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Series 10 Episode 12 The Doctor Falls Saturday 1st July 6.30pm
The Doctor Falls. Written by Steven Moffat and directed by Rachel Talalay.
The Mondasian Cybermen are on the rise. It’s time for the Doctor’s final battle…
The Doctor is played by Peter Capaldi, Bill by Pearl Mackie and Nardole by Matt Lucas. Michelle Gomez guest stars as Missy and John Simm stars as the Master.
pats86
June 29th, 2017 - 1:15pmMuch better than the last two seasons, but should be better than we have been given.
The Pilot 6/10
Smile 6/10
Thin Ice 6/10
Knock Knock 6/10
Oxygen 7/10
Extremis 5/10
The Pyramid at the End of the World 4/10
The Lie of the Land 3/10
Empress of Mars 7/10
Eaters of Light 6/10
World Enough and Time 8/10
Pats86
June 29th, 2017 - 10:59amNone of the reviews say anything much about the conclusion and nothing the regeneration shots we have seen? So they haven’t seen it or keeping it completely spoiler free!
Pats86
June 29th, 2017 - 10:56amI have seen them too, I fully agree.
Doctor Who Insider
June 29th, 2017 - 1:11amThe Pilot 7/10
Smile 8/10
Thin Ice 9/10
Knock Knock 9/10
Oxygen 10/10
Extremis 10/10
The Pyramid at the End of the World 10/10
The Lie of the Land 6/10
Empress of Mars 8/10
Eaters of Light 9/10
World Enough and Time 10/10
Tim M
June 29th, 2017 - 12:42amI’ve seen a couple of spoiler free reviews, and I think it’s safe to say, it doesn’t quite live up to expectations, after what was amazingly built up in ‘World Enough and Time’. That’s not to say it will be terrible, no one seems to be saying that, but it might be best to approach this episode with no expectations, and to turn down our excitement a few notches.
Doctor Stu
June 28th, 2017 - 9:51pmOnly in Doctor Who could a character say ‘she was my man crush’ and it make complete sense
Weeping Angel
June 28th, 2017 - 9:03pmSmie is my second favourite Doctor Who story ever, after Blink, and Thin Ice is one of my worst.
Anonymous
June 28th, 2017 - 7:55pmI don’t know about ratings but my order of the series is:
1 – World Enough and Time
2 – Empress of Mars
3 – The Pyramid at the End of the World
4 – The Pilot
5 – Smile
6 – The Lie of the Land
7 – The Return of Doctor Mysterio
8 – Oxygen
9 – Thin Ice
10 – Knock Knock
11 -Extremis
12 – The Eaters of Light
Tim M
June 28th, 2017 - 5:20pmApart from the hit and miss ‘Monk’ trilogy, and I felt rather just below average ‘Eaters of Light’, this has been a fantastic series. Easily Capaldi’s best series by some considerable margin. I only hope ‘The Doctor Falls’ finishes the series in style.
DannyTheNerd
June 28th, 2017 - 5:02pmSeries 10 had a bit of a shaky start, but has gradually become a fantastic series! Here’s my rankings
The Pilot 6/10
Smile 7/10
Thin Ice 5/10
Knock Knock 7/10
Oxygen 8/10
Extremis 9/10
The Pyramid at the End of the World 7/10
The Lie of the Land 8/10
The Empress of Mars 8/10
The Eaters of Light 7.5/10
World Enough and Time 9/10
i think I’ll probably end up giving The Doctor Falls a 10/10 as it looks to be the greatest Doctor Who episode ever
Pats86
June 28th, 2017 - 4:51pmMy fear is it could cause such a split in the fan base and might be cancelled as whovian says, there is absolutely no need for him to change gender no reason at all.
What are the chances of a time lord staying the same gender throughout his whole 12 regenerations if gender is fluid on Gallifrey? And if he regenerates into a female, is he still his kids dad or mum, or Susan’s Grandmother? Would his wife if she meets him again want to be married to woman? If indeed she is still a female herself? Can Moffat answer these and other questions? It becomes a mess as I see it! And probably not on my own.
Yet more plot holes from Moffat
Tim M
June 28th, 2017 - 2:58pmThe Pilot 7/10
Smile 9/10
Thin Ice 7/10
Knock Knock 9/10
Oxygen 10/10
Extremis 9/10
The Pyramid at the End of the World 7/10
The Lie of the Land 6/10
The Empress of Mars 9/10
The Eaters of Light 5/10
World Enough and Time 10/10
Tim M
June 28th, 2017 - 12:06pmShe has already shot the Doctor four times in ‘The Lie of the Land’…and that seemed far fetched and unlikely.
Jordan Scott
June 28th, 2017 - 11:14amThe Pilot: 8/10
Smile: 6/10
Thin Ice: 6/10
Knock Knock: 6/10
Oxygen: 8/10
Extremis: 6/10
The Pyramid at the End of the World: 7/10
The Lie of the Land: 7/10
Empress of Mars: 9/10
The Eaters of Light: 5/10
World Enough and Time: 10/10
The Doctor Falls: Hopefully 10/10!
spike
June 28th, 2017 - 8:31amyeah and this would be a way to introduce the idea of the Doctor as a woman to the audience.
As for Whovian’s question it was Brain of Morbius where this happened. Also I’m pretty sure Steven Moffat has discussed this idea before in DWM.
Doctor Stu
June 27th, 2017 - 10:57pmAt first I thought the Doctor and the two masters were going to team up and sort out their differences judging by the trailer which I didn’t want but now I’m thinking that maybe all the cyberman go rogue and decide they don’t need the masters help to get to the top of the ship they can do it themselves. so I’m thinking the trio form a sort of alliance to stop the cybermen from killing them all but whilst remaining enemies.
I’d also love a scene where Missy starts to stumble around or feel faint and starts getting flashbacks and new memories a bit like Clara in the name of the Doctor to sort out the timeline, maybe a scene of simm regenerating or escaping the time lords so we can establish their order definitively and give an explanation as to why she never remembers meeting herself or being onboard the ship. Just a throwaway line where she’s feeling a bit sick or she holds her forehead as if she’s going to faint and says ‘my memories are changing’. I hate the whole situation where a character should remember something but doesn’t for some reason just to serve the plot. The issue is sort of present in day of the Doctor because at what point do the war doctors memories stop to be able to convince him that he blew up gallifrey and killed his people.
Exterminator
June 27th, 2017 - 10:51pmJet packs on their backs would be so much more believable than flying jet boots. I mean, in the tenth planet the Mondasian Cybermen are just wearing silver Doc Martins! I like the jet pack idea.
Mick181
June 27th, 2017 - 9:35pmHow’s this one, Bill is converted back declares total hatred of the Doctor for “deserting her” and she’s the one that shoots the Doctor causing the Regeneration and then goes off with the Master and or Missy.
Something totally different in the History of Dr Who, a companion who comes to despise him.
Sounds kinda cool.
r1ch1e
June 27th, 2017 - 9:16pmTim M I like that! That’s cool
Tim M
June 27th, 2017 - 8:00pmLooks like it. However, this is going to be a complicated and not straight forward Regeneration. I’m thinking the 12th and 13th Doctors might regenerate back and forth, until it eventually settles at the end of the Xmas special. Or is the 12th Doctor trying to hold back his regeneration to prevent an evil 13th incarnation…The Valeyard!
Giles Kent
June 27th, 2017 - 6:59pmIs the Doctors regeneration taking place at the South Pole? !986 ?
The Temporal Jelly Baby
June 27th, 2017 - 6:14pmOf course, I agree. If the Doctor becomes a woman in order to ‘fix’ the show then I won’t be all that happy as, just as you said, there’s nothing to fix. The Doctor doesn’t need to be female.
However, that doesn’t mean he can’t be. On the contrary, it has been firmly established that he can regenerate into a woman. So it does not necessarily have to be about ‘fixing’ anything but just casting a woman because she happens to be a good choice for the role.
Now, as for the potential effect on the show, that’s hard to predict. I agree that the 1st episode would likely get a lot of viewers and I suspect that the ratings for following episodes would largely depend on the reception from the first few.
whovian
June 27th, 2017 - 5:04pmThis is how i see the Doctor as female working:
The Doctor is now a woman, the first ep of s11 gets many views just to test the waters. With each following ep of s11 the views fall and fall. And the BBC decide that due to poor ratings, Doctor Who is cancelled for the first time since 1989.
The head writer then starts a casting session to find a new lead male actor to porttay the Doctor and companion, but has trouble as viewers wont trust that it will be a male again after all the lies Moffat has made and so the show’s future becomes unclear.
From 23rd Nov. 1963 up till and including 1st July 2017 the Doctor has been a white male all that time, there is no need to fix something thaf IS NOT broken.
Pats86
June 27th, 2017 - 4:51pmMeaning he could have been female before Hartnell?
Pats86
June 27th, 2017 - 4:50pmIt could happen, the Doctor said he couldn’t remember if he had a man crush on the Master when he was young as a man or not?
I would not put it past Moffat to give the Doctor several incarnations before Hartnell!
whovian
June 27th, 2017 - 4:49pmThat could (unfortunately) make sense since an old episode of classic Dr Who, wasnt there a scene of pre-first doctor doctors? Im a young Whovian but i know ive heard of the scene before.
Tim M
June 27th, 2017 - 4:48pmThe ‘Radio Times’ does say in the latest issue that Pearl Mackie departs in ‘The Doctor Fall’. So I’m certain she won’t be staying on. But I wish her well. Pearl is a fine actress, and deserves to go onto great things.
whovian
June 27th, 2017 - 4:46pmI doubt very highly that they would spend any production costs on any of that or keep viewers inclined to watch it. The only thing i could see happening, but it wont is that Missy turns out to be Rani or Romana or something like that.
But as i say, very, very doubtful.
DannyTheNerd
June 27th, 2017 - 4:14pmI hope not
Tim M
June 27th, 2017 - 3:06pmI reckon the fact we seen a tear from Bill’s eye at the end of ‘World Enough and Time’ suggests she hasn’t been fully converted, and it’s an emotional trap for the Doctor. In other words, she could well be saved in some form.