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  • Nigel M

    June 6th, 2011 - 3:38pm

    If River is the little girl and she can regenerate, why didn’t she do so when she died at the end of Forest of the Dead ?

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    • give me a FEZ!!!

      June 6th, 2011 - 9:31pm

      As river said to the doctor that it will cause you not to regenerate

    • jedijim

      June 7th, 2011 - 12:03am

      Same reason she didn’t let Ten hook himself up to the Library core, it probably burned out her regenerative ability!

  • callum hall

    June 6th, 2011 - 2:46pm

    it was so much cool!

    we know who river is

    What Did You Think Of A Good Man Goes To War?
    it was good
    its cool! it Will Return In Lets Kill Hitler
    the show was sky high
    go to doctor who.co.uk

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  • give me a FEZ!!!

    June 6th, 2011 - 12:05pm

    Look were all getting a bit crazy with all this i hate the story and series it wasn’t the best series ever but the last episode was great theres more to life than arguing about DOCTOR WHO.

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  • lepter

    June 5th, 2011 - 9:45pm

    Overly convoluted stories with little plot except for furthering the LOOONG story arc covering TWO SEASONS. Cybermen turned into paper soldiers, one man destroyed a whole cyberfleet! Gone are the Tomb of the cybermmen vibes, all invincable and scary, instead rory stands there acting all tough and for what? Big on genocide though isnt he at the moment.The blue guy could have told them were amy was all along. A sontaran who needs to serve penance? Were is the TIME WARRIOR vibe gone? A lesbian silurian in victorian england? come on…..No, Old Dr who wipes the floor with this season. Now we have to wait THREE MONTHS to find out whats going to happen. after waiting a year already to find out who the voice was…(we still dont know)And this in a kids show.

    After masterpieces like GIRL IN THE FIREPLACE, EMPTY CHILD and BLINK….I am VERY disapointed with this season. The last season was ok. (new daleks, vincent, dream lord….cool stuff) This season though….all fizz, no substance. LOVE DOCTOR WHO…not impressed with this season so far. (river song bieng amys baby…so predictable…no suprise there. )

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    • TriciaT

      June 5th, 2011 - 11:17pm

      I couldn’t agree more I have been watching Dr Who since it began and I am a terrific fan. It was great seeing kids that used to watch it write the episodes in the Dr Who tradition. This last episode whilst a great spectacle had me saying WHAT???? is this all about, the baby thing I find distasteful I am sure most mothers would agree; and as a primary school teacher the story lines are now so complicated and intricate it leaves the kids quite puzzled no one can discuss the stories anymore. Do they consult their young (and old) viewers. I suggest they should!

    • bdayboy

      June 6th, 2011 - 6:21am

      No, entirely the opposite, this series has been too good for words!! If you are 90, OK. But once I tried to watch the 5 doctors and fell asleep!!! What does that tell you? THIS SERIES HAS BEEN THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Steve

      June 6th, 2011 - 11:02am

      I agree with lepter. I was waiting for the “game changing ending” but it limped out with a rubbish reveal for River Song. There was no point to the Cybermen in this story, it could have been any race. Rory was completely out of character, he has been a complete wet wimp since the start. Amy, I am so bored of Amy, who in all honest is in my bottom 3 companions along with Adric and Rory! A Sontaran “Nurse”? Really? WHY???? A Silurian in England in the 1800’s? If so, why did she not raise the rest of her race and wipe the “vermin” from the face of the earth. All the “enemies” were out of character. As for the headless monks, like the Silence before them, they were average! No real scare factor. And what was with the use of the TARDIS corridors on Demon’s Run? Another thing I am really getting sick and tired of is this stupid obsession of calling “Jenny” the Doctor’s daughter! She isn’t, she is a clone used from the Doctor’s DNA! And while we are on the subject of family, why have Moff and RTD before him decided that the Doctor no longer has family? What about the Doctor’s Granddaughter? If people really want to see scary Doctor WHo then watch Pyramids of Mars or Terror of the Zygons! Come on Moff, you can do so much better then this less than average story

    • The Master

      June 6th, 2011 - 3:42pm

      No-Body Seems To Get That The Doctor Made The Sontaran A Nurse Because He Had To Pay Of A Debt.

    • Telwhofan

      June 6th, 2011 - 6:22pm

      Steven Moffat should have left the production to Russell and his team. He wrote some great stories but he has been responsible for making the show a lack-lustre,damp squib,vastly inferior, unrecognisable shadow of what it was. Bring back RTD, sack Smith and let’s have some emotion back. I have been a big fan all my life but hardly bother watching now.Far too many changes for changes sake-even the colours look grey and boring.Rubbish!!

    • McGann is The Doctor.

      June 6th, 2011 - 6:40pm

      Hey steve, you’re 17, your too unhappy for anything to seem good. In your view, everything stinks. So that leaves your opinions biased and not worth listenig to.

      Everything has to be wrong, from the view of cybical fan-boys like yourself. Why can’t you accept anything? Because you have no capacity for imaginative viewing, or understanding this Series. And by the way, Pyramids of Mars I was NOT all that keen on.

      AGMGTW was hardly a less than average story, that’s just what you think. The episode was a thrill to watch, and alot of people thought so aswell, general viewers and fans alike.

    • lepter

      June 6th, 2011 - 8:36pm

      no, im not 90. Some new who is up there with the best, like I said, girl in the fireplace…awesome. Mat smith is finding his feet and doing a good job. Its the story that I have a problem with. Too many obscure events with no explanations. What was the debt the sontaran and the silurian had to pay? Why can river song come and go from a maximum security prison when she pleases? Whats the wierd tardis all about? Why blow up a WHOLE cyberman fleet, just to proove a point (what point? what did that achieve?) How lucky that the doctor knew that the silence was going to say what he did, after he placed the transmmitter in the appollo 11 capsule to transmit what he was going to say to seal there fate, (yet again, genecide!)
      How did the doctor know to go to that castle looking for the flesh? Wasnt AMY ganger alive like the other gangers he fought so hard to protect? Yet he killed her real quick didnt he! Thought the pirate captains son couldnt leave the spaceship in the pirate story or he would die…yet there he was. One silurian becomes an army that died real quick. The jadoon, what were they there for? Thought they were the police of space, following protocol to the letter…mmmmm.
      Love dr who, (all 11 doctors) Not impressed with this half season so far.

    • Jacko

      June 7th, 2011 - 10:27am

      Hi TriciaT I agree with you, I have been a fan since Doctor Who started in the 60’s. That was when the Doctor landed – didn’t know where, met the monsters, sorted them out and set off again to conquer another planet. It was more exciting he didn’t know, we didn’t know where the tardis would be landing and it was much more exciting. This season is dissapointing, too complicated and getting too sissy with all this kissing and cuddling.

  • \James:

    June 5th, 2011 - 9:07pm

    I thought River Song might have been the doctors mother.

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    • riversong:)

      June 5th, 2011 - 9:43pm

      they wouldn’t have kissed lol :’)

    • lepter

      June 5th, 2011 - 9:47pm

      me too….would have been a better twist than the river/amy baby thing though.

    • The Master

      June 5th, 2011 - 9:56pm

      Exactly what I thought

    • bdayboy

      June 6th, 2011 - 6:22am

      Ah, Melody = Song
      River = Pond!!!!!!

    • megan

      June 10th, 2011 - 6:28pm

      but i thought that river was the doctors wife !

    • Adam

      June 12th, 2011 - 2:34pm

      I thought river was the doctors wife to

    • Intergalactic

      July 22nd, 2011 - 11:17am

      If River had a middle name, I’d go mad! πŸ˜†

  • Mr. Dreadful

    June 5th, 2011 - 7:18pm

    I thought the first 35 minutes were mostly a bit meh… not awful, but it felt more like a Russell T Davies fever dream than what we’ve come to expect from Steven Moffatt. It picked up after that and the little twists then the big reveal were awesome… but overall it was let down by that first 35 minutes, the only way it could have been more RTDesque would have been to set it in a council estate!

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    • Andrew Hall

      June 5th, 2011 - 10:14pm

      Slagging off RTD again! Surprise surprise! Doctor Who fans are never happy. This reminds me of the awful fans who slated JNT when he was producer. Why cant you just say I dint like the first 35mins of the episode – why bring RTD in to it?

    • Mr. Dreadful

      June 8th, 2011 - 10:26pm

      Because it was very RTDesque… sorry, I didn’t realise I couldn’t draw on what I feel to be valid comparisons when expressing opinions. I shall henceforth correct my behaviour.

      I don’t have much love for JNT either, by the way. πŸ˜›

  • roo slitheen

    June 5th, 2011 - 6:43pm

    best episode EVER!!!

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    • bow ties are cool

      June 5th, 2011 - 6:44pm

      you got that right!!!

    • megan

      June 7th, 2011 - 6:00pm

      hell yeah !!!!! xxxx

  • NigelP

    June 5th, 2011 - 5:31pm

    And let’s not forget, ‘Jenny’ (his generated daughter) was in the episode last night as well….didn’t anyone else spot her?

    And who says that River told the Doctor she was Melody Pond? No proof of that at all. The Doctor has a different story as to who River is to him.

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    • i wear a fez now

      June 5th, 2011 - 5:57pm

      no, where was she???

    • H.K

      June 5th, 2011 - 6:24pm

      where was jenny???!!!

    • booboo

      June 5th, 2011 - 6:30pm

      It was nt Jenny as in the Doctor Daughter it was the Silurian’s maid who was also called jenny

    • NigelP

      June 5th, 2011 - 7:40pm

      Jenny was the friendly soldier, who “knew the Doctor when she was young”. Different actress, regenerated?

    • ROB

      June 5th, 2011 - 7:54pm

      jUST WANTED TO ADD A COMMENT TO THE DEBATE ABOUT HOW COMPLICATED IT HAS BECOME, I look forward to it each week now, the more complicated the more of a challenge it is. I think we dumb down tv (especially for kids) who in my experience can easily handle this, especially with a good chewy conversation with an adult about time travel paradox and all that. BBC, do not stop this trend in DR WHO, keep it chewy and interesting, you might not please everyone but those with a hunger for using their heads will keep coming back for more.

    • H.K

      June 6th, 2011 - 3:48pm

      i like complicated ones! i think it’s fun trying to make sense of it!!

  • the Tardis

    June 5th, 2011 - 5:29pm

    I suspected that River was Amy’s daughter right from Day of the Moon. Also, why would River go to prison for killing someone when she was a little girl, also, why would she kill the doctor or rory????

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  • McGann is The Doctor.

    June 5th, 2011 - 4:22pm

    I was sceptical about what it would BE like, after the previews etc. , but the show was fabulous to watch. It was TOTALLY different from last series finale, which is pleasing for me. πŸ˜‰ because I thought it might end up being a bit samey.

    Great TV production, doesn’t come any more spectacular than 2011s Dr Who series.

    Steven Moffat has undertaken the massivest challenge ever with this series. With Series 6 I thInk he’s made a genius plan, having a mid-series cliffhanger.

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  • McGann is The Doctor.

    June 5th, 2011 - 4:21pm

    I was totally not dissapointed by last night’s Dr Who. I was sceptical about it because of hte previews, but the show was fabulous to watch. It was TOTALLY different from last series finale, which is pleasing for me. πŸ˜‰

    Great TV production, doesn’t come any more spectacular than 2011s Dr Who series.

    Steven Moffat has undertaken the massivest challenge ever with this series. With Series 6 I thInk he’s made a genius plan, having a mid-series cliffhanger.

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  • Adam

    June 5th, 2011 - 4:20pm

    I don’t think that the cot was the doctors. He had a granddaughter (Susan) way back when William Hartnell was the first doctor. So I think that the cot was for his son or daughter. Main reason behind this thinking is that the doctor didn’t answer when asked if he’d ever had children.Later on he did say that the cot was his and he slept there but as we keep hearing “The doctor lies” Can’t help wondering if things will come full circle and River will turn out to be Susans mother. Also wondering if the goodman is Rory and not the doctor after all.

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    • Adam

      June 5th, 2011 - 4:34pm

      Lol edit that I meant Can’t help wondering if things will come full circle and River will turn out to be Susans grandmother. Oops.

  • Alistair Catterall

    June 5th, 2011 - 3:55pm

    The title of the next episode, “Let’s kill Hitler”, shouldn’t be taken literally in my view. When River turned up at the end she was talking to the Dr, trying to show him how he is viewed by others, and maybe trying to make him realise that by being who he is he is actually changing too much.

    This theme was explored in the “Waters of Mars”, where the Dr said it was a fixed point in time, that couldn’t be changed. Yet he did it in the end (although Adelaide Brooke kills herself back on Earth once she realises what the Dr has done, accepting she should have died on Mars). He then rewrote time to bring back Rory at the end of Series 5.

    River, on the other hand, has been much more cagey. We haven’t heard her use it in episode 7, but one of her catchphrases was “spoilers” – she knows what is to happen, and seems determined it must happen, despite all the complications of meeting the Dr in the wrong order.

    So back to “Lets kill Hitler” – perhaps it’s an idea so fantastic that it can’t happen. Go back in History and kill Hitler, and just how much History would change? This is the second part of this story (episode 7 and 8 are a two-parter), we know that Melody is ultimately safe because of the adult River, but History (or destiny depending on where you are on the timeline) must happen, with all the consequences. That will ultimately include the death of “the good man” by River.

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  • DoctorWho Fan

    June 5th, 2011 - 3:42pm

    That was the best episode of doctor who ever. So River Song is Amy and Rory’s daghter. What a fabulaous ending. I can’t beleive it Sontarans, Silurians were helping the doctor. I hope the cybermen come back in the next episode of Doctor Who in Let’s All Kill Hitlar

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    • bdayboy

      June 6th, 2011 - 6:26am

      I think the girl in the spacesuit is Melody pond (River) grows up, shoots the doctor at the lake!!!

    • Nigel M

      June 6th, 2011 - 9:22am

      I think you’re right, it’s a future Doctor that is killed at the lake, so he knows who River really is but doesn’t reveal it. He knows she’s going to kill him when she’s a little girl and he can’t do anything about it without interfering with her history.

  • superdalek

    June 5th, 2011 - 2:05pm

    πŸ˜€ I WAS RIGHT, I WAS RIGHT, I WAS RIGHT! πŸ˜€ In ‘What did you think of Curse of the Black Spot’ I wrote a comment about my ideas and now I find out I was right! πŸ˜€ I should get a prize. πŸ˜€

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  • H.K

    June 5th, 2011 - 1:48pm

    SO, RIVER IS A TIME LORD!! BUT I STRONGLY THINK THAT RIVER WAS THE GIRL IN THE SPACESUIT!! 1: SHE REGENERATED. 2, SHE HAD A PIC OF AMY ON HER MANTEL. 3. RIVER SAID THAT THE DOCTOR WILL CARE FOR MELODY IN ANY WAY, AND THE SPACESUIT HAD LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEMS. DOES ANYONE ELSE THINK SO???

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    • H.K

      June 5th, 2011 - 1:51pm

      AND, SHE KILLS THE BEST MAN SHE EVER KNEW, THAT COULD BE RORY OR THE DOCTOR, BUT THE DOCTOR GETS KILLED BY THE GIRL IN THE SPACESUIT, AND RIVER CAN’T BE IN 2 PLACES AT ONCE, UNLESS THAT WAS HER FROM HER PAST. BUT I THINK THAT IT HAS MORE CHANCE THAT SHE KILLS THE DOCTOR, BECAUSE THE EYE PATCH LADY SAID SHE WOULD BE A WEAPON AGAINST THE DOCTOR!! DOES ANYONE AGREE??

    • WOWHO

      June 5th, 2011 - 3:50pm

      BUT you don’t know who exactly was in the space suit in 2011 when the doctor was killed so it could be someone we haven’t met yet

    • Mels

      June 5th, 2011 - 4:15pm

      It is implied that River is the little girl in the Spacesuit… but I wouldn’t be suprised if it’s a complicated red herring either, since River didn’t seem to recognise the spacesuit that the little girl had ripped out of…

      I’m not convinced that River is the Spaceman that kills the Doctor. The invited River watching the Doctor die with Rory and Amy had just come from jail, and if she was jailed for shooting the Doctor (wearing the Spacesuit) then she would have expected her past self to come out of the lake in the Spacesuit. (She seemed genuinely suprised!) Also, she fired a gun at the spaceman after it killed the Doctor too… it wouldn’t make sense to shoot at her past self afterwards… although I think she does know something about the Spaceman (she says ‘of course’ or something like that).

      I wouldn’t be suprised if River kills Rory somehow… his photo wasn’t in the little girl’s room after all, only Amy’s… that and Rory hasn’t died for a while :p

      And River’s only part Tile Lord… or rather a human that has taken on Time Lord characteristics (and possibly been modified further by the Silence, etc)

    • bdayboy

      June 6th, 2011 - 6:29am

      No Mels, Rory is river’s dad!!! She wont kill him!!!

    • Mels

      June 6th, 2011 - 8:37am

      No, River wouldn’t *purposely* kill Rory… accidently, maybe. But… also consider there may be a River ganger floating about too… if they could make an avatar of her as a baby, they might be able to animate a ganger. Why have only one ‘weapon’ when you can also have a spare, especially if the Doctor steals the original! Plus they might have genetically meddled with a ganger, and sent it completely mad.
      If the ganger died during the event… original River may have been blamed and jailed for the crime… River seems the type to blame herself for something like that, and then take the punishment.

      Or the man she (original River or otherwise)’kills’ could just as likely be someone new that we meet in the second half of the series.

      It’s all timey wimey topsy turvy lol. πŸ™‚

      (Personally I don’t want Rory to die at all lol, I actually quite like him!)

    • Sibear

      June 6th, 2011 - 10:00am

      What about the Flesh doctor. They mentioned a couple of times there can only be 1 doctor. Could it have been the Flesh doctor being killed perhaps.

    • megan

      June 7th, 2011 - 7:54pm

      so now i’m confused now. i thought that river song(melody pond) was the doctors wife thats why she kissed him. then in the one with the weeping angels amy said “your his wife arn’t you” and river said “oh your good” witch to me means yes thats right. i dont know what i think anymore i’m kinda really confused. can someone explain it to me PLEASE. thank you.

  • jake

    June 5th, 2011 - 1:31pm

    did the headless monks kill all the silurians?
    and what happened to the series 5 alliances as both Judoon and silurians plus sontarans where part of the alliance but helped the doctor in ep.7.

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    • H.K

      June 5th, 2011 - 3:53pm

      i think the reason they all came back was because they had a debt to pay the doctor.

  • harold saxon

    June 5th, 2011 - 12:50pm

    aBSOLUTELY loved it,fANTASTIC story and great music,it was great pace,have enjoyed this series so much,even more than series 5 which i loved very much,the revelation about river song is wonderful,there was a few moving moments in this story. Roll on september and the next instalment.

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    • bdayboy

      June 6th, 2011 - 6:32am

      I just jumped on the sofa as I saw Captain Avery and his son, Sontarons, Cybermen, Silurians, Judoon and I would have never expected the doctor to be the last monk!!!

      And since when was Rory brave, strong, and a nurse???

  • Dalekman

    June 5th, 2011 - 11:37am

    So the Tardis has been translating Melody Pond to be be River Song every time they have meet.

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    • wowza

      June 5th, 2011 - 9:22pm

      No, because it only translated to River Song beacuse the people of the forest don’t have a word for pond.

  • Homer J Simpson

    June 5th, 2011 - 11:29am

    Loved it.

    I like the real clue at the start of the episode, Rivers Birthday!

    So River/Melody has been taken and is going to be turned into a weapon to kill the doctor, put into the space suit and kill him at the start of episode 1, then escape the suit but get hurt in doing so and then re-generate. (little girl)

    The doctor possibly does not recognise her then falls in love with her etc etc

    Pitty about waiting until the Autumn though.

    For those moaning about the long story lines, they obviously did not watch classic who which had entire series on one storyline.

    Matt Smith is not compared to the other doctors, as they are all individual personalities. He brings his own style which is also great.

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    • lepter

      June 5th, 2011 - 9:59pm

      not true. The keys to time story arc had 5 seperate stories linked by a simple quest to find the key segments. You can watch any one story, eg power of kroll on its own and still enjoy it. Trail of a time lord again had seperate stories bridged by a trail. You could watch terror of the vervoids on its own and still enjoy it. This LLLOOOOOONNNGGGG two year story arc is overly complicated and watering down the power of dr who. Wimpy cybermen? Whole fleet killed by one man. At one time, rory would have been toast, (or converted…cyberroary! Dont mind Mat smith. Lesbian silurians? Pennant sontarans? Two year story arcs….its a bit much. And yes, I love dr who.

  • Zwoosh

    June 5th, 2011 - 11:06am

    So the flesh had to have come from some other place before. Where and when was the Amy ganger made?

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    • megan

      June 7th, 2011 - 8:30pm

      thats what i was thinking, i asked my mum and she said “you know when amy got taken by the silence in the imposiable astronourt she was never returned. they made a ganger/flesh one of amy and put her in the chair and gave the real amy to the lady with the eye patch” she only know that beacuse when she was returned that was the first time she saw the lady with the eye patch and thats how i knew. xxx

    • megan

      June 10th, 2011 - 6:46pm

      but she was took at the toilets when she first talked to the scilence and they killed the old lady. !!!

  • geree

    June 5th, 2011 - 10:56am

    that was cool, and epic.
    Really.
    Anyway, im bored a bit about “river shot the doctor” theory.
    Where’s the evidence? I mean, what proves that was young river in the suit, and the doctor was shot, was the real one? Im personally think that he was a flesh one, and the girl could be anybody.

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  • The Master

    June 5th, 2011 - 10:53am

    BooBoo plase update the silnce will fall section and river song’s timeline

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    • booboo

      June 5th, 2011 - 11:06am

      we will but we are on holiday all week so it will have to wait until we get back

  • The Master

    June 5th, 2011 - 10:41am

    Spoiler Speculation
    Melody Is Taken Down To Earth, And Is Being Raised By The Silence Who Were Created By Demons Run To Protect The Child, They All Live In The Children’s Home In Ep.2 Hence All Of The Pictures Of The Baby With Amy, And Then The Little Girl Regenerates, And The Silence Are Meant To Protect Melody At All Costs, So They Decide To Bring Down The Doctor By Exploding The Universe Which Is Averted. Back To The Little Girl, She Is Running Around When Suddenly She Finds Out That The Doctor And His Friends Are Having A Picnic In Ohio, So She Gets A Spacesuit, Goes Over There And Shoots Him, Therefore That Makes The Doctor The Man Whom River Kills. And She Is About 30 Now, So She Is Found And Taken To The Forest And Her Name Is Changed To River Song, Because The Only Water In The Forest Is The River, But Then The Storm Cage People Catch Up With Her And She Taken To Prison, This Is Probably Wrong.

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    • lepter

      June 5th, 2011 - 10:02pm

      bring down the dr by destroying the universe…bit drastic isnt it. Why not just shoot him. (oh, they did! ;-))

    • bdayboy

      June 6th, 2011 - 6:35am

      But I think Melody regenerated into the looks of River Song!! And changed her name permanently (River Song) to avoid confusion!

  • Andy Clockwise

    June 5th, 2011 - 10:19am

    How does River Song travel through time??? She hasn’t got a TARDIS nor a Vortex Manipulator that I know of, so how does she manage it???

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    • Thethre

      June 5th, 2011 - 11:10am

      if you looked at her wrist you would see that she had one on

  • Andy Clockwise

    June 5th, 2011 - 10:04am

    I JUST DON’T GET IT πŸ™ Why has Doctor Who become so complicated to follow and understand. Yes, the effects are brilliant BUT surely it’s the story that matters and I don’t understand what’s going on πŸ™

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    • megan

      June 7th, 2011 - 8:41pm

      i thought that the david tennant was a lot better doctor that mat smith will ever be. xxx

    • nme61

      June 16th, 2011 - 8:07pm

      i thought patrick troughton was a better doctor than david tennant i think paul mcgann should have had a longer reign comparing doctors is like comparing apples

  • castrovalian

    June 5th, 2011 - 9:54am

    y wud riversongs name be written on the doctors cot

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    • Mels

      June 5th, 2011 - 10:24am

      I don’t think it was, it was just ‘Gallifreyan writing’. It’s was more likely the Doctor’s real name, as it was his cot after all, though why he had the cot with him in the TARDIS to begin with is a mystery. He would have had to have gone back to Gallifrey at some point in his life to load it into the TARDIS and take it with him… interesting. I wonder if we’ll find out why, since we don’t really know much about the Doctor’s parents or his childhood…

      … or the wtiting on the cot could just be the logo of some random Gallifreyan cot manufacturer… (j/k!) :p

    • Mels

      June 5th, 2011 - 10:46am

      Adding to that, River is part Time Lord so can read Gallifreyan, and would be able to read the Doctor’s true name in Gallifreyan (thus the Doctor realises River is Melody, already establishing the baby is part Time Lord).

      I have to admit though, watching the end of the episode again, the dialogue is confusing and does make it sound like River/Melody’s name is etched into the cot… but that doesn’t make any sense, as the Doctor would have seen the writing when fetching the cot from the TARDIS.

    • whofan4ever

      June 5th, 2011 - 1:38pm

      wrong wrong wrong

      the doctor looked at the knitted thing from the girl who lived in the gamma forests which lay in the cot and the gallifreyan writing wouldve been to do with him more than likely

      also who thinks the sontaran was funny talking to the injured boy and who thought river was the docs mum when they were talking before amy found out who river is

    • Mels

      June 5th, 2011 - 4:47pm

      I know what you’re talking about whofan4ever, but there’s a shot where River says “can’t you read” to the Doctor and then it specifically pans to the Gallifreyan script on the side of the cot… that’s what we were yacking about because castrovalian thought it might be River’s name, not the Doctor’s.
      Like you said, the Doctor may have actually been looking at the embroidery during this pan (which would make the most sense), but we don’t actually see him look at it, which is odd. (Amy makes the same mistake at first, looking at the Gallifreyan writing before realising River is pointing to the embroidary…)

      It’s also possible that the Doctor didn’t notice the embroidery at all (he didn’t pick it up or turn it over) and makes the connection because River can read the Gallifreyan script/Doctor’s name. (And therefore River learned of the Doctor’s real name from the crib when she was a baby, and was then able to tell it to the 10th Doctor in ‘Silence in the Library’. Yes, it seems silly that a baby would remember, but the adult River said she remembered the crib…

      Either way, this scene was a bit confusing… the dialogue and camerawork seemed to be going off in different directions at times…

  • LN

    June 5th, 2011 - 9:53am

    at the end of the trailer with the Doctors skeletal hand the slogan was “TIME RUNS OUT” when I created my series that was my slogan which is really creepy because the flood is similar to a monster I created and so are the Headless Monks!

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  • Crack in time

    June 5th, 2011 - 8:56am

    I was down my anties last night and she’s got sky 3D so I got to watch dr who in 3d I was really happy

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  • Crack in time

    June 5th, 2011 - 8:32am

    One of my favourite episodes of Matt smith I loved that river was melody pond and the headless monks creepy and I liked the return of Danny boy from victory Of the daleks but I didn’t like that Stephen Moffat has broke back the old monsters it was just like the alliance in series 5 but apart from that the entire series I think has been brilliant

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