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What Did You Think of The Crimson Horror?

What Did You Think of The Crimson Horror?

There’s something very odd about Mrs Gillyflower’s Sweetville mill, with its perfectly clean streets and beautiful people.

There’s something even stranger about the bodies washing up in the river, all bright red and waxy. When the Doctor and Clara go missing, it’s up to Vastra, Jenny and Strax to rescue them before they too fall victim to the Crimson Horror!”

Now that the 6th episode of series 7b has aired in the UK what did you think?, was it the best episode ever or just average.



  • Marcus Steane

    May 10th, 2013 - 3:58pm

    Steven Moffat has ruined Doctor Who ! With rubbish storie lines , bad writing! Its now just fiction with in fiction ! and just rubbish! And he has succeeded in undoing all the hard work russell t davies did ! The success of any science fiction is that there has to be an element of believability in the story ! I draw the line at spitfires in space and giant turtle with the city of london on its back ! Just bad cheap writing ! Does no credit to the actors and actresses.

    • the ergon

      May 13th, 2013 - 1:42pm

      Steven moffat is a great writer for doctor who, just not a good producer for doctor who . Maybe its time for a change at the top.

  • Johnny Voltaire

    May 9th, 2013 - 12:44pm

    I cannot ABIDE this incarnation of the Dr.

    It’s not that Smith is not a good actor – my problems is with his portrayal of the Dr.
    This Dr is ridiculously flippant and desperately trying to be “wacky” – usually at the most inappropriate times.
    So when he “gets serious” it is hugely unconvincing.
    His character just does not work.

    When his companions are in danger, you get no real sense that he even cares – he spends so much time being idiotic and mugging to the camera.
    He is supposed to have an awesome moral depth and intelligence, yet he behaves in such a careless and clumsy manner.
    This worked with the “old Dr” (i.e. pre Russell Davies), but since then the epic, messianic aspects of the Dr have been built up, which the stories and this version simply cannot support.

    And I do not think that Moffat sets up believable or appealing relationships (which is strange, given his other writing credits) :- Amy and Dr never clicked ; or Amy and Rory ; and now Clara (who I like as a character) is “instantly” the Dr’s best friend. Too soon, no character development.
    And for god’s sake, stop falling back on River Song !

    BUT mainly it is the tone of the stories that turn me off. They are sentimental, mostly mystical, hardly any believable science these days.
    There is a cloying, new-age feeling to them. A smugness.
    (Let’s defeat a living planet with a leaf …)
    YUK !

    the stories are rarely a straight-forward sci-fi yarn any more – they more often seem to be trying to make a “point” about the Dr.
    But the problem is, his character simply fails to have the creditability needed for this.

    Even my 12 year-old son is getting sick of it.
    What a shame.

  • Hmt

    May 8th, 2013 - 11:02pm

    Doctor who has never been the same after the russell t davies era ended. A great program that was fantastically reintroduced in a modern world for every type of viewer and has now became childish, unexplained with full of holes in each plot. Sad times.

    Just my opinion, miss the Russell t Davis era…..

    • Spiky mikey

      May 8th, 2013 - 11:12pm

      At first I thought I would give smith a try with Moffat, but I do have to agree with hmt, The stories are kinda confusing and I think David or chris were far better. Everything seems rushed now with no main story? Lol

    • Anonymous

      May 8th, 2013 - 11:58pm

      i think you are mistaken the best episodes from the rtd era were all in my opinion by moffat and personally out of the revamped series i would rank my favourite actors in order smith eccleston tennant

    • MaxP

      May 9th, 2013 - 12:05am

      There has been something definitely not quite right with the writing in this season and the last. Everything else – cast, production values – are all absolutely top notch though! Just something not working, maybe missing.

    • Dalek The Supreme

      May 9th, 2013 - 3:39am

      I agree with 99% with Anonymous. The 1% is that they’re allowed to have their own opinion.

    • TeddyChester

      May 14th, 2013 - 1:54pm

      … I wonder if after 7 series that the magic and excitement has just worn off for some Who Fans? Makes you think if this was Series 1 reviewers would be saying it’s great rather than, average or poor? For me I still await with bated breath the new episode on a sat nite, hoping it’s a classic. Some have and some hasn’t… will I be watching this sat? Yes! May Dr Who continue.

  • ClassicSeriesSuperior

    May 8th, 2013 - 6:29pm

    I think if they are going to change the writer and doctor for the upcoming seasons of doctor who I really think Mark Gatiss should be the main writer, his stories are brilliant, (This one was only `ok` though) Stevan Moffat and Russel T. Davis can learn a lot from this writer.


    May 8th, 2013 - 10:38am

    OKAY PEOPLE srsly look at the facts.
    The snowmen was the best, hide and Journey to the centre of the tardis werent far off. MATT SMITH DOES NOOOT need a replacement. He is an amazing handsome actor and the best doctor ever.The ep was okay, but Snowmen definately beat it. Clara and the doctor have an slightly more intimate relasionship, and i think Clara challenges the doctor and he doesnt realise it but he is attracted to her. I know steven Moffat wont want this but I want Clara and the doctor to travel together forver in the happiest series ever and i dont want either of them to leave!!!

    • Anonymous

      May 8th, 2013 - 6:18pm

      If you really think the snowmen was and this episode was amazing and think they like some of the best episodes ever made, in my opinion (No Affense) but your not you truely dont have good taste when it comes to doctor who and your certainly not a true fan of doctor who.

    • Dalek The Supreme

      May 9th, 2013 - 3:40am

      I would like to see Matt Smith to stay for a long time, though my personal favorite out of this series is Asylum of the Daleks.

  • Captain Jack

    May 8th, 2013 - 9:59am

    Don’t bring kids into the TARDIS. This will kill the series. If I want to see that I’ll watch The Sara Janes Adventures.

    Crimson Horror, a really good episode.
    Odd series with every second episode being really good and then some really bad ones like “Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS” which must be one of the worst ones ever.
    This series has brought us some of the best episodes ever as “The Snowmen”, “Hide” and “The Crimson Horror” but the next one ought to be awful with the kids getting on the journey.

    And Clara… She must be the best companion ever. So clever and beautiful, I love her to bits(Sorry Rose). Outsmarts the Doctor (who needs a replacement soon, Please find an actor with David Tennants talent)


      May 8th, 2013 - 10:41am

      EXACTLY Captain Jack. I agree with all you said but I feel that Journey to the Centre of the Tardis was an extremely good ep as it showed off how brave Clara really is and how their bond is getting stronger than ever before. Of Course thats just my opinion and we are all allowed to observe things our own way

  • FanOfDrWho11

    May 7th, 2013 - 9:54pm

    G1 GALVATRON? What are you doing in Doctor Who?
    I guess thats as close as it is ever going to get to my 8-year-old self’s dream of a Dr Who/Transformers crossover, but I’m satisfied by that cameo appearance of the Decepticon leader.
    As always, Mark Gatiss has created a true masterpiece of a Dr Who episode (not sure if I’m counting VOTD in that)and another great addition to a great series (if I can forget about Rings of Akhaten!).
    Can’t wait until the next episode! New Cybermen look so cool!

    • Dalek The Supreme

      May 8th, 2013 - 4:11am

      I thought Victory of the Daleks was great. Also, there was an Optimus Prime in George’s bedroom in Night Terrors.


      May 8th, 2013 - 10:43am

      Yes FanOfDrWho11 I agree the rings of akarten was the worst ep ever. It was fake, short and had no storyline whatsoever. Whoever wrote that ep is a disgrace and it should be perm,anently off air. 🙂

    • MaxP

      May 8th, 2013 - 11:52pm

      The Transformers and Dr Who did cross over in the old British Marvel comics that came out once a week and were as big a newspaper. Pretty sure at least. The stories also featured the original Deaths Head character that always used to end his sentences with ‘yes’.

    • Professor When

      May 9th, 2013 - 7:40am

      The Doctor had a cameo in Transformers:
      The Doctor also battled with a Marvel Supervillain I think:'s_Head

  • random user

    May 7th, 2013 - 9:00pm

    after watching this i think there should be a spin-off with strax, vastra, and jenny

    • Anonymous

      May 8th, 2013 - 9:54pm

      That would be brilliant actually, there are no good current spin offs!
      Good idea.

  • thetardisisstronginthisone

    May 7th, 2013 - 6:27pm

    omg when strax went no to vastra after she said hae u been eating those sweets and when he had to wait on the horse strax quote ‘im going to play with my grenades’ oml so funny


    May 7th, 2013 - 10:31am

    Best episode of the second half of this series, but easily mark gatiss’ best after the unquiet dead. I wish all the episodes had this sort of consistency. One question though- Does the doctor bitch about his former companions to current companions or did he really think that much of tegan he starts using his catchphrase ‘brave heart’ to clara. Can,t think much of tegan.

  • JJ

    May 6th, 2013 - 12:09pm

    Good apart from when the alien was on her, that was just so weird and wrong.

  • TheDoctorGallifrey

    May 6th, 2013 - 9:18am

    If you think about it it was a bit weird how one of the crew was carrying a camera with them! And shouldn’t Clara be a cit more shocked when she saw her Victorian counterpart? Anyhow, it was a great episode, the characters were amazing, I felt so much sympathy for ada, and the plot was fantastic! I squirmed a bit when Ada smashed Mr. Sweet, I was surprised to see that the ‘monster’ was the Doctor, and I fell on the floor laughing when that man fainted the third time when the TARDIS dematerialised! I give it a 9/10

    • lepter

      May 7th, 2013 - 10:43pm

      not really. It may be a photo from something they havent done yet. Time machine…remember.


      May 8th, 2013 - 10:46am

      yeah totes 9/10

  • MaxP

    May 6th, 2013 - 6:18am

    I love the idea of Strax and Vastra, and I know this is episode was all supposed to be in a humourous spirit, but Strax was just so utterly painful to watch due to his stupid jokes, it was just cringe worthy. And I can’t help feeling embarrassed to be a fan with this sort of silliness. Ad

  • crumpetstick94

    May 5th, 2013 - 7:07pm

    whats going on with the cybermen in the next episode is somebody rescueing them because i like the cybus industry armour better…


      May 6th, 2013 - 8:33am

      Like ‘Victory of the Daleks’, the 2006 design is giving way to a new modern take on the Cybermen for a 2nd time in the history of the new series, cos the 2006 one is now regarded as being no longer scary, and many of us are finding them to be boring with the stomping around and saying “Delete” all the time, which was fun at first back in 2006, but has become boring over time.

      Plus the fact the Cybus logo got replaced on them in ‘The Wedding of River Song’ may have caused some confusion as to wither they are still the Cybus ones with a new seal on their chests or if they are our Mondasian Cybermen, which I’d rather regard that they are not as the parallel Cybermen are primitive compared to those of our universe.


      May 7th, 2013 - 10:22am

      The thing that put put me off the cbus industries cybermen was that hydraulic clumping noise everytime they moved.

  • TheDoctorGallifrey

    May 5th, 2013 - 4:05pm

    If you think about it it was a bit weird how one of the crew was carrying a camera with them! And shouldn’t Clara be a cit more shocked when she saw her Victorian counterpart? Anyhow, it was a great episode, the characters were amazing, I felt so much sympathy for ada, and the plot was fantastic! I squirmed a bit when Ada smashed Mr. Sweet, I was surprised to see that the ‘monster’ was the Doctor, and I fell on the floor laughing when that man fainted the third time when the TARDIS dematerialised! 9/10

  • whofan4ever

    May 5th, 2013 - 2:53pm

    I enjoyed that, why are people hating? The whole idea of vastra and jenny just accepting that clara is alive, or being another her… also i heard about the teaser stuff that SFX released and i think that the kids realise that this “commander clara” is infact another clara and the kids realise when they ask her a personal question


      May 8th, 2013 - 10:48am

      yes exactly y people hate they try their best on a smaller scaled budget 🙂

  • fishfingers and custard

    May 5th, 2013 - 2:15pm

    omg the kids found out about clara and the doctor i think clara shoiuld say (oops!!!)
    dose any 1 else think kids in next weeks episode is a wee bit weird im not to sure about that 1

    • Big D

      May 5th, 2013 - 10:08pm

      Get rid of the kids. Next thing we know it’ll be on the cbbc rather than bbc 1. I realise its a family show but that doesnt mean we have to pander to them. Doctor Who has never panded to kids, respected yes, but never panded. Also to have the kids blackmailing Clara means that they should be sacked off regardless. Ive said it before and I’ll say it again – I’m getting old!!

    • Radburn

      May 6th, 2013 - 10:40am

      Children blackmail Clara for a spin in the Tardis?

      Time to get out the Torchwood pills methinks!

    • Captain Jack

      May 8th, 2013 - 10:46am

      I do concur!
      Kids will tip the balance of the series from being cool to being a kids program.


      May 8th, 2013 - 10:51am

      xactly. I am 11 and lets say my room is more of a tardis than the real one and the kids will ruin the series entirely i want clara and the doctor to start dating or something drastic haha lolsies thatd be a dream come true

  • lepter

    May 5th, 2013 - 2:09pm

    Is it me or is clara getting abit smug?
    Liked it. Didnt get the point of the red dipping but will watch it again.

    Kids next week. Oh no….looking forward to cybermen….now not so excited. The episode was supposed to have been called the LAST CYBERMAN. Was hoping for a tenth planet version so close to the 50th but Its not..its a cybus. Damn.
    Liked the reference to tegan, winey american….. Brave heart clara.

    Sorry but I really DONT like the silurian red hand gang.
    Ruined 2 great dr who monsters. Watch SILURIANS, thats what they are supposed to look like. Not a sherlock holmes wanabee.

    • Anonymous

      May 5th, 2013 - 3:16pm

      Tegan was an Austrailian, not American.

      And what does everyone have angainst the Cybus Cybermen, there still Cybermen, they’re exactly the same, just from a different universe.

    • lepter

      May 6th, 2013 - 11:50pm

      good point….cybus were not alien like mondasian cybermen. They are not part of classic dr who, they are human new who monsters. They have little history, they are new.

    • MaxP

      May 7th, 2013 - 1:09am

      Clara is the best companion the show’s had in a long while. Best since Donna, or Martha even IMO. Better than Amelia and Rose, that’s for sure.

    • lepter

      May 7th, 2013 - 10:45pm

      donna was the best. depth of character, funny, good actress too.

  • fishfingers and custard

    May 5th, 2013 - 1:56pm

    omg lol
    mad mental strax the sontaron running about with a gun shooting every-thing he can see
    aww to funny lol lol

  • dalek eternal

    May 5th, 2013 - 1:48pm

    deinately the best episode this serious the scenes with straxx are the best couldnt stop laughing

    • fishfingers and custard

      May 5th, 2013 - 1:58pm

      aww i no he is to funny
      (rotfl) lol lol lol

  • CG

    May 5th, 2013 - 1:24pm

    I think the Doctor got a bit “excited” when Jenny stripped and started fighting judging by the sound effects and his sonic.

  • handbot10

    May 5th, 2013 - 1:18pm

    has to be my second favourite so far!

    cold war – 1st
    the crimson horror – 2nd
    journey to the centre of the tardis – 3rd

    these are my top 3 favourites.
    nightmare in silver looks promising.

    another excellent job by mark gatiss. I hope we see more eps written by him. cant wait till he returns in sherlok aswell!


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