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What Did You Think of Episode 7 Kill The Moon?

In the near future, the Doctor and Clara find themselves on a space shuttle making a suicide mission to the Moon.

Crash-landing on the lunar surface, they find a mining base full of corpses, vicious spider-like creatures poised to attack, and a terrible dilemma.

When Clara turns to the Doctor for help, she gets the shock of her life.

Now that the 7th episode of series 8 has been aired what did you think? Was it everything you had hoped for or not what you expected…









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223 comments

  • justyn

    October 5th, 2014 - 4:19pm

    I will listen and respect anyone’s opinion on Doctor Who as long as I get that respect back.I am enjoying this series a lot as it goes,not sure about Danny yet though.
    This series is being slated on here a lot yet look at the polls for each episode and the general view is they are good episodes so the comments contradict that which just seems strange.
    I also find it hard to believe that life long fans are giving up on it but that is there own choice.

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    • booboo

      October 5th, 2014 - 5:00pm

      The people who don’t like are always the more vocal group

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 7:34pm

      Trust me…as a 40 something fan who has a lot of friends of the same age…not one of us are giving up on the show…in fact we love it as much as we ever have.

      As Booboo, said the minority of fans who dislike it are far more vocal than the majority who are enjoying it…so don’t worry 🙂

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 11:45pm

      I am in the ‘negative’ camp with regards to series 8 and the 12th Doctor. In fairness to you, I agree with the assertion that the negatives are becoming more vocal. I wouldn’t have agreed with you 6 weeks ago, but as I have become more disappointed I have increasingly wanted to vent my views. And my friends have mostly done the same so I agree that’s probably why the balance of the polls and comments differ. I am still a big Dr Who fan, which is why I bother to post, and I guess that’s the same for most Whovians in the ‘negative’ camp… if we’re all still commenting, positively or negatively, then we’re all still watching and we all still care. Would you like a jelly baby??

    • The Doctor Wolf

      October 6th, 2014 - 4:17pm

      I’ve noticed that many so-called ‘life-long fans’ who’ve ‘watched from the beginning’
      And who ‘prefer the classic series’ seem to have Regenerated into teenage fan-girls who are giving up on the show because, and I quote! “He’s not like Matt Smith”
      Or “Moffat is too complicated and incoherent”
      I think this series is the most classic-themed since the shows revival, and is damn good too!
      Capaldi IS The Doctor, and one of my personal faves!
      I have no time for haters and fan-girls

  • 100,000BC

    October 5th, 2014 - 2:31pm

    My thoughts on the main cast in this episode:

    Contrary to what other people have said, I think that Peter Capaldi in this episode is very much in keeping with the character of the Doctor. After realising that a lot of his guilt and grief for a few hundred years has been over nothing (he didn’t destroy Gallifrey), and then spending 900 years defending one town from a mess that he himself was instrumental in creating in many ways, the new Doctor has a lot to think about. He is confused, and has a lot of time to think about how he acts, and he realises that maybe if he lets people make their own decisions then maybe that sort of thing might not happen so often.
    Also the new Doctor seems slightly vulnerable and weak, which is why he is so rude at times. He is genuinely confused by the human way of thinking, as is evident in the scene where Clara shouts at him.

    Also, in her defence, Clara acts totally reasonably towards the Doctor’s behaviour.

    Courtney has some of the most realistic reactions to time and space travel I have seen.

    Danny Pink, the wise old soldier turned maths teacher. Remind you of someone? (think 1983)

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  • Matthew Hester

    October 5th, 2014 - 2:16pm

    I have been a fan of Doctor Who since 2005 and have loved every single episode to date. But this series has been terrible. Kill The Moon has got to be the worst episode to date! I felt this series has been based around Clara way to much! Courtney is really annoying and not needed in the show! The Spiders were not even used that much so what was the point! I hope next weeks episode is betterotherwise I will not be amused.

    MOFFAT IMPROVE YOUR WRITING OR LEAVE THE SHOW

    Reply
    • 100,000BC

      October 5th, 2014 - 2:33pm

      But Moffat doesn’t write every episode…?

    • Matthew Hester

      October 5th, 2014 - 2:33pm

      Yes I know, but he has to approve whether the script is good enough or not

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 3:39pm

      A better idea would for you to stop watching the show.

  • Jimbo

    October 5th, 2014 - 1:54pm

    Sorry but there are so many rigid plot devices in Moffats version of Dr Who that it’s really made me appreciate just how good Russell T Davies actually was. The main one being 15mins into each episode fat/ugly/bald/man/with two lines of dialogue and no emotional investment in character is killed by monster to demonstrate how dangerous monster is. Then we know after that that no one else will be killed as this function has been demonstrated on minor character whos death causes no offence and has no consequence. RTD with Ecclestone, Tenant and Smith was tremendous at giving shocks and variety with regards various characters mortality that it could be tragic and genuinely surprising all the way through each episode. Even my kids predict it now and are wondering what’s happening with the stories. It is like the red shirt Star Trek guys. Predictable and lazy- Moffat is showing how good RTD was. Making it for the US a la Primeval stylee with these plot devices will please no one and lead to ruin.

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    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 2:17pm

      RTD only ever wrote one Matt Smith story (and that was in the SJA). Get your facts right before attacking someone.

      RTD’s stuff was just as predictable as Moffat’s, if not more so.

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 3:41pm

      RTD has to be praised for how he brought the show back but his writing was very questionable…he turned DW into a soap opera and arguably the beststories of his time were written by S Moffatt.

  • Graham

    October 5th, 2014 - 12:55pm

    Having been a Dr Who Fan since attending the Boys and Girls Exhibition London in 1964. Since this time the Dr has been a character with many faces and has always had an untold dark side.

    Trying to bring the Dr into the 21st century is no easy task as everything in this century appears to need violence and darkness, however Peter Capaldi as great as he is as an actor is crucifying the Dr’s image. His evil tendencies and lack of remorse in some scenes are not in my opinion Dr Who. I sincerely hope that you can not only help Capaldi turn his image around and return the Dr back into the quirky eccentric time lord we know and love.

    Understanding each regeneration has to be its own manifestation of who the Dr should be based on the actors ability,I believe Matt Smith and David Tenant were the epitome of the Dr.

    At 56 I am far from ready to see the Dr regenerate into a dark and sorry Time Lord that c an not be saved.

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    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 1:28pm

      First Doctor – a-morral
      Second Doctor – used his companions as pawns in his gameplan
      Third Doctor – had an utter contempt for most humans
      Fourth Docor – void of emotion
      Fifth Doctor – Allowed Adrics death
      Sixth Doctor – Tried to kill Peri
      Seventh Doctor – Committed Genocide
      Eighth Doctor – allowed Lucie to die
      War Doctor – say no more
      Ninth Doctor – abnoxious

      You seemed to forgot that the Doctor has always been an anti hero with a darkness that he more often than not keeps in check…but its always been there. The 12th is similar in a lot if ways to the First and I for one am enjoying his more direct approach and I’m sure like most other incarnation he will evolve as time goes on. After all we’re only half way through his first series.

  • Big D

    October 5th, 2014 - 12:28pm

    Really enjoyed this episode, especially the first half where the Doctor took the lead role. There was menace, suspense and humour.
    It would have been good to have had some more of the spider like creatures in the manner of the first death (almost Alien-ish).
    Courtney wasnt too bad in my opinion though I really hope she is kept to a minimum.
    For the first 30 minutes Clara wasnt too bad. She complimented the Doctor well. Even when she became the focus of the story I could accept that as the Doctor was forced into abandoning them to make their decision. It was a human decision that only they could make (an innocent creature vs human life).
    Remember how the fourth Doctor agonised over the destruction of the Daleks in Genesis? It made sense for him not to be a part of such a decision.
    However, Claras outburst at the end seemed somewhat contrived to me. It felt ‘added-on’ somehow and did her character no justice at all.
    All in all, possibly my second favourite episode to Time Heist.

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  • 2doctors2000

    October 5th, 2014 - 11:36am

    Great story with some massive let downs…
    To start I’m not sure whether I liked the concept of the Moon being an egg! Like all this time, through the adventures of the Doctor the Earth’s Moon has been an egg – and then by Waters of Mars it was a whole different Moon (egg). Okay…..
    Also, the way that Courtney was just casual with her teacher on the Moon, and the way that she didn’t even seem to have any sort of teacher student relationship with Clara was poor.
    I did like the reference to Tumblr however, and how it was referenced to Grandma in 2049 😛
    So does Coutrney become President of the US, what was going on with that at the end?
    And the Doctor was out of character, to put that much pressure on Clara, to risk the whole timeline of Earth just to prove a point – I don’t think anyone would believe in someone that much – and it wasn’t put across that it was his faith in Clara, but his stupidity, which I didn’t like.
    And what on Earth (or in Moon) was this massive creature that could flap its wings in a Vacum of space? What could be that big? Seriously!

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  • RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND

    October 5th, 2014 - 11:32am

    I have to say, I don’t know why Courteney had to be there, it was a waste of a space suit
    and i don’t even think he called her special or anything,
    that was a bit odd as i thought this doctor would hate children, it seemed he did and didn’t for her
    also, i would’ve quite liked it maybe if the Doctor didn’t come back, and Clara died on the base.
    It’s controversial, but I think that would’ve been a heroic end for her, and we all did know the doctor would come back anyway so…
    what do you guys think on that?

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    • the astronaut of death

      October 5th, 2014 - 5:53pm

      I thought it was good

  • The Surgeon

    October 5th, 2014 - 10:59am

    That’s more like it! Best so far. Probably. I loved Time Heist, but the love-creatures part of the plot was even more rushed than it was in Hide. This I thought was fantastic, not too scary, but really cool.
    Now for my weekly Clara rant! I actually don’t mind her to much in this episode, but her shouting at the Doctor to get into his box and fly away(although he’s clearly already in it) was… I don’t know how to describe it. For a Doctor who’s 100% Rebel Time Lord, I would have liked a scene where the Doctor’s shouting at her and she gets thrown out because she thinks she’s better than him.

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    • The Surgeon

      October 5th, 2014 - 11:09am

      1. Kill The Moon – Good plot, great acting, tense, exciting.
      2. Time Heist – Exciting, fantastic supporting cast, a bit rushed at the end.
      3. Listen – A mess, good premise with the monster under the bed, doesn’t go anywhere but sets up finale.
      4. Deep Breath – A revelation as it goes on for a three part episode of old and doesn’t do anything. Boring in hindsight but enjoyable-ish the first time.
      5. Into the Dalek – I’ve seen this before. It was called ‘Dalek’ and it was fantastic. This was poor, and the Dalek Antibodies were stupid! They’re clearly robotic, so why didn’t Davros make the Daleks like these, if he made them?
      6. Robot of Sherwood – Cool Knights, Ben Miller, poorly scripted, bad idea.
      7. The Caretaker – The MOST pathetic monster ever, the MOST annoying companion(s) ever, the WORST plot ever.

  • KORSAIR

    October 5th, 2014 - 10:42am

    I loved this episode the only downer for me was that it wasn’t the soup dragon that hatched out 🙂

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    • Last Goth Standing

      October 5th, 2014 - 9:55pm

      That would have dropped a Clanger….!!!

  • Dalek Supreme

    October 5th, 2014 - 9:48am

    1-Time Heist: Yeah, some really bad corridor scenes, and a bit too complicated, but solid acting and a simple idea executed pretty good.
    2-Into the Dalek: Needed some more explanation/world building, but it’s nice to see the Daleks exterminating again!
    3-The Caretaker: Danny Pink bland enough to be called Danny Beige, and the Skovox Blitzer looked kind cheap, but amusing and done pretty well.
    4-Kill the Moon-Simple enough premise, executed well with a good twist, but some really poor acting from Courtney and Clara.
    5-Listen-A mess of about 15 to 20~ episodes, with so many ideas put in for no good reason. But, credit where it’s due, that scene in the Foster Home was GLORIOUS, some of the best Dr. Who since 2005.
    6-Robot of Sherwood-A fun romp with Robin Hood, but overall trades story for humor. At least this one’s funny!
    7-Deep Breath-It drags on, and on, and on. And then KEEPS GOING. It fails to focus on the Doctor which was the point of the episode. Truly Dissapointing.

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  • Andrew

    October 5th, 2014 - 9:32am

    Excellent episode!

    Interesting to also compare this episode to Waters of Mars – it seems that whether points in time are fixed or fuzzy, the Doctor has perhaps learned from his past interferences that he should leave well enough alone. The Doctors whole demeanour here seems to be the antithesis to – and possibly a deliberate reaction against – the scars that are still be felt from the damage caused by the”time lord victorious”.

    What made the ending so powerful for me was that Clara couldn’t really know those mistakes from The Doctor’s past and is essentially – and emotionally – asking him to be that man again. To make those decisions that may not really be his to make. Clara wants a hero rather than an alien – but doesn’t understand the damage that the hero can be capable of causing. Her concept of making moral choices is not the same as this incarnation of The Doctor. She doesn’t see things in the way he sees things. She has seen the doctor as the hero and she wants that back, but this doctor simply has a different way of making moral choices. He is more conflicted, less inclined to grand gestures of reassurance, and more aligned to the complexity and compromises of the universe. Clara’s arguments are powerful – the are all about taking a stand, being counted, making a difference – but then again, she wasn’t there on Mars.

    Essentially, whatever man the Doctor chooses to be, the hero or the alien, it’s a lose lose situation in one way or another.

    Clara’s not being a cow, as one comment referred to her. She is not being simply petulant, difficult or ungrateful for the sake of it. She is simply being very human.

    For sure, things are getting interesting….

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  • Anonymous

    October 5th, 2014 - 9:07am

    Okay! Deep Breath, fantastic start to Capaldi’s Era – Into the Dalek, It was was epic and it felt like I was watching old Doctor Who again – Robot of Sherwood, really good and I enjoyed it – Listen, just brilliant and everything I hoped for – Time Heist was again brilliant and had a really clever twist at the end – The Caretaker, great and average at best – Kill the Moon, loved the story and it was absolutely fantastic!

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  • Nigel M

    October 5th, 2014 - 9:00am

    I find it hard to believe I’m watching “The Doctor” with Capaldi, he seems so removed from previous incarnations with his rudeness and shouting. That’s not Capaldi’s fault, it’s Moffat’s. I can only think this is deliberately building up to something.

    As regards “Kill The Moon”, many years ago I read a short sci-fi story where every planet in our solar system was a giant bird egg being warmed by the sun. A mother bird eventually turned up and the earth was destroyed when a chick hatched. Coincidence ?

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    • Ian

      October 5th, 2014 - 9:10am

      All the Doctors are different, this one is no different.

      Baker’s, Eccleston even Tennant have all been rude and unforgiving to co-stars in one story or another. Capaldi is brilliant and has created his own Doctor perfectly.

      The real enemies of this series (Clara aside) are some weak script writers.

      Otherwise – better than series 7 part 2.

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 9:19am

      It’s because you’re used to the recent few years. In the old days the incarnations were very removed from their previous selves. 10 and 11 were similar in many ways which has made it difficult for anyone to follow….but it was the right choice (and bravest) to completely move on from the 10thnd 11th era.

      Besides Capaldi’s Doctor is no more “rude” than the 1st, 3rd and 6th who could all be obnoxious ….also the 9th was utterly rude too but that was more down to his problems dealing with the time war.

  • Ian

    October 5th, 2014 - 8:52am

    This was a marked improvement.

    No Danny Pink, and Clara back where she should be = not the centre of the plot and in the lead role.

    The Doctor was the lead character in his own programme, so a distinct improvement all round. Lets hope, now we have raised the bar we can keep it there.

    Disappointed the spider was no connection to Metabelis 3.

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    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 11:42am

      Are you sure you got the right episode? I had no problems with it personally, but Danny Pink was there, Clara was in the lead role and the Doctor wandered off for half the episode (and even then it isn’t his own show, it’s a show about him).

  • Anonymous

    October 5th, 2014 - 7:53am

    This episode was great for me! However, I think my views as a scientist are clouding my judgment on this episode, as I can’t get over how the moon can simply disappear, then be replaced (by a new born child…) with another one, without even the slightest effect on Earth. Again, brilliant episode, but like many episodes in the Clara era, misses out on perfect marks due to a rushed ending and a silly conclusion ( robot of Sherwood, I’m looking at you – and you Hide, oh, and of course, worst of all, Rings of Akahten).
    8/10

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    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 12:25pm

      Views as a scientist? DW has always been soft sci fi…its not meant to be realistic. It’s like watching Marvel films and allowing your knowledge to prevent you from enjoying it….its all about suspending belief and enjoying the ride.

  • DOCTOR WHO ONE

    October 5th, 2014 - 7:29am

    Doctor Who – Series 8 for the first 6 episodes has been brilliant, but last nights 7th episode for me sadly was a complete and utter bore.

    During series 8, I have come across a lot of comments here on this site and on YouTube from people who are fed up with Jenna-Louise Coleman’s Clara Oswald, claiming that she’s become boring and wooden, and that the show may as well be called CLARA WHO rather then DOCTOR WHO, and I’ve largely disagreed with these comments.

    However, last night, Clara really angered me with her rude attitude towards the Doctor near the end of the episode. She was an utter hypocrite, telling him about walking among us and breathing our air and slapping him so hard he’d regenerate [she still owns him an apology for that slap in ‘Into the Dalek’].

    She’s become a right cow, so I’m now agreeing with the Clara haters cos of last nights ending. After all, she won’t accept the new Doctor, she want’s 11 back obviously. I’ve liked her so much, but now, after last night, I want her gone, even thou I still like Jenna herself, but Clara – what a cow, she should be slapped by all past female companions, one by one.

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    • RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND

      October 5th, 2014 - 11:21am

      I don’t mind Clara, but I liked her confrontation with the Doctor. These episodes are meant to be about the new Doctor, and how Clara will deal with him, and I think if I got ditched on the Moon left with that decision I would be angry too
      As for Into the Dalek, she felt the Doctor was pleased that he was right the Dalek was bad and that they were going to die

  • Al

    October 5th, 2014 - 5:28am

    My favorite thing about this season so far is the fact every single episode, without exception, is polarizing. Every episode has had people say they’ll never watch Doctor Who again (though of course they do), and every episode has been called the “Best Ever” as well. Although it’s frustrating to see how many people simply aren’t “getting it” I do accept the fact some people want simple minded SF and some people want the episodes to be carbon copies of what we’ve had for seven season previously. Me, I’m loving the fact these episodes are making people uncomfortable. If some people bail, I don’t care: Series 9 films in January regardless. And the more Capaldi, the better. Can’t wait to see what Frank Cottrell Boyce does the show with his episode.

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    • mernimarie

      October 5th, 2014 - 6:26am

      While I agree with your opinions, I would enjoy some humor now and then. It’s too dry and dark.

  • Anonymous

    October 5th, 2014 - 3:37am

    I thought the episode brilliant, but in ways I wasn’t expecting. I thought the spiders would play a bigger role, but in the end the moral dilemma was a great hook. I disagree with those who say it was un “Doctorish” for him to leave the decision to Clara, Ludvick and Courtney. The repercussions will be in interesting. It is obvious the Doctor completely misread the situation and how Clara would react to being forced into such a dramatic decision.

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  • El Bunto

    October 5th, 2014 - 2:28am

    The kids have been telling me that the new Doctor is mean, not at all like the previous Doctors. They seem a bit frightened by the intensity, and anger. (I will add judgmental attitude) I listen to my kids when they speak their minds, and I asked what we should do. So, according to their concerns, and reactions to Mr. Capaldi’s portrayal of the Dr. we are taking the show off our viewing list.

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    • Al

      October 5th, 2014 - 5:23am

      Sorry you feel that way. I think you’ll regret it, personally because I think kids should be exposed to grown up SF.

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 12:29pm

      What about the kids who watched the 1st Doctor….the original. He was rude, obnoxious and largely a – moral. He paved the way for the next 50 years of kids watching various personalities of the Doctor.

  • The Doctor Wolf

    October 5th, 2014 - 1:35am

    Well, I certaintly enjoyed it!
    Slight let down from what I was expecting, but still a great ep
    It did sort of feel like a rehash of ‘The Beast Below’ (but I preter this ep to that one so I’ll let it off)
    I don’t get why so many ‘older fans’ hate this series – it’s the most classic-like series since 2005, and damn good too!!!

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    • mernimarie

      October 5th, 2014 - 6:44am

      How old are you? As an “older fan” I’ve been watching Dr. Who since I was in high school, 15 yrs old. I am now 66 yrs old. Ha! I’ve always hated the ‘New Dr.’ And the new stories. Then it all feels right and I love the ‘new Dr.’ Then I hang on a go for a ride…. again!

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 9:31am

      Last year I watched every single DW from Unearthly Child onwards….I concluded that older fans do look back on the older episodes through Rose tinted specs…..even myself who started watching from 78. The older shows were constantly littered with awful production (even for the time), second rate acting and third rate scripts with inconsistencies by producers who didn’t care that still cause problems. The show often produced some classics which fans hang on to but in general the newer stories(from 2005) are of a more consistently high standard (especially 2011 onwards)….yep there are certain some duffers but that is true of any long running show but there are far less weak stories now than there was in the 60s-80s.

      I am one older fan who, like the show, has. Moved with the times. I love the show more than ever…just some weeksI love it more than others.

    • RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND

      October 5th, 2014 - 11:24am

      I do think some classics are better than modern stories though. I’m quite young, but I’ve seen The Hand of Fear, Planet of Evil and Genesis of the Daleks on DVD, and to me they are better than the Caretaker, Nightmare in Silver, and Deep Breath, purely because they have strong story lines

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 1:53pm

      Of course, but you are picking out the best shows from 26 years worth of material and comparing them to the first half of 1 series.

      There were many great stories from the shows initial run of 26 years but I am of the opinion that there are as many top stories from the shows second stint despite only being on air for a third of the time…there have certainly been less awful stories. Bar one or two exceptions the entire 5th Doctors run was plagued by awful scripts and mis-casting.

    • the Doctor Wolf

      October 5th, 2014 - 2:13pm

      16, nearly 17 actually, and grew up with the classic series on video and DVD – before watching the re-boot from the start
      I love both ‘classic’ and ‘new-Who’, but prefer to think of it as one show
      My point is that many people who refer to themselves as ‘older fans’ who ‘prefer the classic series’ actually seem to be acting like teenage fan-girls, who think every Doctor should be like Matt Smith (who I still thought was good)

      No need for rudeness because you disagree

    • the Doctor Wolf

      October 5th, 2014 - 2:14pm

      That last post was mainly addressed to ‘mernimarie’

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 3:47pm

      I agree the older fans that hit the forums tend to be stuck in the past…rather ironic when you think about it. Just like the late teens/20 something fans hang on to the RTD era.

      Its just the way it is. Im 42 and started watching when Tom Baker was half way through his stint and my uncles used to go on about how much better Pertwee was people used to moan on back then too…leave them to it and enjoy the ride.

  • Anonymous

    October 5th, 2014 - 1:10am

    Let think of the future. I think that the next doctor, the 13th (15th) should be black, but not only black, but a kid.
    Also, I thought of a good episode, “I DREAMED A NIGHTMARE”.

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    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 1:15am

      They should be fairly cast on grounds of their acting ability, not their race. That is the policy the BBC has taken and has followed, indeed a black actor has been offered the role (although turned it down), the second choice was white so that was the actor who was given the role.

      “Stunt casting” does nothing to help any problems.

    • Al

      October 5th, 2014 - 5:25am

      @Anonymous: ” indeed a black actor has been offered the role (although turned it down), the second choice was white so that was the actor who was given the role.”

      Please check your facts. It has been repeatedly reported that Peter Capaldi was the only actor ever considered for the Twelfth Doctor. That has been stated numerous times. What you’re hearing is an unsubstantiated rumor, though it is always possible a black actor was considered for Eleven. According to Russell Davies, however, Tennant was the only actor seriously considered for Ten.

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 11:39am

      I have checked my facts, the source was certainly substantiated.

      Certainly the impression I got was it was Matt Smith, although obviously Neil Gaiman didn’t identify the Doctor out of respect for the actor who did eventually get the role when he revealed this fact.

      And let’s face it, he’s probably one of the best sources you could get, short of the executive producers.

  • CG

    October 5th, 2014 - 1:02am

    I was really surprised with Clara telling the Doctor to go away, I hope they get back together. Apart from that I loved the episode.

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  • The Moffat Paradox

    October 5th, 2014 - 12:13am

    Was a bit of cop out I thought really.

    I was hoping for something more along the lines of “The Green Death” in which a newly evolved or discovered lifeform couldn’t coexist with humanity.It was them/it or us and the Doctor couldn’t just sit on the fence anymore than he could if it were Daleks/Cybermen.

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    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 12:30am

      Well that’s the problem with a long running TV show, ultimately it has its continuity and they couldn’t just leave the moon destroyed.

      After all we the fans know that following this incident, in 2050 humanity decided to install a base on the moon with a gravitron to ensure such a weather disaster would never happen again due to the moon’s gravity, which the Doctor would later visit in 2070 during a Cyberman invasion (see The Moonbase), and again in 2090 during an Ice Warrior invasion (see The Seeds of Death). Of course the Doctor couldn’t tell Clara about this.

  • drjakeyoung

    October 4th, 2014 - 11:36pm

    I really didn’t like the ending. he spiders were good but were used for all of 5 minutes. Plus, I’m sure Clara has had more screen time than the doctor this series.

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  • Rikki Krystal

    October 4th, 2014 - 11:20pm

    Loved every second of it.

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  • the astronaut of death

    October 4th, 2014 - 11:14pm

    I loved when Clara said

    “I will slap you so hard you will regenerate”

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  • The Other Guy

    October 4th, 2014 - 11:11pm

    For the first time this series I was left feeling completely cold from this episode. It was just dull. Courtney was annoying, the astronaut woman was just a very poor character, Clara was her usual self and the Doctor was AWOL for large chunks of it.
    The story was very flimsy and didn’t sit right with how the Doctor has been set out in the last 50 years. Leaving the decision up to the humans, since when. He’s usually trying to come up with a plan to save both but this time he just buggers off.
    Very bad episode.

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  • Anonymous

    October 4th, 2014 - 11:09pm

    I’ve got to say in my opinion this episode was by far the worst episode this series.
    The astronaut lady (I can’t remember her name) was perhaps the worst supporting character so far this series. She had practically no character. For the first half of the episode she was just there in the background. Then when it came for her to actually do something and argue for killing the creature I found it difficult to sympathise with her as I had no attachment to her as a character in an episode where that was important.
    The spiders were wasted as they were incredible underused. All they did was kill two people we didn’t care about in the first half of the episode and then they barely appeared for the rest of it.
    The Doctor leaving was completely out of character. Many times this series the Doctor has expressed dislike against humans. he would not allow three humans to decide the fate of an innocent creature. He would do his best to find a way to save both the creature and the Earth. Him leaving felt forced, just to get a way for the Earth to choose to kill the creature so Clara can save it at the last second.
    The kid was very annoying.
    Clara leaving at the end felt very forced. After all we’ve seen Clara go through with the Doctor, I don’t believe that she would just leave him like that. However I’m going to see where this story arc is going before I make any proper opinions on this.
    The story was just e rip off of The Beast Below.

    On the plus side this was one of the best looking episode I’ve seen in a long time.

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    • Anonymous

      October 4th, 2014 - 11:42pm

      have to agree, very poor episode. agree with you plus though – it was the best looking episode for a while

  • Oodkind25

    October 4th, 2014 - 10:58pm

    I don’t know where to begin with this episode!
    I’m highly disappointing because i thought we were finally going to get a decent episode from this series!
    To start, i absolutely despised the character of Courtney! she had absolutely no personality and she consistently complained about everything. The spiders on the ‘so called’ moon were only used for a maximum of five minutes and were a waste of good monsters. The concept of the moon being an egg was the most stupidest thing iv’e ever heard and the fact that this newly born creature inside the moon gave birth to another egg the exact same size was just a cop out to a sensible resolution.
    MOFFAT NEEDS TO LEARN THAT NOT ALL PEOPLE WATCHING DOCTOR WHO ARE KIDS OR I’M AFRAID I WILL NOT BE VIEWING ANY MORE EPISODES!!

    *btw i did enjoy some of the filming but the action scenes tended to stop and start and the music was abysmal*

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    • Sophie 10

      October 4th, 2014 - 11:40pm

      Glad it wasn’t just me then! Did not like this one at all…and what have they done to my doctors?????? This man is not the doctor….perhaps the story arc is that this is the master?????

    • Mad Man on a Sofa

      October 5th, 2014 - 12:13am

      I have to agree with both of you about the story, and did the newly born creature flap its wings? In the vacuum of space? Hmm. I also like your thinking Sophie on the story arc. I’ve been thinking that since Robot of Sherwood. The Doctor just doesn’t appear to be totally himself and there would appear to be a possibly logical explanation.

    • Anonymous

      October 5th, 2014 - 7:45am

      I hated the character of Courtny as well, what a chav! (Also how did she get hold of the phycic paper?) She just gave the episode weight that it didn’t need.

      The Moon being an egg is a very silly idea, but I have to admit I did think it was slightly amusing… But when it ‘hatched’ at the end and emediatly lay another egg (moon etc.) I did think it was a bit forced.

      Also, it seems the SB6 spacesuits are back… WITH NO LOGO! How lazy of the BBC, in Listen, all they had to do was take of the SB6 logo from Orson’s space suit, and in Kill the Moon, I’m sure in One scene the Doctor’s Space suit has the logo, but it’s been removed or painted over… I think Orson’s space suit should get the No. 1 spot for being Doctor Who’s laziest wardrobe malfunction…

      Also, just a nit-pic, but why does The Moon look so close to the Earth?

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