a cyberman. The Doctor will wake up see a dead bill, stumble outside and still have his encounter with the first doctor in the Christmas special and in the closing scenes where it’s handed over to Chibnall his first piece of dialogue could confirm whether Bill was dead or not going forward from then. That would leave her fate hanging after Saturday’s episode and would have avoided the fairy tale nonsense that we actually got. But that’s just my opinion; the final scenes were fine with me right until moffat had to ruin it by adding one piece of dialogue ‘I can put you back whenether you want’ or something like that suggesting that instead of Bill being in her own little afterlife she can actually be saved and restored whenether she chooses. Put a big bullet through the episode for me. But these are just my opinions.
Anonymous
July 4th, 2017 - 12:35pmIf the Saxon Master does end up regenerating into the Missy Master, (there are theories out there that suggest that Missy may be an incarnation several regenerations away from the Saxon Master as she never answered him when he said “You must be the next one along”), that would lead nicely into Dark Water where the Doctor first meets Missy as she has the Cybermen under her control – this could be from the ship in The Doctor Falls.
Thoughts?
Tim M
July 4th, 2017 - 11:16amOverall the RTD finale stories have been better and more coherent. Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways’ is my favourite.
r1ch1e
July 4th, 2017 - 7:30amTim M I agree! My favorite finale even now is Army of Ghosts/Doomsday and when you look at those stories and indeed others from the RTD era, they started with a threat and gradually built up the tension to an amazing climax. Beginning, middle and end.
Tim M
July 4th, 2017 - 6:00amIndeed. After the events of ‘World Enough and Time’, you would have expected ‘The Doctor Falls’ to be even more darker in tone. So setting it completely in the rundown city would have been a more dramatic and worthy finale. Plus that cold and sinister Surgeon could have had a bigger role in the second episode.
Mr. J
July 3rd, 2017 - 11:39pmI wish they spent longer in the hellish apocalyptic setting of the city and spent more time with the masters actually feeling like sinister villains and a threat to the Doctor rather than the flirtatious side characters they became! That is my only complaint with the episode, considering it was such a huge deal that John Simm was coming back; I thought they made poor use of him – up until the point where he killed Missy! Just would have loved more time at the beginning with the Master being actually a threat to the doctor!
Stop that TARDIS
July 3rd, 2017 - 11:05pmOh don’t worry, Nardole WILL be back for one final episode 😉
Tim M
July 3rd, 2017 - 10:11pmI often criticise Moffat’s writing, but even I would say he is one of the best writers the show has ever had. He has written some of the best and well remembered stories for each of the Doctors we’ve had since 2005. That is a remarkable achievement. My main nagging issue with Moffat’s style of writing, is this constant need to jump back or forwards several hours, days, weeks, months ect, at the start, or middle of an episode. I find it grating, and it’s like a flow of a story being interrupted by an advert break. It’s not clever, and more importantly not adequate for Saturday night early evening family viewing. That belongs in a TV slot for Sunday nights, such as Moffat’s and Gatiss ‘Sherlock’. Moffat’s strong points have been characterisation, humour, decent drama and the casting of 2 or 3 superb Doctors, Smith, Capaldi and Hurt. I just wish more of his stories had a beginning, middle and end, and in THAT order! I think Mr Moffat tried to be different and unpredictable with his style of storytelling. The trouble was this jumping back and forth in the middle of crucial scenes became more ironically predictable.
Simon W
July 3rd, 2017 - 10:08pmWow love the poster.
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 9:13pmAlthough Megan Fox would have been better.
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 9:12pmNever thought of that, excellent point.
Jordan Scott
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:59pmI was wondering that too due to the irony of there actually being a Cyberman Bill now
Neal T
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:54pmWell the debate rolls on about the Doctor becoming a female Doctor next. But I think they have missed the best time to do this.It should have been a female War Doctor (please, I’m not saying John Hurt was bad, he was outstandingly brilliant!!).But the Sisterhood could have influenced the regeneration of the 8th Doctor to become a female Doctor, and how fantastic would it have been to have Helen Mirren as the War Doctor for the 50th Anniversary?!! Now it just seems like a gender change would be just a gimmick.
starshipalaska
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:48pmReally amazing episode. Peter Capaldi’s acting and Rachel Talalay’s direction were just supreme.
I loved his speech to the Masters about being kind and it went in perfect tandem with the lack of incidental music, only a quiet birdsong.
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:31pmeluma narty you have the right to want and expect better, I also feel the same way and have said so many times before, hopefully you are right about Chris Chibnall giving the show a right kick up the backside it desperately needs.
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:25pm1994 you are not wrong, well said.
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:21pmUnderstatement of the year I do believe 🙂
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:20pmHe has left a legacy I agree, some of it was brilliant but overshadowed by the poor writing and decisions he made. For a so called fan he sure has split the fan base with some of his ideas, that were uterly uncalled for.
Pats86
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:14pmMuch better than last season’s final Hell Bent, it was OK. Capaldi as good as ever, the Master/Missy were good together although it was disturbing watching them flirt I found that uncalled for and creepy, but killing each other off was rather good, Missy is actually going to be able to regenerate I hope?
Lots of lose end’s as we have come to expect from Moffat but I can live with that.
Moving on to the future I wish they would either have a female Doctor or write something into the shows cannon to make it impossible for him to change gender (considering gender is as fluid as Moffat keeps telling us it is, amazing that throughout the Doctors whole first set of regenerations he never did change gender, or indeed the first of his new set) it’s become boring now and is a distraction to the show I feel.
I will miss Capaldi’s Doctor, he has been brilliant and it’s a shame it was Moffat that wrote for him because it could have been so much better under someone else!
Whorules
July 3rd, 2017 - 7:37pmHe does leave an astonishing legacy. I wish him every sucess in the future and i hope he can fit in the occasionally who episode!
Exterminator
July 3rd, 2017 - 7:06pmOh no, get well soon Cyberman Bill.
prototype dalek
July 3rd, 2017 - 6:38pmlast I heard he was quite ill and was in hospital, hope he is more better though
47
July 3rd, 2017 - 5:24pmWith Nardole/Lucas, I never see the point of littering episodes with “light comic relief”. It aint funny, and it is badly delivered.
We have a seriously good actor as The Doctor, and the episode(s) are supposed to dramatic and I don’t want to be cringing on the back of drama with cheap throwaway lines which litters the piece and narrative, ruining the dramatic prose, and this series has been littered with Nardole/Lucas gabbling away
If I want buffoonery, I’d waste my money on the Matt Smith era box sets.
We have (had) a superb actor in Capaldi who could have given the whole show a lot of maturation, and I just think bad comedy and bad comedic characters used as comic relief is a waste of space and under-minds the story – especially a dramatic one – and indeed – the whole show !
Tim M
July 3rd, 2017 - 12:54pmThe two Masters were played well, and had some good lines. But they did very little overall, so they were wasted too.
Exterminator
July 3rd, 2017 - 12:28pmWhere’s Cyberman Bill?
Not Pearl Mackie, I’m talking about the long time member of this site. I haven’t seen him comment in a while. He’s had the username Cyberman Bill for years and now there actually is a Cyberman Bill! I’d like to know what he thinks about that?
Exterminator
July 3rd, 2017 - 12:16pmI agree, the Moff man tried to cram in too much given that he had to write a story featuring 2 Masters and only had an hour length episode. Unfortunately the mad surgeon quickly got forgotten.
As for the 2 Masters, that was wasted to. They didn’t actually do anything apart from stab each other in the back. I really wanted to see the Masters Tardis being flown into battle by Missy who saves the Doctor as payback for him sparing her life when she was about to be executed. Then in a moment of anger and hatred the Master could’ve shot her, that would’ve made more sense.
Tim M
July 3rd, 2017 - 11:59amThe Surgeon was the most cold and sinister character in the whole story, and he was only featured in a couple of brief scenes. That was an alternative narrative that would have been more interesting following, and ultimately meeting his comeuppance. A great character completely wasted.
Exterminator
July 3rd, 2017 - 11:48amI know what you mean, there was a mad surgeon doing the upgrades and converting humans into Cybermen and yet the doctor practically ignores this and lets him carry on to create even more. This guy is to the Cybermen what Davros is to the Daleks, their creator! Huge plot hole and missed opportunity to have a fantastic new villain.
I think they needed to have a countryside setting just so they could do loads of explosions in the finale, for obvious reasons your no longer allowed to blow things up in cities.
Tim M
July 3rd, 2017 - 8:10amSurely ‘The Doctor Falls’ should have been entirely set where the Cybermen were being created, in a dark, gloomy and foreboding floor level, rather than a seemingly open countryside mostly in daylight. The Doctor was shown by the Master, innocent people being taken to be converted into Cybermen. The story should have been one where the Doctor is making a stand, and trying to stop anyone else being converted in the factories. Thus preventing the further development of the Cybermen. Would have been better than saving people in a lovely countryside. One last point, don’t the Mondasian Cybermen look better in darkness rather than daylight.