May 20th, 2013
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dean
May 19th, 2013 - 1:30amIf she went through the doctors timeline looking for the doctor and counting the “doctor’s” then she would never see hurt as the 9th doctor as although he’s the same person he’s not the doctor as it was stated, implying that she would and could only count 11 doctors dislike the idea that he could be the valyard as his previous incarnation on tv shows no remorse and being the great actor that hurt is he showed a depth of emotions in his facial expression that I haven’t seen in years on screen.
Hand ps if he is the valyard it’s always possibility that at some point the doctor is going to have to leave his own timeline and concourse in whovian fashion once the exit has been made clear the valyard will know the exit…but hope he’s the 9th
GameChicken
May 19th, 2013 - 1:18amBut Hurt would not be the 9th doctor, even if he did regenerate into him before Eccleston, he is not going by the name ‘the doctor’s so he is not the 9th doctor. Eg..lets say he goes by the name bob;
8th Doctor, regenerates into..
1st Bob, regenerates into..
9th Doctor, regenerates into..
10th Doctor, and so on…
GameChicken
May 19th, 2013 - 1:10amHe must be a previous doctor, smith knows who he is. Yeah, I know, he’s a time traveller so he can go see his future self but you know he wouldn’t
jjj
May 19th, 2013 - 1:06amAnyone think it could be the 9ish Dr a.k.a. ‘shalka doctor’.?
Yes I know it was R.E.Grant that played this Dr number 9ish,he could be just an older version.
Dr 9ish was originally an official Dr until the new tv series was announced.
Wouldn’t adding Dr 9ish back into continuity be a treat for the the 50th? Plus explains Chris ‘angry Dr’ really being angry at himself for whatever terrible thing he did as his predecessor (9ish)- needing to regenerate into Chris so as not to see the face of Dr 9ish and allows himself the luxury of blotting out how bad the Dr can be….almost as bad as The Master,Rani and the timelords of the time war.
Just a thought………
Nondieswing
May 19th, 2013 - 1:03amOr maybe it’s that doctor from the beach as he commited genocide as he wiped out davros etc plus he’s not technically the doctor
Nondieswing
May 19th, 2013 - 12:56amMaybe he split himself like when donna made another docter out of his hand. This would mean the doctor could age as when on bad wolf bay the human doctor tells rose he can age so that would explain the age thing. Secondly matt smith’s doctor seems to know what he did as if it had happened already he surely wouldn’t know. Also clara says she “saw all of you” the doctor later rejects the idea that john hurts guy is the doctor. This could imply that the doctor doesn’t have all the qualities that the doctor has but he is still there. Then there is what the doctor said in s4 “he was born in battle” this would suggest that john hurts doctor was aggressive because he was born in battle wich links it to the time war also the doctor jumps through the wound time thing aswell so does that splinter him also? And could john hurt be an echo of the doctor?
John
May 19th, 2013 - 12:49amThe ‘name of the doctor’ is John Hurt. The caption makes this clear. He is the ‘secret’ doctor, one we have not see before. He ‘broke the promise’ and acted in the name of ‘peace and sanity’. As he did what he had to do, without choice, he did not act in the name of the doctor so Claire was not aware of him, she only followed the doctor. This clearly relates to the Time War where he committed genocide on an unprecedented scale. The other ‘doctors’ could not condone this. Only now is the secret revealed.
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:49amVALEYARD!!!!!!!!!!
??????????????????
Dannyboy
May 19th, 2013 - 12:48amEveryone is hanging on the idea that the doctor can only regenerate 12 times according to an episode older than me and forgetting that in the episode “Lets kill Hitler” when river song poisons the doctor then realises that she loves him she gives him all of her regeneration energy then that would give him all of her future regenerations meaning that he will have at least another (excluding her 1st regeneration)10 regenerations.. so it could be a future doctor…. going back to an episode “last of the time lords” when the doctor is facing “the master” they have a discussion about choosing names… I believe that the new guy will almost certainly be a past “doctor” as the doctors name is a part of his past and it is hidden.. then maybe this will show him before he “chooses” his name “Doctor”
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:47amThinking about it he says its a SECRET
But he has told people he desyroyed galifrey
SO ITS NOT A SECRET
Paul
May 19th, 2013 - 12:45amCould it be the tenth doctor’s duplicate maybe? The metacrisis doctor? Or perhaps it could be the valeyard!
Personally i’m hoping for a forgotten doctor between 8 & 9 🙂
For those who don’t know the valeyard is an evil version of the doc who is supposed to appear before his final regeneration. They made a big deal about it in the classic series.
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:44amDon,
It may sound wierd but what if hurt comes back because of how harsh the doctor was saying hes not the doctor (sounds a bit childish) but he was making excuses ‘I did what was right for peace’
Don
May 19th, 2013 - 12:39amUnless its a mix of the flashback of the timewar and then Hurt tried to find another way to bring the timelords out of the timelock and in the process did something evil?
which wouldn’t be too bad i guess..
jaketorwho
May 19th, 2013 - 12:33amSo my theories that he is either, the doctor before hartnell. Who goes by his real timelord name. The real ninth doctor. Or an aged 8th. Tired from fighting in the timewar. Also is this what the doctor saw behind the door in the god complex? And if he is the ninth doctor, then the fall of the 11th can come to light. As it would make CE – 10, DT – 11 and then MS – 12. Hence the fall, the fall to 12.
the MASTER
May 19th, 2013 - 12:33amwhen he turned round i was hoping it was john simm back to play the master…… good ending though.
Don
May 19th, 2013 - 12:32amA question on Clara is that isn’t she still an impossible girl? she goes into the doctors timeline and creates echoes of herself to continously save the doctor but then isn’t the present day clara still just another echo which then goes into the the doctor’s timeline again and gets made into echoes and this process is just on a loop?
and when the echoes do go and help save him isnt it that she doesn’t really know that she is saving him but does it subconsciously yet in the flashbacks when the doctor is stealing the tardis she is on Gallifrey telling the doctor which tardis to steal. unless she was born on gallifrey and is then making one of her echoes a time lord?…
everything is so confusing.
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:31amI geuss the hurt could be the 9th doctor
IF that was the case it’s would really really really annoy me because that would mean the 50th year special would be:
A: A flash back of the time war
B:Some argument over the time war which wouldnt effect present day
(Unlikely) C: He would come back to modern day and do somefhing evil…which wou lt be gd buts its very unlikly and the writters atempting to do that
So either way if he was the 8th doctor the 50th year special would be TERRIBLE and once ahain the writters would have let me down
dronemodule
May 19th, 2013 - 12:25amI thought the cliff hanger was absolutely ruined by the stupid “Introducing John Hurt” text.
Don
May 19th, 2013 - 12:24amTechnically yes he can go and visit himself but then if he were to do that the whole point of river song knowing his future and always using the cathchphrase “spoilers” against the doctor would then seem pointless… i think the whole point of her knowing more than the doctor and using that against him shows that he doesn’t know what lies ahead?
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:18amThe doctor has said he destroyed gallifrey, not a guy which is him but he dosent call the doctor confusing everyone watching
No, 8
May 19th, 2013 - 12:17amHas it occurred to anyone that Hurt is playing the part of an older 8th Doctor, the role originally played by Paul McGann? We never saw the regeneration from McGann to Eccleston, and it was the 8th Doctor who committed “genocide” during the time war. I doubt the producers would ever show us a future incarnation of the Doctor, as this means they’d forever have this version hanging over their heads…We’ll only ever see the present and the past Doctors.
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:14amAlso as a clue hes a future doctor hes old (no offence john) which could be a sighn hes a future doctor and if not why john (no offence again) if he was the 9th they would get a young ish doctor
ITS THE LITTLE CLUES THAT EXPLAIN THE MOST-Geordiemaxter 2013
Hey steve you could use that in a episode if you like
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:10amIM not saying hurt is the 12th or 13th doctor …hes a future doctor the 36th for all I care the writters said they wouldn’t be only 12 doctors I quote ‘we wont stop because of a episode that happened 30 years ago’. Also att smiths doctor said he could regenarate 507 times
The good present doctor (smith) vs The evil future doctor (hurt) would be a gd 50 year special
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:04amDon, the doctor is a time traveler so technically he could find out what he does in the future …its like if I could travel time I could find out what I look like in the future
The Geordiemaxter
May 19th, 2013 - 12:00amAlso, people think hes the 9th doctor
BUT
If that was the case and he would have destroyed gallifrey but we know that happened so it doesnt make the present day any different (IT JUST CONFUSES US MORE) from how it is but if it was a future doctor it would affect the present day and would feature in the 50 year special
HOWEVER if he is the 9th doctor the 59 year episode would be a JOKE as it basically just tells us about the time war and would be a waste of a episode
sephy
May 18th, 2013 - 11:56pmIf Matt’s the 12th, that would mean he regenerated 11 times? Not 12. Meaning that unless they find a way to get around the whole 12 regenerations thing, there should be 1 more doctor after Matt.
drjakeyoung
May 18th, 2013 - 11:55pmno, 13 is the limit. (according to the classic series, but i think they will just ignore that rule.)
Don
May 18th, 2013 - 11:55pmhow can matt smith’s doctor (11th doctor according to your friends theory) know the 12th doctor from the future if matt smith’s doctor is from the past?
Sam Orme
May 18th, 2013 - 11:55pmMy theory is that he could b dr number 8 and 1/2 or dr number 9 but because he broke the promise, he regenerated into christopher’s dr and christopher’s dr didnt want him 2 b included in a regeneration
that’s my teory, it may ot b true
Great
May 18th, 2013 - 11:54pmWhat’s your thoughts on john hurt and the episode Boo Boo. I didn’t see any Paul making me think its John