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What Did You Think of The Time of the Doctor?
What Did You Think of The Time of the Doctor?
Orbiting a quiet backwater planet, the massed forces of the universeโs deadliest species gather, drawn to a mysterious message that echoes out to the stars โ and amongst them, the Doctor.
Rescuing Clara from a family Christmas dinner, the Time Lord and his best friend must learn what this enigmatic signal means for his own fate and that of the universe.
The astronaut of death
December 27th, 2013 - 3:11pmHere is the final words of all the final words of the doctor
1st doctor: ah yes thank you it’s good keep warm
2nd doctor : no stop your making me giddy! No you can’t do this to me . No no no no no no!
3rd doctor: Sarah Jane? No don’t cry . While there’s life theirs…”
4th doctor: “it’s the end. But the moment has been prepared for”
5th doctor: “it feels different this time ”
6th doctor: “carrot juice’ carrot Doctor carrot juice “7th doctor: “timing malfunction! The master! He’s out there! ”
8th doctor: “physician heal thyself”
War doctor: ” I’d hope the ears be a but less conspicuous this time”
9th doctor: ” rose before I go I just want to tell you, you were fantastic absolutely fantastic and you know what so was I”
1st tenth doctor: “it’s to late I’m regenerating”
2nd tenth doctor: “I don’t want to go”
11th doctor: “I will always remember when the doctor was r
The astronaut of death
December 27th, 2013 - 5:22pmMe
Dalek the Supreme
December 27th, 2013 - 8:13pmActually, the Fifth Doctor’s last word was “Adric?” and the War Doctor’s last words were “I hope he is a bit more inconspicuous this time!”
100000BC
December 27th, 2013 - 8:41pmNo the War Doctor’s were “I hope the ears are a bit less conspicuous this time” as an in-joke to the fact that the next Doctor, Christopher Eccleston, had rather large ears.
As for the Sixth Doctor, well, nobody knows… The “Carrot Juice” line was at the end of Trial of a Time Lord, but he regenerated at the beginning of Time and the Rani. Time seems to have passed between the two stories as he must have dropped off future Mel and collected past Mel, and the events of Terror of the Vervoids would then have taken place. There are also a lot of Big Finish adventures (of which, at least some are now established canon) in between the two stories.
Dalek the Supreme
December 28th, 2013 - 9:04pmMy mistake. Also, the Sixth Doctor’s last onscreen words were, in fact, Carrot juice, carrot juice, carrot juice…”
Nathanwho
December 29th, 2013 - 1:40pmdalek the supreme
is right
it is
i hope HE is a bit less conspicuous this time.
100000BC
December 30th, 2013 - 1:40pmThe Ears:
a) makes much more sense
b) it’s obviously the ears – I don’t know how you can mistake it.
Yes, the 6th Doctors last ON SCREEN words were “Carrot juice”, but his actual last words are unknown.
USA FAN
December 27th, 2013 - 12:37pmWhy are people saying the Doctor has 12 more regenerations left? This should be his last and final one. Did I miss something?
This story was a bit confusing to me. Why couldn’t they bring back the Rani and have her steal the Doctor’s TARDIS leaving him stranded to die of old age. She could have intended to borrow it for a bit and bring it back without him knowing, only the time circuits get scrambled and she’s off by a few hundred years. Just a thought.
It was a weird story. Can’t wait to see what the new Doctor chooses to wear! The Doctor typically has chosen his clothes from his immediate surroundings which is more than likely Earth or the TARDIS Wardrobe. So, his new outfit should be a rather Earth like one like the ones we’ve seen before.
starshipalaska
December 27th, 2013 - 3:03pmYes, you did miss something. He explained to Clara that although he calls himself the Eleventh Doctor, he is actually in his Thirteenth, and final body (due to the inclusion of the War Doctor and the ‘Same-body regeneration’ at the beginning of ‘Journey’s End’). Hence, he could not regenerate anymore and was set to die of old age, as he almost did when the Daleks attacked and he had been guarding Christmas for hundreds of years. At the end though, he was given a complete set of twelve new regenerations (thirteen bodies) from the Time Lords, through the crack in time! Peter Capaldi is the first of this new cycle, meaning he has twelve bodies ahead of him. Clearer?
USA FAN
December 28th, 2013 - 12:15pmI guess so. I’ll have to re-watch the episode when it comes out on dvd. I was a bit sleepy when I watched it.
I do remember the wooden Cyberman. What were they thinking? Didn’t care for that at all.
Adam Sumnall
December 28th, 2013 - 8:11pmThe wooden cybermen were just normal cybermen trapped ina wooden gate for a long time werent they.
Dalek the Supreme
December 28th, 2013 - 9:04pmThe Wooden Cyberman was a creative way for the Cybermen to infiltrate Trenzalore.
ROCKSTAR
December 27th, 2013 - 11:53amWhat I will never understand is that in the pandorica opens and the time of the doctor it mentions slitheen , sycorax , draconions but it never shows them I mean the sliteen have nt came in Doctor who since 2010 and in the sarah jane adventures they came in since the nightmare man
TheBritishCupOfTea
December 27th, 2013 - 1:34pmMaybe the rest of the alliance didn’t like the smell
Anonymous
December 28th, 2013 - 10:58amBecause there were thousands if different species there, so they can’t show them all, and personally I’m happy they didn’t, the slitheen seem a bit more of a comical alien to me and would ruin the atmosphere of the episode.
Sandra
December 27th, 2013 - 11:42amHow do you go from “The Day of the Doctor” to THAT?? I feel bad for Matt Smith, he didn’t stand a chance with that terrible writing!
Anonymous
December 27th, 2013 - 3:19pmYeah I agree he should of have a better story like David Tennants
TomBakersBiggestFan
December 29th, 2013 - 3:40pmThe End Of Time, a better story than The Time Of The Doctor! What are you talking about! Steven Moffat is the best thing to happen to Doctor Who since the revival of the show. RTD is possibly one of the worst writers of the revived series (except Matthew Graham, the writer of Fear Her). The Time Of The Doctor was a much more classic regeneration episode, and classic who will always be the best who!
the astronaut of death
December 29th, 2013 - 10:31pmI liked RTD but I felt his writing was a bit childish and when moffat came in he made doctor who scary again
Sandra
December 30th, 2013 - 1:29amJon Pertwee into Tom Baker was my first episode. That being said, Tom Baker’s biggest fan, you’ve got to be kidding!!!
The astronaut of death
December 27th, 2013 - 11:42amI feel sorry for people who just randomly tune in to doctor and don’t get it is getting to the point where you need to watch the whole series to get one episode
RassilonRocks
December 27th, 2013 - 11:38amwhat was that? you only needed to watch the last 5 minutes i thought i would be upset about 11 (or whatever) regenerating cause i just warmed to him however i could care less by the end but OMG Peter was so good he kinda reminds me of tennant. It is sad though that the only bit of it i really enjoyed was the last 30 secs. matt should have left @ 50th. well only 8 monthish till we see if it get better. It better.
simon
December 27th, 2013 - 11:12amWell at leat Doctor Who beat Eastenders over Christmas. Dr Who came 2nd and Mrs Brown Boys came 1st. Eastenders came 4th or 5th. Its time they cut Eastenders from the TV.
DOCTOR WHO ONE
December 27th, 2013 - 3:21pmSun newspaper says Doctor Who beat them both – FANTASTIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ๐
Scott’s TARDIS
December 27th, 2013 - 3:34pmCome on guys, this is The Doctor Who Site, not the ‘Slag Every TV Series Apart From Doctor Who Site’, considering the fact that I am also a fan of Mrs Browns Boys. Rant over.
DOCTOR WHO ONE
December 27th, 2013 - 10:38amSeeing as there are now 14th Doctors and not 12, cos it seems David Tennant’s 10th Doctor was 2 versions, who we’re really 11 and 12, then the Doctors and who played them now go like this –
William Hartnell – The 1st Doctor [1963 to 1966]
Patrick Troughton – The 2nd Doctor [1966 to 1969]
Jon Pertwee – The 3rd Doctor [1970 to 1974]
Tom Baker – the 4th Doctor [ 1974 to 1981]
Peter Davison – The 5th Doctor [1982 to 1984]
Colin Baker – The 6th Doctor [ 1984 to 1986]
Sylvester McCoy – The 7th Doctor [1987 to 1989, plus 1996 in the TV Movie]
Paul McGann – The 8th Doctor [1996 TV Movie only, shown regenerating in 2013 mini-sode ‘The Night of the Doctor’]
John Hurt – The 9th Doctor [2013 in mini-sode ‘The Night of the Doctor’, shown starting to regenerate in ‘The Day of the Doctor’]
Christopher Eccleston – The 10th Doctor [2005]
David Tennant – The 11th Doctor [2005 to 2008]
David Tennant – The 12th Doctor [2008 to 2010]
Matt Smith – The 13th Doctor [2010 to 2013]
Peter Capaldi – The 14th Doctor [2013 – Present Day]
Anonymous
December 27th, 2013 - 4:57pmTechnically Doctor Who One, Peter Capaldi is the Twelfth Doctor as John Hurts Doctor only called himself the war doctor not the 9th so I see it like this…
William Hartnell: 1st Doctor (1st Body)
Patrick Troughton: 2nd Doctor (2nd Body)
Jon Pertwee: 3rd Doctor (3rd Body)
Tom Baker: 4th Doctor (4th Body)
Peter Davison: 5th Doctor (5th Body)
Colin Baker: 6th Doctor (6th Body)
Sylvester McCoy: 7th Doctor (7th Body)
Paul McGann: 8th Doctor (8th Body)
John Hurt: War Doctor (9th Body)
Christopher Eccleston: 9th Doctor (10th Body)
David Tennant V.1: 10th Doctor (11th Body)
David Tennant V.2: 10th Doctor (12th Body)
Matt Smith: 11th Doctor (13th Body)
Peter Capaldi: 12th Doctor (14th Body)
JJ
December 30th, 2013 - 9:14pmWilliam Hartnell: First Doctor, first body.
Patrick Troughton: Second Doctor, second body, first regeneration.
Jon Pertwee: Third Doctor, third body, second regeneration.
Tom Baker: Fourth Doctor, fourth body, third regeneration.
Peter Davison: Fifth Doctor, fifth body, fourth regeneration.
Colin Baker: Sixth Doctor, sixth body, fifth regeneration.
Sylvester McCoy: Seventh Doctor, seventh body, sixth regeneration.
Paul McGann: Eighth Doctor, eighth body, seventh regeneration.
John Hurt: War Doctor, ninth body, eighth regeneration.
Christopher Eccleston: Ninth Doctor, tenth body, ninth regeneration.
David Tennant: Tenth Doctor, eleventh body, tenth regeneration.
Matt Smith: Eleventh Doctor, twelfth body, twelfth regeneration.
The Human Doctor just used up the regeneration process.
doctor3000
December 27th, 2013 - 9:49amdid anyone else see the spaceship from dinosaurs on a spaceship?
12 doctors
December 27th, 2013 - 2:30pmno
Dalek sec
December 27th, 2013 - 11:35pmI did!!! ๐ Shame there weren’t any silurians. I was expecting a pandorica opens style monster invasion. However it would be too much to cram in what is already there. The Sontarans were absolutely rubbish in it, Moffat turned them into jokes. The cybermen, and the slients were really awesome. The angels were terrifying. And the Daleks were just the same old boring Daleks that Moffat has actually decided to make them a big part of the story.
skaroman
December 27th, 2013 - 9:31amAt least we are up to date with all the regenerations and reasons why.
1. Body is ‘wearing a bit thin’
2. Forced upon by the time lords
3. Radiation poisoning
4. Fell from the Pharos project telescope
5. Spectrox toxeamia poisoning
6. Unspecified injuries caused by the rani
7. Shot by a street gang
8. Crashed in spaceship, resurrected by Karn’s elixirs
9. Body is ‘wearing a bit thin’ again
10. Absorbed the time vortex energy
11. Shot by a dalek.
12. Radiation poisoning again
13. What reason would you call Matt’s regeneration?
cyberman2
December 27th, 2013 - 10:20ammatt’s doctor was dying from age so he was ‘wearing a bit thin’ as well
ROB STATE
December 27th, 2013 - 10:35amyeah – like the first doctor, he died of old age. bless him.
greyzinychimp
December 27th, 2013 - 12:49pmnot the greatest of deaths
The astronaut of death
December 27th, 2013 - 1:17pmActually it was not the getting shot that caused the 7th doctor to die it was the medicines that killed him
As human medicine is fatal to time lords
12 doctors
December 27th, 2013 - 2:34pmthe 7 doctor got shot but it did a bit of damage.
rebelchicken
December 27th, 2013 - 9:28amI am sorry to say that i was dissapointed with the quality of the writing of ‘the time of the doctor’
It was sloppy and failed to hold a clear narrative as to what was going on.
The script would have lent itself to say, a comic, where the reader can read and re-read a passage to clarify what was happening, but generally in tv form it felt hurried, with too many elements trying to be addressed in too short a period. don’t get me wrong, the story elements and ideas were good, but (and this happens all too often in Dr Who now) the script writing was poor.
Hector Sandler
December 27th, 2013 - 7:03amI find it sad of end of Matt Smith as the Doctor. I can’t believe the new Doctor old since Jon Pertwee.
Stugre
December 27th, 2013 - 2:33amI didn’t really like Ecclestone although he was “ok”. Tennant was THE doctor for me and I’m old enough to have watched them all. Matt Smith I strongly disliked but he grew on me over time, so much so that I will actually miss him. Just a pity he didn’t take wooden Clara with him.
Capaldi is one of my favourite actors and I’m looking forward to it, but I seriously hope that they can get some better writing. The 50th and the Xmas special are both poor. Yes poor, certainly poor in comparison to some of the stellar writing that has gone before. Moffat needs to stop believing his own hype and remember you are only as good as your last episode – and the last one was poor.
Savetheday
December 27th, 2013 - 10:40amWhat wooden Clara?
Gallifrey Falls No More
December 27th, 2013 - 10:43amI enjoyed the 50th more than the Xmas special.
Rob
December 27th, 2013 - 8:25pmClara is sensational!
Jammy2305
December 27th, 2013 - 12:04amTwo things: 1) If that was his last body, why did he start regenerating in “The Impossible Astronaut”? 2) If he didn’t die on Trenzalore, then why was the TARDIS and his ‘grave’ there in “The name of the Doctor”? Afterall, if he didnt die, there’d be no grave… So Clara would never have gone through time and saved him, meaning the Doctor wouldn’t have met her in the Asylum to begin with!
Dalek Sec
December 27th, 2013 - 6:03amWhat really bothers me about that was that the TARDIS interior on TNOTD was the exact same one that the doctor owed presently and not some future tardis.
Anonymous
December 27th, 2013 - 9:19amThe first one is true. The Eleventh Doctor said he was in his last body, so why did he start regenerating in the Impossible Astronaut? Moffat really needs to leave now before he leaves anymore plot holes.
TheExtremeBlueTARDIS
December 27th, 2013 - 9:21amOops, that anonymous post was me!
Jaketorwho
December 27th, 2013 - 9:44amHe started to regenerate because it wasnt him! He was a tesalectre, who can make it look like he is!
As for your second point i would assume its all to do with the time can be rewritten business!
DoctorWho4Eva
December 27th, 2013 - 10:11amThe future got changed therefore the events in the name of the doctor were rewritten
Gallifrey Falls No More
December 27th, 2013 - 10:44amHe didn’t regenerate in impossible astronaut, it was the teselecta
Gallifrey Falls No More
December 27th, 2013 - 10:45amAnd he did die on trenzalore, he was in the town Christmas on planet trenzalore.
Matt Smithy
December 27th, 2013 - 12:30pmlook guys, Moffat won’t forgot the whole TARDIS size leak on trenzalore thing, he will come back to it. He’s the sort of guy that
likes to close plot holes at least some time.
TheBritishCupOfTea
December 27th, 2013 - 1:41pmThe Doctor didn’t regenerate on Lake Silencio. That was the Teselecta simply putting on a light show, recreating the regeneration effect.
The Doctor did die on Trenzalore, but that time line was re-written, so it never really happened.
Think of it like a long road. This road represents the Time Line of Trenzalore, every so often there are other little roads that branch out of this long road – these are alternate time lines, or possibilities. If you go up one of these smaller ‘possibility roads’, you will find The Doctor died on Trenzalore and the TARDIS was his tomb. But since that was re-written, that road is closed off now, but it was closed off after the Doctor + Clara went there, so it doesn’t create a paradox. Instead, they are now travelling up another small possibility road where the Doctor didn’t die, and all is well.
Defender of Trenzalore
December 27th, 2013 - 6:13pm@TheBritishCupOfTea
That is one of the best explanations of how this ‘timey wimey’ timeline, and others like it, work out; and is also how I keep it straight in my head when watching the episodes!
๐ ๐
Defender of Trenzalore
December 27th, 2013 - 6:16pm*best explanations that I’ve heard*
Jammy2305
December 27th, 2013 - 11:52pmApologies, I’d forgot it was the Teselecta – Thank you for clearing that up for me. As for rewriting the events of ‘Name of the Doctor’, if there was no time wound in the ‘tomb’ version of the TARDIS then how did Clara go back to the Asylum and meet the Doctor? Why would he go looking for someone he hadn’t met? I’m still not convinced on that one… Any further thoughts would be appreciated ๐
TheExtremeBlueTARDIS
December 28th, 2013 - 10:40amOh. I’m so stupid! I always remembers that and now I forgot it! This is when you feel so silly that you refuse to call yourself a Whovian. ๐ณ
Adam
December 27th, 2013 - 12:01amAmazing attempt at bringing three seasons together but could have been done better, love all the past references, made you feel like a proper fan, but I hated that Matt became old, became not my doctor, not the doctor I wanted to say goodbye to, but glad he became young again to say goodbye to, and so great to see Amy pond again, would live it it peter daoaldi had had the last ten minutes to destroy everyone, would have given everyone chance to see how he was going to be given what us bound to be an incredibly long gap!!!! Regarding peter capaldi, I am so excited, never seen his work before but since his announcement I have watched the thick of it and saw the show where he was announced and gave an amazing speech about how dr who belonged to the fans. I have one thing to sat about peter capaldi…. Matt smith was an amazing doctor, but he chose to leave, so do you know what could gave happened…. Dr who could have been cancelled, but do you know what, the producers of the show that everyone in there millions give watched have decided that peter capaldi is the best one to take the show forward, and I am so excited… He’s given 30 seconds and five lines so far and already I’m excited and intrigued, not disappointed just annoyed it will take so long to see him, but do you know what I was dissapointed at every single regeneration, but everyone single one has proven me so wrong, and look what happened the last time a fan played the part (David Tennant) he became one if the best ever!!!! So let’s live the show rather than look for reasons to slate the reasons it exists and so do we!!! Cos I wish I could say I had been the doctor……
Adam
December 27th, 2013 - 12:11amThis is an edited version with spell check of what I wanted to say lol……..
Amazing attempt at bringing three seasons together but could have been done better, love all the past references, made you feel like a proper fan, but I hated that Matt became old, became not my doctor, not the doctor I wanted to say goodbye to, but glad he became young again to say goodbye to, and so great to see Amy pond again, would love it if peter capaldi had had the last ten minutes to destroy everyone, would have given everyone chance to see how he was going to be given what is bound to be an incredibly long gap!!!! Regarding peter capaldi, I am so excited, never seen his work before but since his announcement I have watched the thick of it and saw the show where he was announced and gave an amazing speech about how dr who belonged to the fans. I have one thing to say about peter capaldiโฆ. Matt smith was an amazing doctor, but he chose to leave, so do you know what could have happenedโฆ. Dr who could have been cancelled, but do you know what, the producers of the show that everyone in there millions have watched have decided that peter capaldi is the best one to take the show forward, and I am so excitedโฆ Heโs given 30 seconds and five lines so far and already Iโm excited and intrigued, not disappointed just annoyed it will take so long to see him, but do you know what I was disappointed at every single regeneration, but every single one has proven me so wrong, and look what happened the last time a fan played the part (David Tennant) he became one of the best ever!!!! So letโs love the show rather than look for reasons to hate it! Cos I wish I could say I had been the doctorโฆโฆ
The mad Dalek
December 26th, 2013 - 9:23pmWell Moffat has really gone and blown it, He’s killed Doctor Who, turn it off half way through, feel sorry for Peter.
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 9:40pmHow has he killed doctor who
omega
December 26th, 2013 - 11:38pmshouldn’t have chosen peter capaldi he’s a great actor but i dont see a spark that the doctor has i did when david regenerated into matt so i was disappointed with the xmas special
Defender of Trenzalore
December 27th, 2013 - 1:34pmThat’s ridiculous, he’s barely done anything!
At least wait for a whole ep with him in!
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 8:43pmI was very very very very very very dissopointed to find that the fear in the doctor’s room was just the crack in time
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 7:38pmDid you know capaldi was the only one who auditioned
crazy guy
December 26th, 2013 - 9:58pmno he didn’t lol
MONKEY MONK MONK
December 26th, 2013 - 10:48pmHe was the only one. Moffat chose him straight away.
Anonymous
December 27th, 2013 - 10:49amNo. Moffat knew he wanted capaldi as the doctor as he’s already been considered as the doctor in previous years, but he still did auditions and capaldi still had to audition.
The astronaut of death
December 27th, 2013 - 11:10amNo in an interview Moffat knew he wanted capaldi straight away but he still had to audition so I’m right
Anonymous
December 27th, 2013 - 1:19pmNo he’s right Moffat did say that in an inerveiw
Anonymous
December 27th, 2013 - 1:20pmSo capaldi WAS the only one who auditioned
crazy guy
December 27th, 2013 - 4:21pmright but the way you said it i thought you meant nobody else wanted the job. lol i apologize for my misunderstanding.
The TARDIS
December 26th, 2013 - 7:34pmI hope it isn’t going to be too long until we see Capaldi in a full episode.
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 7:38pmAugust
JJ
December 27th, 2013 - 12:44amDoctor Who: Series 8:
Starring Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman.
Written by rubbish writers.
Episode One – Episode Thirteen
Saturday 23rd August 2014 –
Saturday 15th November 2014
Mr Clever
December 27th, 2013 - 12:58amI’m really hoping Capaldi’s first episode will be called Dawn of the Doctor, seeing as it’s the Dawn of an all new Regeneration-cycle
ROCKSTAR
December 27th, 2013 - 11:30amI m hoping the first episode to be called Twelfth night
McGann is the Doctor
December 27th, 2013 - 4:34pmis twelfth night a familiar expression? everyone keeps saying they should call it twelfth night?
RYCBAR123
December 28th, 2013 - 6:58amIt’s a Shakespeare ๐
TomBakersBiggestFan
December 29th, 2013 - 3:52pmWhy does it have to be something relating to “twelve” or “The … of the Doctor”. Many of the other first episodes relate to the episode itself:
1st – An Unearthly Child
2nd – The Power of the Daleks
3rd – Spearhead from Space
4th – Robot
5th – Castrovalva
6th – The Twin Dilemma
7th – Time and the Rani
8th – The TV Movie
War Doctor – The Night of the Doctor
9th – Rose
10th – The Christmas Invasion
11th – The Eleventh Hour
12 – ?
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 7:26pmWhat did people think of the reference to that teleport thing the doctor stole from the maser in the five doctors
NCC-1701-D
December 26th, 2013 - 8:05pmI saw that, thought it was a nice touch, but has the Doctor really been carrying it around everywhere since his 3rd incarnation.
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 8:07pmYes
Sebatron
December 27th, 2013 - 8:13amHe does that.
McGann is the Doctor
December 27th, 2013 - 4:35pmI reckon he had took it down from the Tardis shelves just recently
NCC-1701-D
December 27th, 2013 - 11:52pmSo he carried it around all that time but never did return it to the high council.
Dalek the Supreme
December 28th, 2013 - 9:10pmYou know how it is, you put things off for a day and next thing you know, itโs a hundred years later
darylcharles
December 26th, 2013 - 6:56pmI think Moffat is and will become too dependant on Time Lords if you get my drift. Shame he brought them back in the 50th to be honest.
darylcharles
December 26th, 2013 - 6:55pmThe bit that confused me completely was what was the reason the Time Lords granted him a new set of regenerations!?
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 7:19pmThey were doing it because the doctor had saved gal lifers and the time lords wanted him to help them to
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 7:27pmStupid iPad spell check I mean gallifrey not gal ifres
ROCKSTAR
December 27th, 2013 - 11:34amWait I thought the Doctor said in the end of time that the time war changed the time lords
The astronaut of death
December 27th, 2013 - 11:40amI think that might have just been the council as the ones in the day the doctor seemed ok
12 doctors
December 27th, 2013 - 2:49pmthe council does give regenerations ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..
The Moffat Paradox
December 26th, 2013 - 5:02pmOK after a second viewing,skimming through it and probaby watching it properly once again today it’s not as all over the place as it first seemed.
More importantly IT DOES finally answer WHO BLEW THE TARDIS! The Silence after all-or more exactly a breakaway faction causing the very events they were trying to prevent.So that story arc of the Smith era and a KEY test of Stephen Moffat’s credibility has been resolved.What the Silence even are makes more sense now.
These specials are still a case though of the whole being less than the sum of the parts and probably always will be.
P.S. Make more use of the Paradigm Daleks if theirs to be ANY continuing point to them!
UnitedGamers2013
December 26th, 2013 - 5:01pmThe whole kidneys thing was two immature and too Matt smithish for capaldi. Either write capaldi as he deserves or get a new show writer
Anonymous
December 26th, 2013 - 5:52pmWell, he WAS Matt Smith just a few moments ago.
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 6:02pmYeah Matt smith was rather like tenant in the eleventh hour he just need time to ajust and find out who he is
Scott’s TARDIS
December 26th, 2013 - 7:35pmHe’s just a bit mental like Matt was with his ‘Still got legs’ thing back in 2010 and when David was with his ‘New Teeth. That’s wierd’ back in 2005. Give a Steven a chance with his new Doctor! I think Capaldis Doctor will be excellent.
Anonymous
December 27th, 2013 - 3:07amTimelords have kidneys?
crazy guy
December 26th, 2013 - 4:58pmi don’t know if anyone’s thought about this and i know this would prob be a long way away as i think capaldi era might be longer than mat’s ‘s as he is a big fan and everything but what happens when he regenerates another 13 times?
ROCKSTAR
December 27th, 2013 - 11:41amIt will be a long time before any of us needs to to think about the we ve still go 12 more doctors to go
Jj
December 26th, 2013 - 4:08pmWhy can the daleks remember the doctor again
Dalek the Supreme
December 26th, 2013 - 4:10pmThe information was extracted from the corpse of the lady who was in charge of the Papal Mainframe.
Jj
December 26th, 2013 - 4:27pmDo they say that in the episode and at what part do you fond that out
Dalek the Supreme
December 26th, 2013 - 4:41pmWhen the Daleks show up in the Papal Mainframe, the Doctor asks them how they remember who he is, and they say they drained the information from her cadaver.
JJ
December 27th, 2013 - 12:46amYou copy my name. Nah, I’m joking.
jonny scoones
December 26th, 2013 - 3:24pmAnyone else confused about claras family? A different actor was playing her dad i think, someone explain please ๐
Whoisthedoctor
December 26th, 2013 - 3:51pmI was confused too
RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND
December 26th, 2013 - 4:12pmthere was her nan, her dad, and that there woman. maybe they wanted them to beโฆ older?
jonny scoones
December 26th, 2013 - 4:31pmGood point. Thanks ๐
Mr Clever
December 27th, 2013 - 1:00amHer dad was older, I thin that was her step-mum and her gran
Anonymous
December 27th, 2013 - 10:52amYou think that was the confusing bit?!
Oh my giddy aunt!
December 26th, 2013 - 3:09pmMoffat is a fool. Sack him. The episode was dreadful.
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 3:22pmHe is not a fool he is a genious he has come up with some of the best stories he has come up with some amazing monster come on an alien where when you are not looking at it it moves and another one where you look away you forget it that is genius he is anything but a fool
JJ
December 26th, 2013 - 3:28pmHe used to be a genius. But now he is most definitely a fool. He wrecked and ruined the 50th and Matt Smith’s final bow.
Dalek the Supreme
December 26th, 2013 - 4:11pmIt all depends on opinion. Calling him a fool and saying he ruined the 50th Anniversary is offensive to anyone who enjoys his writing or enjoyed the 50th, and calling him a genius and telling people to like his episodes is rude and shoving your opinions in people’s faces.
DOCTOR WHO ONE
December 26th, 2013 - 4:28pmBAD THINGS MOFFAT HAS DONE
Introduced the Paradigm Daleks.
Splitting series 6 and 7 in half.
Having no 2 parters during series 7.
Confusing the hell out of fan’s with the storylines to series 6.
GOOD THINGS MOFFAT HAS DONE
Got rid of River Song in ‘The Name of the Doctor’ [thank Rassilon ๐ ]
Saved Gallifrey and the Time Lord’s in the final day of the Time War.
Shown the Time War, as we all thought we’d never get a chance to actually see it.
And perhaps, most important of all, cos this is the most important one of all before considering Moffat a fool – ensuring Doctor Who’s future for another 50 years by giving the Doctor a brand new life cycle of regenerations to ensure Doctor Who will last for it’s 100th Anniversary in 2063 – BE GRATEFUL FOR THAT AT LEAST !!!!!!!!.
Dalek the Supreme
December 26th, 2013 - 4:42pmI agree with most of what you say, Doctor Who one, but that’s still down to opinion. Personally, I liked the Paradigm Daleks, and I’ve seen some people complain about Gallifrey’s return, myself not among them.
the council
December 26th, 2013 - 5:14pmI know capaldi looked evel get someone younger in viewings will go down easly
The TARDIS
December 26th, 2013 - 5:34pmthe council, have you ever seen William Hartnell? He was older and looked evil, and the show was incredibly popular them. Jon Pertwee looked older and severe, but the viewing figures were very high. I may not like Moffat’s show-running, but as far as I am concerned, casting Capaldi was a brilliant move. Innocent until proven guilty and all that…
JJ
December 27th, 2013 - 12:47amDalek the supreme, I am just being honest and stating my opinion. I like the way it’s not offensive when people say they are glad River has gone. If fans don’t like River, then I have no idea what programme they are watching? or which episode?
McGann is the Doctor
December 27th, 2013 - 4:39pmyou guys are right Moffat is a genius
we Doctor Who fans are a varied bunch, there are always going to be haters for everything
the FATleks, by all means hate on them
David Tennant as the Doctor, by all means throw up at the memory of it
but Moffat? are you kidding me? the guy is a genius, as JJ said, and he was a fan since he was in primary school
100000BC
December 27th, 2013 - 5:45pmDoctor Who One:
Moffat had little part in the design of the “FATleks” or the writing of the episodes
The Split was an experiment – admittedly a failed one – but you don’t know until you try. the lack of 2 parters is a result of the split experiment
You won’t be confused if you pay attention!
That shouldn’t be titled BAD THINGS MOFFAT HAS DONE, but UNFORTUNATE EVENTS WHICH HAVE HAPPENED DURING THE MOFFAT ERA.
Dalek the Supreme
December 27th, 2013 - 8:25pmJJ, You stated he ruined the 50th Anniversary like it was fact. My whole family enjoyed that one when we first saw it, even my sister, who isn’t so keen on the New Series.
McGann is the Doctor, that’s their opinion. They hate Steven Moffat and most of the changes that came with him. Personally, I enjoy his writing and the changes he brought in Series 5, including the so-called “Fat-leks”.
The point is, we have different opinions on different eras, but we’re all fans of the same show, so we shouldn’t be telling each other which era or Doctor or Dalek to love or hate.
JJ
December 27th, 2013 - 11:00pmMcGann is the Doctor are you saying Moffat was a fan in primary school or me? And Anonymous, I stated he ruined the 50th anniversary like it was a fact to me. I know some people enjoyed it and I understand that. Normally, I’d say I just didn’t like it and have done with it, not to upset anyone else. But other people don’t care, loads hate River and I don’t see or understand why (well I do a bit), but they say that fans who like her are stupid and should be killed, now that’s just plain nasty, I don’t say people who like 50th should die, because 1. It’s their opinion and 2. Everyone dies some day, even Captain Jack Harkness or rather, the Face Of Boe. Yes, we all like Doctor Who, I agree, let’s just talk about the bits we love from the show, that’s the whole reason we’re on here. To share our views and opinions and remember the times in which made us love such a once great show or still great show in some minds.
The TARDIS
December 31st, 2013 - 12:13pmI liked The Day of the Doctor, but it didn’t function as an anniversary story. In my mind, it was a good episode, but not the anniversary episode. That honour goes to The Light at the End. The Day of the Doctor, for me, is the penultimate episode of series 7.
THE 13th Doctor
December 26th, 2013 - 3:05pmIt was a really good episode and was a great send off for matt smith who was and always will be a fantastic doctor, but the actual regeneration was a bit like blink and you will miss it, i don’t think it was perfect, but i still love it 8/10
McGann is the Doctor
December 27th, 2013 - 4:41pmI thought it was perfect ๐
seriously, the Doctor defending a town on a planet for hundreds of years like the local sheriff, didn’t see that coming ๐ฎ
bob rapoport
December 26th, 2013 - 3:01pmWith 77 million viewers, Dr. Who became a runaway sensation since Matt Smith took over the role and the story arc about Amelia, Rory, River Song, and Clara evolved. From a sheer financial perspective, its lunacy to simply kill all that off. The UK may know Capaldi but Americans don’t and we’re the biggest audience now, how can anybody risk losing that? This decision will go down as the biggest blunder in show business history. Keeping it fresh is one thing, we can all understand that. But the ratings tell us that this cast and crew tapped into a phenomena, once in a lifetime experience for all of us. I mourn its passing.
Will
December 26th, 2013 - 3:35pmDo you even know Doctor who? They can’t just keep the same Doctor because it’s popular. Doctor who has always had to keep things changed up. They’re not going to start catering just for USA audiences as well. It’s our show and a big part of our culture. Also, Doctor who was at it’s most popular when it had David Tennant and Billie Piper according to viewing figures and toy sales. So calling this the biggest blunder in show business history has to be one of the bigger blunders of the Doctor who fanbase.
Anonymous
December 26th, 2013 - 3:54pmThe doctor has been around for 50 years. Do you really think that just because you think america is the biggest audience that the stories should be catered to what you think is right! Dr who was popular before it hit america and it will still be popular when america gets bored with it. Does america have anything that equals Dr who and anything that is still being made and lasting as long? Dr who will be around for the next 50 years. More than likely when you’re dust in the grave
The Moffat Paradox
December 26th, 2013 - 6:24pmAnonymous.
Two Words re America.
STAR TREK
Around almost as long. Actually a bigger global franchise.
The astronaut of death
December 26th, 2013 - 7:36pmDoctor Who is bigger and better than star treck
The Moffat Paradox
December 26th, 2013 - 8:41pmGUFFAWW!! LOL.
Spawned 5 TV series,an animated series,books,games,oh and 12 big budget movies making BILLIONS of Dollars worldwide.As well as a large American and international fan base to boot.So as far as Doctor Who being bigger is concerned you couldn’t be further from reality.
If I didn`t also like Doctor Who (Patrick Stewart,Captain Picard,is also on record as a fan) I would neither watch it or comment here.
But arguments aside about which is better as far as which is bigger as Star Trek’s Borg would say:
“Resistance is futile”!!
Australia calling
December 26th, 2013 - 10:11pmJust my opinion but PLEASE PLEASE I hope the americans don’t become the “target market” and influence the style and storyline.
Would turn me right off a fifty year following….
DOCTORWHOSBIGGESTFAN
December 26th, 2013 - 10:37pmDoctor Who is British. Not American. The Americans may watch the show now but Doctor Who is always British and should cater to the Brits the Americans.
So there…
DOCTORWHOSBIGGESTFAN
December 26th, 2013 - 10:38pmShould cater to the Brits NOT the Americans.
IZS
December 26th, 2013 - 11:03pmI think it should cater to the fans no matter where they happen to live in Brittan, America, or in outer space!
100000BC
December 26th, 2013 - 11:11pmI think that no-one should be prioritised, Doctor Who is for everyone, but how can you say that the change is a bad idea? Doctor Who would have been cancelled long ago, from the moment the First Doctor shut Susan out of the TARDIS in The Daleks’ Invasion of Earth: Flashpoint, if change was a bad idea! What a stupid thought, that change is a bad idea.
CRK
December 27th, 2013 - 8:03amThis is a British show and needs to stay that way. (Speaking as an American.) Russell T, Eccleston and Tennant laid the groundwork. The budget got bigger when Moffet took over and they were able to market to the US, but that didn’t mean the show got better. I loved Moffet’s writing and was looking forward to him taking the helm, but it hasn’t been nearly as good as I had hoped. I did enjoy the 50th but I was quite disappointed in the Christmas special. It felt too contrived. It was too, “Oh dear–I only have one show to wrap up all of these loose ends!” Here’s hoping that in series 8 Peter Capaldi can bring the show back to what it should be.
RassilonRocks
December 27th, 2013 - 11:48amthe americans like it because it quirky and british not because its american
Dalek the Supreme
December 27th, 2013 - 8:29pmIf anything, the show should be written intelligently and the writers should pour emotion into every script. It doesn’t matter who they cater to, as long as the stories are solid, in my opinion.
Defender of Trenzalore
December 28th, 2013 - 12:24am@The Moffat Paradox
I too like Star Trek as well as Doctor Who (but greatly prefer Doctor Who)
We all have our own opinions, but Doctor Who is clearly “bigger” as it started before the beginning of, and continues to run well after the end of, all T.V series’ of Star Trek and holds far more records and icons then Star Trek…
AND the Borg (the best Star Trek villains) ripped off the Cybermen
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Defender of Trenzalore
December 28th, 2013 - 12:29amThe show should NOT specially cater to America as it is a British show, so if anything it should cater to us Brits, just like most American shows cater to America
to say otherwise is a little selfish really
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The Moffat Paradox
December 29th, 2013 - 12:53pmDefender Of Trenzalore.
Except that Star Trek has been a bigger money spinner for CBS/Paramount than Doctor Who for the publiclly funded BBC,has had bigger TV/Movie producton values, is a more globally recogised brand as any episode from any series has been statistically always shown somewhere in the world even when no new series were being made (and thats not counting the movies),has vied with Doctor Who for being longer running when no new offiicial Doctor Who was being made, still has a larger fan base if judged by the extent of the convention circuit worldwide and has had a BIG cultural impact including even on the English language itself and inspiration to innovate as with mobile technology.
It’s true (though I’ve read the original plan was they should be a race of insects which was dropped as being too challenging) the Borg can be seen as an idea pinched from the Cybermen but the latest version of them and their ability to rapidly upgrade could be seen as pinching the idea of the Borg’s ability to adapt.
So while I agree that Doctor Who should be made for a British audience it still has some way to go before matching or surpassing Star Trek for the reasons set out above.
(I personally like something like Predator even more in Sci-Fi.)
Defender of Trenzalore
December 30th, 2013 - 4:52pm@The Moffat Paradox
Touche on most of your points
However alls series of Star Trek when totalled add up to 33 seasons (not including “enterprise”, but that differs widely from the other continuity) Doctor Who has at least 34 seasons (and I’m pretty sure it’s more) and that is just the one ‘mother’ serial, whereas it could be argued that all other series of Star Trek other than the original are just spin offs of the original, which only had 5 series’
And in Doctor Whos’ 26 year absense; official, canonical audios were still produced by the BBC, essentially carrying on the series
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Defender of Trenzalore
December 30th, 2013 - 4:58pm@The Moffat paradox
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However; other than the films nothing filled the gap between the serials’ of Star Trek, and the new ones are in another continuity
As for global awareness; are we forgetting the 50th global simulcast in over 75 countries?
I’d say that’s checkmate to Doctor Who!
Good duel friend!
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