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December 5th, 2015 208 comments

What Did You Think of The Series 9 Final Hell Bent?

Now that the highly anticipated series 9 final has been aired what did you think? Was it everything you had hoped for or not what you expected.














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208 comments

  • mick181

    December 7th, 2015 - 10:29pm

    DD she hasn’t signed up to do another show before, she is playing a young Victoria in a period drama. And the final scenes had goodbye but maybe a cameo appearance written all over it.
    Jenna has now been on the show for 3 seasons, a pretty long run for a modern companion, I’m pretty sure she is gone this time.
    Anyway i have enjoyed Jenna but like ever character in Dr Who her time has come.

  • The Moffat Paradox

    December 7th, 2015 - 10:28pm

    The General of Gallifrey said in DOTD that the High Council’s plans had “already failed” whether or not that refers to the events in TEOT.Moffat might have made that more explicit in any event so there was no room for conjecture.Then they were discussing using the last of the banned ancient Galiifreyan weapons from the Omega arsenal; the Galaxy Eater or the Moment before they learned the War Doctor had already taken possession of it.

  • maryanna

    December 7th, 2015 - 9:49pm

    Really excellent writing and Peter is one of the BEST doctors ever.
    Love the series. Heaven Sent was like Shakespeare meets Salvador Dali.
    Did NOT like Hell Bent – the Master is now a woman, Rassilon is now a woman, the companions are all women, and apparently anyone can fly a TARDIS with an instruction manual.

  • Doctor Stu

    December 7th, 2015 - 8:15pm

    If the Doctor can’t remember Clara does this mean he loses all memory of the last couple of series’. The zygon episode in particular he will forget that Clara got turned into a zygon and so who did he argue with to re establish the cease fire? Who does he think jumped into his time stream? Will he remember Oswin or Victorian Clara? Who saved him from the giant sun in rings of Akaten? I feel this arrangement throws up so many different problems. The doctor can’t just lose a chunk of his memory because then that makes it impossible for him to remember why he has made certain decisions in his life. For example why did he save gallifrey if he cant remember Clara being there to persuade him. There’s something really irritating about that resolution for me

  • Phil

    December 7th, 2015 - 7:05pm

    I really love this show and I think Louise brealey would make a great companion for the doctor in the next series. I hope she might be on the list for the running.

  • Jason [Doctor Who One] from Deviant Art

    December 7th, 2015 - 5:03pm

    With Rassilon banished from Gallifrey, maybe he should be the villain once more since ‘The End of Time’.

    THE VENGEANCE OF RASSILON !! 😀

  • Andy Smith

    December 7th, 2015 - 4:53pm

    The ONLY thing I would point to being ‘wrong’ with the past few series is Moffat’s inclination to (unintentionally?) aim storylines above the average child’s head. It’s a family show for children & adults alike. It’s not for ‘knowing’ sci-fi nerds. Remember who the core audience is. Yes, the little nods and in-jokes are magnificent and I love them, but the future of the series is the kids. If they don’t follow it, the show is gone. Some of the stories, while the dialogue is worthy and thought-provoking, I’ve been thinking ‘Shut up. Run. Explosions. Monsters going ‘Rrrragggghhh!!!’. THAT’S what kids want and that’s what they should be playing in the schoolyard. They shouldn’t be trying to re-enact some angst-ridden scene where Clara’s trying to save the Doc’s soul (again) through meaningful dialogue and the sharing of feelings. In my day I had Zarbis and Daleks. You could get some good punches in playing Zarbis and Daleks.
    I suspect the next series will be Moffat’s last. He’s done wonders and I hope he’ll throw in the occasional script but maybe it’s time for someone else to step up.

  • A

    December 7th, 2015 - 4:36pm

    Spandy – regarding the guy from the woman who lived, the Doctor did say the Mire medikit might not work in the same way. Possibly because he was older when he was resurrected. The base information in cells degrades as a person gets older, which is why we age, so maybe the medikit thing had less to work with.

  • A

    December 7th, 2015 - 4:22pm

    My understanding is that time war history did not change, the Doctor simply did not remember choosing not to use the Moment due to regenerating & the after effect of the crossed timeline with his future selves. I thought the high council ( mentioned as having their own plans in DOTD) were attempting to change existence AT THE SAME TIME as the Doctors were placing Gallifrey into a parallel dimension. Rassilon failed & the Master went through the rift just as the Doctors removed Gallifrey, the Daleks ended up firing on themselves making it appear that both sides and the planet were destroyed, leading the partially amnesiac 9th Doctor to think he had used the Moment. The 11th wasn’t even sure the plan had worked until he went to Trenzalore. The end of time still happened.
    The name of the Doctor, however, is now a paradox unless the Doctor will still die for the last time on Trenzalore. Given the alternative is to become some kind of undead computer program on Gallifrey, he might prefer that.

  • Exterminator

    December 7th, 2015 - 4:15pm

    I would’ve at least put Peter Capaldi in the time lord presidential robes just for that one scene, he would’ve looked amazing. Huge action figure sales potential missed there!

  • Anonymous

    December 7th, 2015 - 3:24pm

    As far as the Sisterhood is concerned, Karn is in the same star system as Gallifrey!

  • Jason [Doctor Who One] from Deviant Art

    December 7th, 2015 - 3:08pm

    Turns out, the Hybrid was just a load of old nonsense.

    The Doctor just shot the War General just to buy him and Clara some time to escape, but knew the War General would regenerate and live anyhow.

    Regarding the Sister Hood of Karn question, I’m unsure.

    Missy perhaps escaped again from the Daleks the same way she and Clara had in ‘The Magician’s Apprentice’. Either that or she pointed up at the ceiling making the Daleks look up and then run like hell to a Dalek ship and run away as fast as hell away from Skaro that way while they was too busying asking themselves “why has she pointed at the ceiling for ?” 😀

    The Doctor was once again briefly their Lord President, but since it’s a position he never wants, it’s obviously been given to someone else.

  • The Moffat Paradox

    December 7th, 2015 - 2:27pm

    They dont need them anymore as they devleloped in the classic series the ability to teleport more exactly back and forth throughout time and space through the vortex.

    Tardises are quaint used by maveriks like the Doctor/Master.

  • Exterminator

    December 7th, 2015 - 1:25pm

    Ok so I’m confused.

    Who is the Hybrid, is it the Dr, Ashyldr/Me, Clara, Missy?
    Why did the doctor use a gun and shoot the war general?
    How did the sisters of Karn find Gallifrey and get there so easily?
    Where the hell is Missy and what was her ‘idea’ when she was captured by the Daleks?
    Is the Doctor now the Lord high president of Gallifrey?

    My head was spinning after watching that, I did love seeing the doctor inside another Tardis with that fantastic the classic Tardis console room. Shame that Clara and Ashyldr are off flying about in it. I just hope they bump into Missy and she steals it from them.

    As for the new sonic, far too many flashing lights in my opinion.

  • DD

    December 7th, 2015 - 12:52pm

    @TimM

    Completely agree. Barry Letts once said that if the Doctor gained control of his TARDIS then the show would be over or words to that effect. I think he was pretty close to being right.

  • Obsie

    December 7th, 2015 - 12:39pm

    Sight of the old console was great, however you’d think after 4.5 billion years the Time Lords would have come up with a new high tech design; not even be able to fix the chameleon circuit on this one is silly.

  • DD

    December 7th, 2015 - 12:16pm

    Agree about man regenerating into woman. Obviously to create a precedent for the Doctor to become a woman. I have nothing against strong female lead characters in shows. Just not the Doctor please. I’ve known him for over 50 yrs and I don’t want him to turn into a woman. The Master has had do do some pretty drastic things in order to regenerate in the past so I think as a one-off it’s understandable but as a normal feature of Time Lord regeneration? No thanks.

    Never liked the sonic much. It started as a ‘get out of jail free card’ to open doors for the Doctor so as not to hold up the plot action but eventually became a shortcut for lazy writing and, for recent Doctors, even morphed into a weapon, which makes the line in this episode about the Doctor using no weapons sound a bit hollow.

  • DD

    December 7th, 2015 - 11:30am

    @ Spandy

    Yes, it’s par.

  • DD

    December 7th, 2015 - 11:18am

    @Mick181

    We’ve been told Coleman was leaving before and it turned out not to be true. The other immortals (I thought there was only one other) had gone by just before the end of time (so not immortal?) Nothing to stop them turning up elsewhere on the time line.

  • Obsie

    December 7th, 2015 - 11:07am

    Although I loved the appearance of the “old” control room I assume it was meant to be another TARDIS, so why did the Time Lords stick to such an antiquated design ? They’ve certainly been stuck in the doldrums for 4.5 billion years, not like they’ve anything else to do, save take up knitting. I realise budget restraints of the show but the outlandish part of me wanted to see a stunning new design of technology from a race as old as they are. For heavens sake there was even mention of not being able to fix the chameleon circuit on it. A race that has conquered time itself and they can’t even “change a plug” so to speak.

  • Tim M

    December 7th, 2015 - 8:48am

    Too many characters in the RTD and SM era’s have come back from the brink! Captain Jack dies but survives, The Doctor’s daughter Jenny dies but survives, Rory dies countless times but survives, Clara dies but survives…Even the Brig survives as a CyberBrig!!! I’m sorry, but this is undermining the Timelord ability to survive by regeneration. It now doesn’t seem unique at all! Viewers just won’t care if an important character gets killed off. It will have NO emotional impact, as they will no doubt return in a few episodes, however unlikely that may seem. It’s actually now getting more predictable. This didn’t happen to the likes of Katarina, Sara Kingdom or Adric in the classic series. Once gone…they were gone…and some better forgotten. Doctor Who is now grounded in Sci-Fi and Fantasy, not Sci-Fi and Reality. It’s the ‘anything goes’ approach of Moffat, and if the Doctor has the easy ability to go back over his won timestreams or reboot the universe, then why do we bother having any stories at all. It completely undermines the drama and what’s at stake. Doctor Who needs to be grounded in some reality, if only to have some sanity.

  • mick181

    December 7th, 2015 - 7:57am

    I’m pretty sure that was an instruction book Me was reading.

  • mick181

    December 7th, 2015 - 7:55am

    Jenna has left Dr Who it was announced months ago. Asheldr/Me said all the other immortals where gone.

  • 2doctors2000

    December 7th, 2015 - 7:53am

    What are you on about Jenna being in the next season? Unless your being sarcastic she is playing Queen Victoria in a completely seperate drama on ITV

  • Peking Homunculus

    December 7th, 2015 - 5:19am

    Russell’s Doctor Who took itself more seriously? I’m sorry, but the Slitheen and the Talking Rhinos(Judoon) beg to differ. Don’t get me wrong, I like the Judoon.

    On top of that, Rose got brought back in series 4, which kinda kills the over emotional ending of series 2.

  • Peking Homunculus

    December 7th, 2015 - 5:05am

    I think Timothy Dalton would have damaged the episode by being in it. There is such a thing as too much stage presence.

  • Peking Homunculus

    December 7th, 2015 - 5:00am

    900 years in a sewer!

  • Anonymous

    December 7th, 2015 - 3:42am

    Capaldi’s cameo could possibly be in the Christmas Special?

  • Spandy

    December 7th, 2015 - 1:24am

    Anyone get a vibe of Quantum Leap with the diner at the end Maybe an homage to that series finals. I’m such a mush just thinking about makes me cry. So , this episode of Dr Who had a big emotional impact on me great job i guess i guess waiting 4.5 billion year make you banished someone too that was totally unexpected for the doctor anyway.

  • Spandy

    December 7th, 2015 - 1:20am

    Took me about 40 years to understand{the pinball game confused me even further } it i joined in around David tennant era so i guess it took a new incarnation for me to understand for i did try when i was like 5-12 whenever it was on pbs, but I’m all in now What a tearjerker this was. Gotta love the Dr whoverse they seem to get work least once a year in a christmas special or is that par for the course of british television shows that have mutliple seasons?

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