November 1st, 2014
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What Did You Think of Episode 11 Dark Water?
In the mysterious world of the Nethersphere, plans have been drawn up.
Missy is about to come face to face with the Doctor, and an impossible choice is looming.
“Death is not an end” promises the sinister organisation known only as 3W – but, as the Doctor and Clara discover, you might wish it was.
Now that the 11th episode of series 8 has been aired what did you think? Was it everything you had hoped for or not what you expected…
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Ian
November 2nd, 2014 - 4:54pmBecause it is ridiculous.
Hate the whole concept of gender swapping timelords.
Can’t anybody just stay as they are now without it being an issue.
This was a poor day for the series in general, and a poor way to mark the contributions of previous actors who worked hard to define the character.
The Moffat Paradox
November 2nd, 2014 - 4:46pmPotentially like Dalek stories with Davros so it’s more about Davros.But we’ll see.
Anonymous
November 2nd, 2014 - 4:31pmIts very sad that the cybermen won’t be the main focus
Dalek Supreme
November 2nd, 2014 - 4:21pmYep, definetly OP. The sorta thing a kid would say: ‘Oh, my guys are the bestest cuz they can adapt to anything!’.
It’s just dumb, and there’s going to be some ridiculous reason why the Doctor can defeat them, and we’ll all sigh and bang our heads against the wall.
The Moffat Paradox
November 2nd, 2014 - 4:04pmSee thread on Who Is Missy Revealed.
CJ
November 2nd, 2014 - 3:55pmWhy can’t you all just accept the Master is now female? 😀
Tim M
November 2nd, 2014 - 3:44pmI too feel that Moffat has overstepped the line. Parts of it did seem quite nasty and in quite poor taste. I couldn’t really imagine this episode on ealier in the day. But it summed up for me what I now feel about Moffat. That he has run out of ideas. So he feels the need to push the boundries further. I suppose the next series will be on even later, so that it can also include bad language and nudity!
Tim M
November 2nd, 2014 - 3:37pmWell… next series, Moffat might as well make the Rani a bloke! At least to redress the balance.
The Moffat Paradox
November 2nd, 2014 - 3:36pmOne big and surely obvious question.What does Missy/The Master gain from being in league with the Cybermen? Unless it’s back to the “I’ll side with anybody/anything if it will help me get back at the Doctor and/or conquer the universe” routine the character was notorious for in the Pertwee years.
The Master has also been notorious for viewing would be allies as expendable pawns to be betrayed or abanoned if plans go awry if they don’t have the same intent for him/her.
Ian
November 2nd, 2014 - 3:34pmCapaldi isn’t to blame, he is an awesome Dr
Ian
November 2nd, 2014 - 3:17pmGood, but just not into all this gender swapping cobblers.
What’s wrong with staying one sex. Counting down until the Dr changes and I stop watching.
Love the cyber plot, awesome.
The Moffat Paradox
November 2nd, 2014 - 3:04pmRoger Delgado was to the Master what Sean Connery was to 007.The first and best!
Anonymous
November 2nd, 2014 - 2:39pmAgree completely
the astronaut of death
November 2nd, 2014 - 2:19pmwho here thought it was the master
I did!
the astronaut of death
November 2nd, 2014 - 2:18pmif they kill of or get rid of the master at the end of next weeks episode I will be really annoyed as we will probably have to wait another 5 years until another writer decides to bring him back
Dalek Smith
November 2nd, 2014 - 1:56pmI just think that Gomez would have been suited better as the rani
Jamie
November 2nd, 2014 - 1:45pmBrilliant episode, amazing cliff-hanger! Fantastic writing by Moffat, dark, complex and genuinely disturbing at times! Don’t Cremate me!
Jamie
November 2nd, 2014 - 1:43pmWhat on earth are you talking about? How is Moffat taking limelight away from the actors? Its only the fans who ever talk about Moffat!
Jamie
November 2nd, 2014 - 1:42pmDisagree that it would have been better than the Rani. No one cares about her it would have been so anti climactic. So much better with the Master.
Alex
November 2nd, 2014 - 1:38pmLoved the bit where the doctor walked through the doors and the cyberman music played when you could see the tear drop shaped door 😀 I loved that – proper scared me
TheWhomobile
November 2nd, 2014 - 1:27pmCouldn’t agree with you more, what Moffat has done is an insult to Delgado’s character
THE ERGON
November 2nd, 2014 - 1:08pmSo like moffat to keep us guessing right up to the last minute and turning our expectations on its head. Even when Missy said mistress, I was thinking ‘Mistress rani’, but the masters had a sex change. However I couldn,t imagine Roger Delgado or Anthony Ainley wanting to snog the 3rd,4th or 5th doctor. Puts a different light on the master. I think I might have preferred missi to peel off her face to reveal John simm underneath like the master used to do back in the day. I hope we get answers to what became of the half face man etc when they were pulled up to the nethershere next episode. Can,t we have a new cyberman score instead of the old cybus industries one and the cybermen need an identifiable leader/controller again. Liked ‘The invasion ‘ homage as well.
The Surgeon
November 2nd, 2014 - 12:38pmI saw that one coming from Deep Breath so the reveal didn’t work for me.
I didn’t really like this episode, since about half of it was Pink-based. I hate Danny so much, I was actually relieved when he got run over (I can say that because he’s a fictional character) and annoyed when he came back and spent a good deal of the episode talking to Clara, even when he’s dead!
Nothing really happened in this episode though. It felt like an extended trailer for Death in Heaven, where the only big moment was, for me, obvious. Almost all of the scenes from the next time trailer from ItFotN were from part 2 of this episode. It was OK.
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Dalek Smith
November 2nd, 2014 - 12:34pmWhoops, put username and email in wrong boxes
Dalek Smith
November 2nd, 2014 - 12:33pmThat was me
Dalekparadigm2
November 2nd, 2014 - 12:33pmOh OK. I think I can see why.
Dalek Smith
November 2nd, 2014 - 12:33pmSome very good acting, liked the cybermen and the Danny twist. The master twist however, didn’t like it one bit. Sure it’s nice to see the master but Moffat just wrote missy as “the master” horribly. Why would the master kiss the doctor?! I’m not against a female master but the way this was done wasn’t impressive at all. Would have worked a lot better with Gomez as the rani because of her acting ability, but again, better writing would have been needed. Moffats ego is just too big
6/10, Still looking forward to next week, just hoping “the master” is written better.
Dalekparadigm2
November 2nd, 2014 - 12:32pmCould just be a bit of foreshadowing there. Or the re-use of sets. They do it all the time to save money.
Glynrb
November 2nd, 2014 - 12:11pmMichelle Gomez is scottish as well so it was just a bit of fun as they are both scottish.
lepter
November 2nd, 2014 - 12:10pmWhy dont we just go the whole hog and call it “DOCTOR MOFFAT”. Im sick of hearing about steven moffat. How many other shows have the showrunner hamming up the limelight like he does? Do you know the showrunner for corronation street or eastenders? I dont….he should stop trying to put himself in the limelight and let the actors be center stage. Give them stories that show of there place in the story without the need for shock tactics that only highlight HIS role in the show.