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June 24th, 2017 56 comments

Series 10 Episode 12 The Doctor Falls Saturday 1st July 6.30pm

The Doctor Falls. Written by Steven Moffat and directed by Rachel Talalay.

The Mondasian Cybermen are on the rise. It’s time for the Doctor’s final battle…

The Doctor is played by Peter Capaldi, Bill by Pearl Mackie and Nardole by Matt Lucas. Michelle Gomez guest stars as Missy and John Simm stars as the Master.


56 comments

  • Mr. J

    June 25th, 2017 - 11:49pm

    I do not like seeing flying mondasian cybermen!

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  • Pats86

    June 25th, 2017 - 4:07pm

    Reading some of the coments from the Facebook questions last night, Moffat seems to be hinting that Bill is not going to stay a Cyberman, if that’s the case can we have the show since Clara’s arrival in the Snowmen xmas special up until now as a dream and let Chibnall clean up the mess Moffat keeps making?
    Hopefully Bill is dead/a Cyberman but I seriously doubt it and the impact it had last night will be all undone…..Again!

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    • Anonymous

      June 25th, 2017 - 6:45pm

      Whatever.

    • pats86

      June 25th, 2017 - 10:02pm

      Well like it or not it is a fact!

    • pats86

      June 25th, 2017 - 10:11pm

      Meaning Moffat keeps messing up.

    • Anonymous

      June 25th, 2017 - 11:14pm

      If she’s not a Cyberman it’s likely it’s going to be down to Chibnall wanting to keep her on, not because Moffat wanted to give her a happy ending.

  • DannyTheNerd

    June 25th, 2017 - 3:01pm

    I think Missy will actually become good. At first I didn’t, but after watching these trailers, I think she is going to struggle whether to side with herself or The Doctor. Ultimately I think she’ll end up sacrficing herself to save the Doctor and everyone, by killing The Master.

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    • Anonymous

      June 25th, 2017 - 10:20pm

      I think she’ll help the Doctor defeat the Cyber army and then betray him striking the fatal blow that forces him into his regeneration cycle

  • therealwhovian63

    June 25th, 2017 - 9:59am

    This master must be before he half saved 10 as he isnt skeleton and refuses to stand with the doctor in the next time.

    So
    This means its after harold saxon as he says someones former priminister. But this cant work as he dies straight after last of the timelords and is reserected in the end of time. He clearly hasnt experienced the end of time yet otherwise hed be alot more insane and the skeleton would of been in the nexttime bit. So if its after the last of time lords and before the end of time could this mean hes revisited a face. I definetly cant be when he was priminister other wise he wouldnt of said former. Any theories. Mine is as i stated up there hes revisited a few or once he got back to gallifrey they cured him of the half life thing but why wont he stand with the doctor if he saved him. Hmmm

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    • Doctor Stu

      June 25th, 2017 - 2:45pm

      It’s weird because there’s no room for him before the end of time it has to be afterwards, maybe when he returned to gallifrey his madness died down a bit because wasn’t the drum beat in his head cancelled out when the timelords were dragged back to gallifey and the link was broken.

    • therealwhovian63

      June 25th, 2017 - 4:26pm

      Yeah but where would je get the laser screwdriver, who’d have sonic, and is he still half life

    • T4RD1S

      June 26th, 2017 - 2:04am

      He could’ve found a way to get rid of the skeleton thing

  • Hector Sandler

    June 25th, 2017 - 9:17am

    Does he regenerate or Do we wait & The Christmas Special. I still terrified it might be a Woman but I got couple of actor who I favour as the next Doctor.

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    • doctor who fan 11

      June 25th, 2017 - 9:31am

      i’m terrified too. i have no issue with a woman being the doctor. but am worried whether it would work, and would prefer a man for traditions sake. Also felt twelfths talk with bill on genders last night meant something to do with it, but really hoping it doesn’t

    • Mick181

      June 25th, 2017 - 11:34am

      Work fine with the right actress but it’s a gamble and there will be a backlash simply because shes a Woman.

    • Pats86

      June 25th, 2017 - 3:56pm

      I wouldn’t say I’m terrified but I would be disappointed because it would cause a backlash no matter who the actress is.
      It did not need to put into the the shows cannon and it clearly has caused a split among fans be it old and new, Moffat and the BBC knew this would happen but they clearly have their own agenda.

    • r1ch1e

      June 25th, 2017 - 8:46pm

      I remember being terrified it would be a lady doctor when Matt Smith left but now I’m getting more used to the idea and I think I would welcome it!

    • pats86

      June 25th, 2017 - 10:04pm

      I would still watch but many would also stop watching.

  • The Dalek Whovian

    June 24th, 2017 - 8:28pm

    I feel like this was meant to be a 50th anniversary celebration for the Cybermen with old designs coming back. A late party is better than no party and this looks good

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  • 1

    June 24th, 2017 - 7:41pm

    With the ship travelling at different time rates the cyber men’s gradual upgrades have all happened, hence why we are going to see most versions of the cybermen.

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    • prototype dalek

      June 24th, 2017 - 8:15pm

      Does this mean we will see late 60’s, 70’s and 80’s Cybermen?

    • The Outcast

      June 25th, 2017 - 2:35am

      I hope we do see the 80s Cybermen atleast as that would be…
      EXCELLENT!

    • Tim M

      June 25th, 2017 - 11:24am

      Indeed. The 80’s Cybermen would be great to see again. They definitely shouldn’t miss out on the Cybermen’s reunion party in next Saturday’s episode.

    • prototype dalek

      June 25th, 2017 - 1:16pm

      Would make more sense to have more than the originals and the new series ones

    • Tim M

      June 25th, 2017 - 4:04pm

      Yes, let’s have ‘The Moonbase’ and ‘Tomb of the Cybermen’ versions, plus ‘The Wheel in Space’ versions, and ‘The Invasion’ and ‘Revenge of the Cybermen’ similar versions too.

  • prototype dalek

    June 24th, 2017 - 7:36pm

    Really looking forward to this episode a lot!

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    • caylem molyneux

      June 25th, 2017 - 10:41am

      the out cast I wish that Cybermen vs a dalack

  • Doctor no more

    June 17th, 2017 - 10:00pm

    What if the new doctor is played by. ….John simm? He’d be brilliant

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    • Sherlock Holmes

      June 24th, 2017 - 8:10pm

      That really wouldn’t work.
      Firstly, he’s much more suitable for an evil role
      Secondly, then there would be the doctor and the master with the same face

  • Doctor Stu

    June 16th, 2017 - 8:11pm

    What if Missy regenerates into Derek Jacobi id be shook. Don’t know where that thought came from but…

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    • therealwhovian63

      June 16th, 2017 - 8:58pm

      Thatd make sense. I thought that from dark water when i first saw her as missy but then i thought itd be stupid. Its good to see some people think the same things. The reason i thought it from the dark water two parter is that we didnt see a regen from roberts to jacobi and moffat used thw same thing for 8 to war

    • Nigel M

      June 17th, 2017 - 10:26pm

      Here’s what I’d like to see happen.

      John Simms tries to kill The Doctor but Missy sacrifices herself to save him. She regenerates into Derek Jacobi and Simms escapes. Jacobi is disoriented from the regeneration so the Doctor takes the opportunity to use the fob watch on him then takes him to the far future and leaves him there as Professor Yana. Sorted.

    • Dan23

      June 24th, 2017 - 7:36pm

      They’re doing audio Story series with Derek Jacobs as the war master.

    • The moff

      June 24th, 2017 - 7:48pm

      John Simms said in the episode that he was missy’s past and she his future self so no it wouldn’t make sense for Jacobi to turn up

    • Jake

      June 24th, 2017 - 9:30pm

      I think Missy definitely comes before The Master- she said that she didn’t remember about being on the ship, so I don’t think she’s been on the ship yet

    • Dr phil

      June 24th, 2017 - 10:12pm

      I think missy’s amnesia will have something to do with how this plays out. Maybe Simms is mind wiped at the end?

    • The Outcast

      June 25th, 2017 - 2:36am

      No, I think it’s implied Missy is from the far future, hence she can’t remember.

  • r1ch1e

    June 16th, 2017 - 8:28am

    What would be cool is if at the end of the finale he died but had his ability to regenerate suspended!
    Then the Christmas special could be a Life on Mars type episode where he has to work out, in his own mind, what he needs to do to regenerate.
    And all the old doctors could be there playing different characters guiding him in the right direction! We could even see 13 playing a part.
    Moffat did say he was working with Chibnall on a different regeneration.
    That’s just what I would do though. Seems silly now ive written it down.

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    • The Outcast

      June 16th, 2017 - 1:15pm

      I think something similar might happen. I think at the end of the finale, we’ll see 12 become 13 and this will be set just before then with Twelve being guided through his Regeneration by the First Doctor. We’ll probably see a lot of cameos from past people, Clara (who he’ll probably remember) maybe other Doctor’s, Susan, Bill and Nardole (depends on what happens to them tho), maybe River and Captain Jack too?

    • Doctor Stu

      June 16th, 2017 - 8:08pm

      Wouldn’t it be great if Susan comes back at the end to guide him into his next regeneration like Amy did for eleven

    • Doctor Stu

      June 16th, 2017 - 8:11pm

      Jack 100% needs it return it would be long overdue

    • Doctor Who Insider

      June 17th, 2017 - 3:14am

      That would be great

    • Jordan Scott

      June 17th, 2017 - 6:41pm

      That would be fantastic the Outcast!

  • Pats86

    June 16th, 2017 - 6:50am

    Whatever happens it will be better than season nines finale, it couldn’t be any worse could it?
    Very excited to see Simm’s Master again and the Mondasian Cybermen. The best thing that could happen is Capaldi’s Doctor regenerating at the end and shocking us all with an earlier than expected new Doctor, Moffat throwing a major shock with the Xmas special being Chibnall’s first episode. (Must add that I will miss Capaldi’s Doctor)

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    • The Outcast

      June 16th, 2017 - 1:17pm

      Quote from Pats86: ‘Whatever happens will be better than season nines finale, *it couldn’t be any worse could it?*’

      You’ve doomed us all. You’ve Jinxed it.

    • pats86

      June 16th, 2017 - 2:28pm

      Oh great, thanks for that! If it is worse (don`t see how it could be) I will never forgive myself 🙁

    • Sherlock Holmes

      June 24th, 2017 - 8:16pm

      What have you done?! You’ve killed us all!!!

  • Jordan Scott

    June 15th, 2017 - 11:42pm

    I’m really hyped for the finale, I really hope it’s one of the best ever if not THE best! It’d be great to have my expectations exceeded and for both Moffat and Capaldi to go out with a bang.

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    • Tim M

      June 16th, 2017 - 5:33pm

      I always find it’s best to down play expectations, that way, if you are disappointed, you won’t have a bigger fall from excitement.

    • Doctor Stu

      June 16th, 2017 - 8:06pm

      Yeh expect the least and then enjoy what actually happens. That’s how I’ve got through series 10, expecting it to be abysmal and then being pleasantly surprised when the episode actually turns out to be watchable.

    • Tim M

      June 16th, 2017 - 8:11pm

      Too often in the past I’ve hyped myself up for a great story, only to be left feeling flat after it. I’ve learned to go into it with an open mind, and just see what develops. The disappointment isn’t as bad then.

  • Tim M

    June 15th, 2017 - 9:36pm

    So it’s the Doctor’s final battle apparently. So does that mean we will start to see the 12th Doctor regenerate at the end, but will be complicated transformation, that will inhabit the whole of the Christmas Special?

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    • Doctor Stu

      June 16th, 2017 - 8:05pm

      Is it just me who’d love an emotional Christmas special with the Doctor just phasing in and out of consciousness and revisiting all his previous companions from his run and wrapping up his story and then regenerating at the end

    • Tim M

      June 16th, 2017 - 8:08pm

      I’m hoping the Valeyard comes about from this complex regeneration. That would tie up a loose end of the classic series.

  • Doctor Stu

    June 15th, 2017 - 8:48pm

    Mondasian cybermen are on the rise which means their introduced in the first half which is great more cyberman action

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  • The Temporal Jelly Baby

    June 15th, 2017 - 6:19pm

    Nice and short with no major spoilers. A major improvement on the synopsis for Heaven Sent in 2015 (spoiled the return of Gallifrey). Let’s just hope the next time trailers follow suit.

    Reply

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